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Spaghetti alla Carbonara

Seeking Carbonara recommendation for Brooklyn or Manhattan.
Thank you!

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  1. Lavagna by Ave. B has a great rigatoni in tomato cream sauce that I and others love.

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    1. re: addictedtolunch

      Addicted
      Sounds delicious but it's not really Carbonara. Sounds more like Rigatoni w/ Vodka or Rose/Blush Sauce.. :-)

      1. re: Tay

        No, it has sausage in the mix. Didn't bother to mention it. And it's really more a red taste than not (admittedly it's unique and tough to pin down). I have it when in a "carbonara" mood- good penne vodka though can be had almost anywhere now.

        1. re: addictedtolunch

          I suspect Tay said it's not carbonara because you mentioned tomato. Carbonara sauce includes eggs, cheese, cured pork, and sometimes cream, but never tomato. The closest thing to "red" in it is any pink in the meat of the pancetta or guanciale.

          To the O.P., I really like carbonara, but I try not to have it too often for my arteries' sake. I've had a decent more minimalist-style plate of it (very al dente, simple peppery sauce of eggs, cheese, pancetta) at Otto, and another decent, but very heavy, unctuous, creamy, somewhat Italian-Americanized and huge portion of it (if you like that kind of thing; I do!) at L&B's Spumoni Gardens. I enjoyed both, but neither was amazing.

          I also found this old post, which doesn't include that many recommendations within the city:
          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/257943

          And this one, which seems to confirm chrisbob's rec for Crispo:
          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/557633

          Good luck on your search!

          1. re: hhhippo

            hhhippo
            "I suspect Tay said it's not carbonara because you mentioned tomato. Carbonara sauce includes eggs, cheese, cured pork, and sometimes cream, but never tomato. The closest thing to "red" in it is any pink in the meat of the pancetta or guanciale"

            Yup.. I've had Carbonare prepared with bacon, pancetta, and a few other pork variations but never, ever tomato of any kind.

    2. Frost has some of the best "red sauce" Italian food around. I've never had their Carbonara, but I would guess that it would be quite good.

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      Frost
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        1. Indeed I am seeing a traditional Carbonara. Thank you for the responses, but Tay had it right....no red sauce. I forgot about Crispo. Thank you and if anyone can make a Brooklyn reference (I'm wondering if Bayridge might have a place that has a great Carbonara), I would be utterly excited.

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          1. re: bklynkat

            L&B's Spumoni Gardens, which I mentioned before as the place where you can get the hearty, heavy, creamy version of the dish, is in Gravesend, Brooklyn (right near Bensonhurst).

            bobjbkln mentioned Frost, which is a very well-regarded old-school Italian place in Williamsburg. I think he probably characterized it as a "red sauce" joint meaning "old-fashioned, Italian-American style" where you can get familiar classics (including real carbonara) as opposed to the kind of trendier restaurant that specializes in the cuisine of, say, one northern Italian province.

            This old post is all about so-called "red sauce" places, and it might yield some more good Brooklyn suggestions: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/479194

            Has anyone tried the carbonara at Gargiulo's in Coney Island?

            1. re: hhhippo

              "Has anyone tried the carbonara at Gargiulo's in Coney Island?"

              I've had it there and at New Corner (MY go to 'Red sauce' place). If I recall correctly, they were both decent but too creamy znd did not impart enough bacon/pancetta flavor.
              I know there used to be a great version served somewhere on Arthur Ave but I cannot recall the place.

              1. re: Tay

                Thanks. Good to know. I don't mind the addition of cream (which seems to be pretty standard in this country), but I agree that too much can overwhelm the great salty-smoky-peppery flavor of an ideal version.

                1. re: Tay

                  I recall really liking the Carbonara at Mario's (Arthur Ave.), but that was many years ago. Perhaps that is the place you remember.

                  1. re: bobjbkln

                    bob
                    "I recall really liking the Carbonara at Mario's (Arthur Ave.), "

                    It was not someone's first name but I think it may be someone's last name.
                    . I'll have to ask family/friends and post again.
                    "

            2. I love the Crispo version, which was mentioned in another post. I also really like Lupa for spaghetti carbonara.

              I don't recall if Fragole has it on the menu but if they do, I would guess they would make a great version - I have had quite a few of their pastas and they are all really well made.

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              1. re: pellegrino31

                Although I'm not terribly far from Fragole and love pasta beyond all reasoning, for some reason I've never been there. But I do have a birthday coming up, so that might be a good excuse! Any particular pasta recommendations?

                1. re: bklynite

                  I think Fragole is great for straightforward, homestyle Italian. I love the bolognese and the short rib ragu, and the lasagne is excellent. I had a taste of the pasta with mushrooms and cream sauce once and that was also really good.

                  1. re: pellegrino31

                    Thanks for the recs! Turns out we've got use of a friend's backyard grill, so are going to have a Meat-on-Open-Flame-Fest for this particular birthday. But I'm sure I'll get to Fragole one of these days!

                    1. re: bklynite

                      How on earth did you go from Spag carbonara to a 'meat fest'.?... Wait.... Never mind,

                      1. re: Tay

                        A rare chance to use a friend's backyard grill came and we couldn't pass it up!

                2. re: pellegrino31

                  One more thumbs up for Crispo (we make ours at home almost exactly like theirs as we enjoy it so much).

                  Lunetta has had a solid carbonara (without the intolerable addition of cream that some people botch it up with). I was pretty disappointed that Queen puts cream in theirs so decided not to order it there.

                  I believe I had a good carbonara at Po on Smith.

                  All that said, it's really quite a straightforward dish to make yourself, just takes a little practice dealing with the eggs so they don't scramble (the secret is tempering the eggs).

                  1. re: Nehna

                    Oh! I forgot about Lunetta on Smith! The do have carbonara!
                    Thank you. Po doesn't serve carbonara...unless it's a special or something

                    1. re: bklynkat

                      hmmm I swear I had it there....maybe they stopped serving it, havent been in quite a while.