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blkery Aug 25, 2009 09:07 PM

Until today, I was the only one I know who likes figs. I'm mad about figs. Specifically, Adriatic figs. Today I shared one with a fig hater and instantly converted them. It made me wonder what varieties of a food are the acme of its type, or at least, the most powerful to nonbelievers. This is not a thread about you haven't had pizza until you've been to Di Fara - I'd like to keep it outside the restaurants. I'd rather it be you haven't had salmon until you've had fresh chinook, but I'm fine with shelved and branded products that involve more production work as well - you haven't had goat cheese until you have ash-rolled goat cheese, you haven't had a TV dinner until you have Stouffers, whatever.

Anyways, I'm interested to hear what you consider the creme de la creme of your favorite foods that everyone else is missing out on.

I'll start with Adriatic figs, Hendrick's gin, Dark Prince tomatoes, Marcona almonds.

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  1. sebetti RE: blkery Aug 26, 2009 12:33 PM

    I was pretty indifferent to both cherries and raspberries until I moved to the NW.
    My first Bing 3 hours from a tree in Eastern Washington was an epiphany.

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      maestra RE: sebetti Aug 26, 2009 01:19 PM

      Oh, how I miss WA cherries and berries! Commercial raspberries aren't even worth my money; CA strawberries are passable but never as good. I hope you live in an area with U-pick options.

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      gordeaux RE: blkery Aug 26, 2009 12:50 PM

      Mango : Alphonso
      Blueberry : wild (Michigan or Vermont)
      Smoked Whole Chicken : Mine
      Pear : Yali
      Apple : Honeycrisp

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        Bob W RE: gordeaux Mar 30, 2010 05:19 PM

        The best wild blueberries come from Maine!

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          buttertart RE: Bob W Mar 31, 2010 06:40 AM

          Or northern Ontario.

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        Avalondaughter RE: blkery Aug 26, 2009 02:32 PM

        Yukon Gold potoates.

        My whole life my family never tried to serve me anything but russets, or the occasional red new potato. I hated them. Yukon golds have a much nicer texture and sweeter, more delicate flavor. I'll happily eat them.

        1. soypower RE: blkery Aug 26, 2009 05:09 PM

          I wish everyone could try the concord grapes that grow in my aunt's backyard. And the italian plums that grow there too. But alas, I'll have to eat them for you.

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            CookieWeasel RE: soypower Aug 26, 2009 06:07 PM

            I never cared for grapes until the day I tasted some purple ones from the vine in a friend's backyard. OMG-- it was another fruit altogether! Night and day! I don't think I've ever tasted anything so delicious!

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              BamiaWruz RE: CookieWeasel Aug 28, 2009 05:50 AM

              Same here, when I was younger we rented a house that had grape vines growing all over it and there was so much grapes that we ran out of ideas and would just pick and eat them all day long. They were big and green (not round though) and seedless, yumm!

              They were perfect but I don't know the name, it was in the middle east.

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            MrsT RE: blkery Aug 26, 2009 07:16 PM

            Rice pudding until you've tasted my grandma's! She got the recipe off of a Minute Rice box over 55 years ago. She gave my aunt the recipe, but it doesn't come out quite right. My aunt gave me the recipe, but I still can't get it the right consistency. Maybe one day...

            ...on the other hand you haven't had a cannoli like my Aunt's cannoli.

            1. buttertart RE: blkery Aug 28, 2009 09:42 AM

              Peach until you've had a Red Haven from southwestern Ontario.

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                BeefeaterRocks RE: buttertart Aug 28, 2009 02:15 PM

                I was going to say: Until you had a Sierra Lady from the Medford, OR

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                  jmnewel RE: BeefeaterRocks Sep 6, 2009 02:17 PM

                  And I was going to say until you've had an Elberta from Fresno, CA and environs.

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                    buttertart RE: jmnewel Sep 7, 2009 08:29 AM

                    They grow those in Ontario too. Also in NY state - I have a bunch of them in the kitchen right now, have to hang your head over the sink to eat them. Oh peaches.

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                  Bob W RE: buttertart Mar 30, 2010 05:20 PM

                  ...until you've had any of the peaches grown at Moutoux Orchard in Loudoun County, VA.

                3. mrbigshotno.1 RE: blkery Aug 28, 2009 10:07 AM

                  Beef tamales in Tucson at Christmastime (and they have to have an olive)!

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                    EWSflash RE: mrbigshotno.1 Sep 7, 2009 10:50 AM

                    Or two or three olives, green, of course. :-)

                    Whole fresh beets wrapped in foil and thrown on the grill, slipped out of their skins and diced and buttered. I served these to some friends, and he went on and on. A while later my friend said "He's been talking about those damn beets for a week now!" They do have to be 'in season' or they might be woody or flavorless.

