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  <id>647406</id>
  <title>Momofuku wedding cakes??</title>
  <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:08:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>28</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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        <id>4976343</id>
        <content>http://www.momofuku.com/milkbar/weddingcakes.asp

I'm a David Chang fan, but I find this bordering on the offensive.  $350 for a "we don't do fondant or frosting" wedding cake??  That thing looks like something a 10 year old could slap together in 5 minutes!

Seriously... what are they thinking? </content>
        <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:08:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
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          <name>jrhsfcm</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4976409</id>
      <content>well, according to the Bridal Association of America, the average cost of a wedding cake in 2006 was $543...and there's a good chance it's gone up in the past few years. what are they thinking? David Chang is one of the current darlings of the culinary world, and people who can still afford to pay a premium in this economy will likely fork it over it just to say that Momofuku did their wedding cake.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:24:04 -0700 2009</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>103920</id>
        <name>goodhealthgourmet</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4976459</id>
      <content>There's a reason why wedding cakes averaged $543 in 2006 -- they take a ridiculous amount of time and effort to make.  Fondant, frosting, sugar work... it's all very labor intensive and takes a great deal of skill.  What Momofuku is plopping out -- David Chang, culinary "darling" or not -- is pretty disgraceful looking and in no way is worth the price of admission.  There is so much debate about "is it worth the $XX" when it comes to celebrated chef offerings -- this very much appears to be, without question, one of those moments to scream a resounding "no."   </content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:33:28 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976409</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>59644</id>
        <name>jrhsfcm</name>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4976496</id>
      <content>i never said i *agreed* with it. i was merely suggesting that it might be their reasoning.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:39:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976459</parent_id>
      <user>
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        <name>goodhealthgourmet</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4976494</id>
      <content>I love Milk Bar but it *is* overpriced so it's not a surprise. Also depends on how many people it could serve -- Two Little Red Hens' wedding cake is $8/slice, so it would serve a little over 40 people at the same price (and they don't do fondant either.) I can see the cake fitting into a rustic sort of wedding.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:39:09 -0700 2009</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>241434</id>
        <name>uwsister</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4976952</id>
      <content>The website says it has 60 servings not including the keepsake top layer, so I'm guessing it's a bit larger than it appears on screen.  I got married earlier this year, and I can affirm that $350 is a bargain compared to a lot of what's out there - fondant or no - especially in New York.

This is totally a personal preference thing, but I'd probably prefer this to spending twice as much for something that doesn't taste as good but is beautifully decorated.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 13:42:13 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976494</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25168</id>
        <name>cjd260</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4977307</id>
      <content>If it's 60 servings w/o the top layer I agree that it's a bargain for a wedding cake!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 15:29:17 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976952</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>241434</id>
        <name>uwsister</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4976534</id>
      <content>Maybe it's some type of fabulous tasting cake? I wouldn't pay $350 for that!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 11:48:53 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>217807</id>
        <name>cheesecake17</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4976877</id>
      <content>I was about to say i would pay for it,(I love MB!! even though I've only tried 2 items - I stuill feel I love it!!) but then I really looked closely at the picture and - wow the thing looks REALLY small for $350</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 13:17:19 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976534</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174753</id>
        <name>NellyNel</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4976906</id>
      <content>Agreed...Looks really small (and REALLY ugly).

www.thelunchbelle.com</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 13:26:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110996</id>
        <name>LeahBaila</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4978664</id>
      <content>It is one of the most hedious cakes i've ever seen. period</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 26 05:48:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976906</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>93566</id>
        <name>kelea</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4977339</id>
      <content>OMG... charge an extra $25 and frost why don't ya!  Or at least cut the layers straight.
That is not a pretty cake though I'm sure it tastes delicious.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 15:39:59 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>149592</id>
        <name>iluvcookies</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4977373</id>
      <content>Fondant sucks, as do 99% of wedding cakes.  But then again, if you are at a wedding, you are most likely drunk, so either you are drinking jim beam in lieu of cake or can barely taste anything, so who cares what the cake tastes like.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 25 15:49:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12821</id>
        <name>ESNY</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4978623</id>
      <content>Honestly, why wouldyou want your wedding cake from Momofuku Milk Bar?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 26 05:25:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76968</id>
        <name>steakrules85</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4978666</id>
      <content>If it tastes as good as the candy bar pie - I'd def have it!!

And for the record, I don't think it's that ugly</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 26 05:51:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4978623</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174753</id>
        <name>NellyNel</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4982894</id>
      <content>Wow, while this isn't the ugliest photo of a wedding cake that that I've seen, it's one of the priciest. My friend who bakes on the side could do a better frosting job. It doesn't even look uniform or even. Unfortunately, I feel like the food presentation at Milk Bar overall is on the 10 yr old level.

see here for more cake disasters and laughs: http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 27 10:22:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>41798</id>
        <name>windycity</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4984093</id>
      <content>Really? If it serves 60 people it works out to be a little over $5/slice. That's cheaper than most wedding cake designers and bakeries, especially in Manhattan, who do them -- I can only think of a couple off of my head. Two Little Red Hens' wedding cake is $8/slice for example.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 27 16:39:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4982894</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>241434</id>
        <name>uwsister</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4984371</id>
      <content>&lt;My friend who bakes on the side could do a better frosting job.&gt;

The Momofuku cake is unfrosted.  Says so right in the description.  And I hate to say it, but $350 for a cake that serves 60 is not expensive at all.  I think Sylvia Weinstock charges $15+/slice.  But for that, you do get an awful lot of frosting.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 27 18:25:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4982894</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13722</id>
        <name>small h</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4984834</id>
      <content>Part of the reason for using frosting/fondant/icing is to keep the cake moist. That thing is going to go stale and crusty in a few hours unless they've added something else to the batter. 
Personally, I don't like eating fondant, and understand the reasons for not using it; but, an unfrosted cake just looks sort of stupid. I think the wedding guests would think it was a joke too. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 27 23:57:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16693</id>
        <name>streamwise</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4985774</id>
      <content>I don't like fondant either - my cake was buttercream. But honestly, if you are in the marketing business, why would you present an unfrosted cake as the only representation of what you can do for weddings? It's not like they have other photos on there. (Even if it's designed to be a good tasting versus good looking cake.)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 09:31:30 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4984834</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>41798</id>
        <name>windycity</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4986349</id>
      <content>I'm surprised at all the fuss over the no frosting bit - I really like the way that cake looks. I think it has a rustic elegance to it...
and it looks like 2 different creams or fillings - and Milk Bars stuff is soooo rich - it probably doesnt need any frosting. I bet it tastes delicious</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 11:55:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4985774</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174753</id>
        <name>NellyNel</name>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>4986428</id>
      <content>I have to agree.  I've had lots of wedding cakes in my day, most of which were pretty but many of which looked like each other, and I frankly doubt many tasted as good as I bet this does, based on past trips to Milk Bar.  It's not the traditional white-fondant-with-stripes (or lace or ribbon) capital-w Wedding Cake, which frankly makes me like it more.  I don't think this is intended for a traditional SITC-esque wedding, but it would certainly have worked for mine.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 12:20:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4986349</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25168</id>
        <name>cjd260</name>