                    A really ripe fig right off the tree

                    A turnip right out of the ground, peeled with a pocketknife and eaten. So sweet...

                  2. tracylee RE: blkery Aug 28, 2009 02:51 PM

                    For me, I didn't like olives until my Sister brought home a bottle of kalamatas. I still don't eat green olives, though.

                    1. ArizonaDave RE: blkery Aug 28, 2009 03:35 PM

                      ...a strawberry until you've had a wild strawberry.

                      Back in the mid 80's, I was camping somewhere in New Mexico.
                      I went off for a short hike by myself and crested a hill and went down into a small pasture/valley. I didn't notice them at first, but once I realized what ALL of the small plants were that covered literally the whole valley, I thought I was in a Beatles song. I plopped my butt down and started eating. They were small, about the size of your thumbnail and I have never tasted anything like it before or since.
                      I didn't even know they grew in NM.
                      I sure wish I knew where that valley was...


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                        kattyeyes RE: ArizonaDave Aug 29, 2009 11:35 AM

                        They sound like alpine strawberries--we grew some for the first time this summer. Did they almost have a floral taste to them and look like fat little Christmas tree lights? :)

                        And to continue the list of you haven't had a !...
                        GRAPEFRUIT until you've had a RUBY RED GRAPEFRUI!!

                        Ruby reds are so sweet and yummy, unlike regular grapefruit that I just don't like whatsoever. I still remember being offered a glass of grapefruit juice when I was a little kid. I hadn't had it before, but knew grape juice, so thought grapefruit juice would be just as tasty. Imagine anticipating the sweetness of grapes and getting regular grapefruit! ACK!

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                          Caitlin McGrath RE: kattyeyes Aug 29, 2009 03:54 PM

                          Concur on the ruby reds. My mother the grapefruit fanatic (whose morning addiction has been sadly sidelined by taking a statin) always insisted Texas ruby reds were the best.

                          And speaking of her, you haven't had applesauce until you've had my mother's home-canned, unsweetened Gravenstein applesauce, with its buttery-rich flavor. I know buttery and rich are odd descriptors for applesauce, but I can't think of a better way to describe it. The flavor is consistently deeper than any other I've had.

                          Hmm, it's Gravenstein season now; I might have to see about poaching a few jars...

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                            kattyeyes RE: Caitlin McGrath Aug 30, 2009 07:39 AM

                            You've sold me. I wish I could try some!

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                              cavandre RE: Caitlin McGrath Sep 1, 2009 04:05 AM

                              Have to disagree...you haven't had a Ruby Red until you've had one from FL's Indian River area.

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                                bayoucook RE: cavandre Sep 7, 2009 03:31 AM

                                Second that - those are my favorites!

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                              cycloneillini RE: kattyeyes Aug 30, 2009 04:32 PM

                              I never liked grapefruit until I moved to Texas and discovered Ruby Reds. I thought maybe it was just that I finally learned to like grapefruit, until I tried a regular grapefruit again. I second kattyeyes' ACK!

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                                c oliver RE: kattyeyes Sep 6, 2009 08:20 PM

                                I'm not sure I've had anything BUT Ruby Red sin decades. I wonder if they come from CA?

                              2. re: ArizonaDave
                                buttertart RE: ArizonaDave Aug 30, 2009 07:15 AM

                                Wild strawberries are heaven indeed.

                              3. Jen76 RE: blkery Aug 28, 2009 08:50 PM

                                You haven't had a date until you've had a Black Sphinx date.

                                As far as I know, they only exist here in Phoenix. I buy them from a lady that lives in the last orchard of Black Sphinx trees. They have a very thin, black skin that is almost crispy in texture and when you bite into one, it's like a little explosion of honey in your mouth. They are exquisite.

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                                  majordanby RE: Jen76 Aug 29, 2009 06:36 PM

                                  i'm a big date fan and my parents live in Surprise. Next time i am down there, i'll definitely look for them. are they seasonal?

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                                    Jen76 RE: majordanby Aug 29, 2009 07:06 PM

                                    Very. I believe it was late fall when I bought the last batch. As far as I know, you can only buy them direct from a woman that lives in the date orchard in Arcadia, although I think I saw a few pounds at the citrus shop I go to in Phoenix (around 32nd St. / Baseline Rd - Summer's Fruit Barn or something like that). I believe the woman sells them at the downtown Phx farmer's market on Saturdays.

                                    And I was NEVER a date fan. All I had experienced as a child in Wisconsin were those hard, dried date chunks that my grandmother would buy to make Christmas cookies. Yuk. These completely converted me, and now I enjoy Medjools and honey dates as well. Black Sphinx will always be my favorite though.

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                                    Scriever RE: Jen76 Aug 30, 2009 03:23 PM

                                    Oo. Time to travel.

                                    More generally -- you haven't had a date until you've had a spiced date.

                                    I like to combine the juice of one lemon with a tablespoon of dark brown sugar, ground grains of paradise, cardamom, cumin, & cloves in a pan over medium-low heat. Once the sugar's dissolved and the mixture's steaming, toss in maybe a dozen-plus halved & pitted dried Medjool dates (the best I've found out east) cut-side down over low heat. They turn tender pretty quickly; once they're hot and tender transfer everything to a shallow bowl to continue to stew off heat.

                                    Great fresh off the stove and almost as good as drained & chilled leftovers. (Also tasty: let them stew overlong until mushy then puree, chill, and add as a swirl in homemade ice cream.)

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                                      Jen76 RE: Scriever Aug 30, 2009 06:27 PM

                                      I have a recipe in a Mediterranean cookbook for orange-date salad. As soon as the oranges come in later in the year (tangelos are my favorite), I plan to make this for lunches. By the way, I keep my dates in the freezer. They don't really freeze hard. They are great cold, sweet snacks in the hot desert summers!

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                                        tatamagouche RE: Scriever Sep 7, 2009 06:53 PM

                                        Medjools, plain, are what I was going to say.

                                        You haven't had limoncello until you've had it homemade in Sicily. Does that count?

                                    2. Scriever RE: blkery Aug 30, 2009 09:33 AM

                                      Cara Cara navels took the boredom out of oranges, for me. They're a low-acidity winter variety with pink flesh and a surprisingly floral, sweet taste that makes them incredibly addictive.

                                      I'd never heard of them until a small batch turned up at a market in Southern Maryland last winter. When I asked about them the greengrocer just smiled, pulled out a pocketknife and sliced one open for me. I tasted one wedge and was hooked. They were hard to find for resupply, but I bought them up whenever I could. Can't wait for the cold months this year.

                                      1. KaimukiMan RE: blkery Aug 30, 2009 09:39 AM

                                        virtually any fruit or vegetable fresh off the vine, tree, bush, or out of the ground. Just like fish, the fewer minutes between harvest and consumption the more amazing the difference. as good as farmer's market produce may be, it is still not the same as something that came out of your own back yard 10 minutes ago.

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                                          buttertart RE: KaimukiMan Aug 31, 2009 05:51 AM

                                          True indeed - case in point: a potato straight out of the ground, into the house, washed, and boiled in salted water is a treat fit for a king. This is one of my fondest childhood memories (had a cousin who had the most beautiful veg and fruit garden, with raspberries the size of the tip of your tongue. All of her produce fell into the you haven't had a... category).

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                                            dfrostnh RE: KaimukiMan Sep 1, 2009 04:19 AM

                                            Apple season is starting here in NH and I'm looking forward to the Ginger Golds etc. It's been a long, cold and wet summer here so blueberries are incredible but tomatoes are blighted and my peppers haven't colored up yet. I can hardly wait for them to get red. I'm growing some heirloom varieties and THIS year I will take better notes as to which ones we liked best. I get plants from a grower who will sell them as individual plants. And some day I might learn to make good pie crust like my MIL's.

                                          2. mcel215 RE: blkery Aug 30, 2009 04:36 PM

                                            You haven't had a lobster, until you have had a hard shelled lobster from Maine. And luckily for me, it's only an hour's drive away.

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                                              pacheeseguy RE: mcel215 Aug 31, 2009 07:34 AM

                                              Wild Boar bacon

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                                                Cinnamon RE: mcel215 Sep 6, 2009 09:24 PM

                                                2nd the first part of that

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                                                cavandre RE: blkery Sep 1, 2009 04:07 AM

                                                You haven't had shrimp until you've tried some of FL's rock shrimp. When properly broiled, they have an almost lobster like taste & texture.

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                                                  bayoucook RE: cavandre Sep 7, 2009 03:32 AM

                                                  Or Alabama's Royal Reds! Same taste and texture. Deep-water shrimp.

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                                                    EWSflash RE: cavandre Sep 7, 2009 10:53 AM

                                                    you got THAT right. I fell in love with broiled rock shrimp in FL.

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                                                    Panini Guy RE: blkery Sep 1, 2009 10:21 AM

                                                    A bit more complicated, but coffee, until you've had a cup brewed with beans less than six months old from a direct trade project by one of the big three (Stumptown, Intelligentsia, Counter Culture or other up-and-comers following their lead) and roasted only to medium light.

                                                    It's a shame more people don't think of coffee as a perishable crop. A great coffee has more complexity than the best wines, and you wouldn't even consider drinking it super heated or adding milk to be able to enjoy it.

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                                                      soypower RE: Panini Guy Sep 1, 2009 12:57 PM

                                                      Totally agree on this...My friend started a micro-roastery and had me over for a coffee-tasting. I've never been able to drink coffee black, but after I tasted the stuff he was roasting, I'm completely hooked.

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                                                        Vetter RE: Panini Guy Mar 30, 2010 08:10 PM

                                                        Yes, yes, YES! I moved to Portland a tea drinker; I had Stumptown; I left Portland a coffee drinker with a serious habit. Now I roast my own. Beautifully, lightly roasted coffee changed my life.

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                                                        DC in DC RE: blkery Sep 1, 2009 01:40 PM

                                                        Bacon ... Benton's
                                                        Mango... champagne
                                                        Tamale... homemade one from the anonymous lady who sells them in Johnny's Cash Store in Santa Fe, NM

                                                        1. JerryMe RE: blkery Sep 6, 2009 01:48 PM

                                                          Well, this is going to sound truly ignorant but I remember the first time I had fresh pineapple - compared to only having canned previously - wow! I had to stop and pause!

                                                          I'll keep canned in the house for the odd what not recipe but I actively search out fresh when I can.

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                                                            kattyeyes RE: JerryMe Sep 6, 2009 07:59 PM

                                                            Fresh pineapple is fantastic. Now, have you ever had it tempura-battered and deep-fried? Check out this photo. Yummmmm!

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                                                            HillJ RE: blkery Sep 6, 2009 03:45 PM

                                                            A macoun apple picked right off the tree...to enjoy with a jar of TJ's peanut butter tucked in the glove compartment for the journey home.

                                                            Macoun season is now!

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                                                              Cinnamon RE: blkery Sep 6, 2009 09:27 PM

                                                              Avocados till you've had California ones instead of Florida.

                                                              Peaches till you've had an in-season ripe white peach.

                                                              Grapefruit till you've had a Ruby Red.

                                                              Broccoli until you've tried broccoli rabe!

                                                              Good small watermelon till you've had a Dulcinea

                                                              Peanuts till you've had fresh ones (like from Virginia) roasted

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                                                                Caitlin McGrath RE: Cinnamon Sep 6, 2009 09:52 PM

                                                                I don't love white peaches. Too me, they taste like lots of sugar, and much less peach flavor than many other varieties.

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                                                                  BamiaWruz RE: Caitlin McGrath Sep 6, 2009 09:54 PM

                                                                  Same here.

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                                                                    bayoucook RE: BamiaWruz Sep 7, 2009 03:35 AM

                                                                    Same here. My friend raved about them and gave me one. Much prefer the regular, drip down your chin southern peaches. And sweet Vadalia onions.
                                                                    Hass avocadoes.

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                                                                      EWSflash RE: bayoucook Sep 7, 2009 10:56 AM

                                                                      Ditto that with the peaches. The goldener the better. Also Vidalias and Hass avocados.

                                                                      Oh- Mexican avocados. The best guacamole I've ever had (or made) was made with fresh limes and little Mexican avocados from a Puerto Penasco market. The four of us agreed that it couldn't get any better than that, and so far it hasn't.

                                                                      EDIT- also limes, little Mexican limes that turn yellow and you pick just as they fall off the tree. There's nothing better than those!

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                                                                    Cinnamon RE: Caitlin McGrath Sep 7, 2009 10:15 AM

                                                                    I love good Southern peaches, and I would've said I didn't really like white peaches till the batch I tasted this year. It doesn't need to be the only peach one eats, but it's a wonderful variation when you get them in season and a good one (in my opinion).

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                                                                      c oliver RE: Cinnamon Sep 7, 2009 01:37 PM

                                                                      I grew up in Atlanta, the Peach State, but when I moved to CA 30 years ago, I discovered that I preferred CA peaches. They were bigger, sweeter and much juicier - IMO :)

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                                                                        Bob W RE: Cinnamon Mar 30, 2010 05:23 PM

                                                                        I was not a big white peach either, but Moutoux Orchards' (Loudoun County VA) finally won me over. Yellow are still my favorite, but I'm down with good white peaches too.

                                                                  3. Bob W RE: blkery Mar 31, 2010 07:19 AM


                                                                    I second Marcona almonds and Macoun apples!

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                                                                      piccola RE: blkery Mar 31, 2010 04:45 PM

                                                                      Squash until you've had a kabocha.
                                                                      Tofu until you've had it fresh.
                                                                      Yogurt until you've had Fage or Liberté.

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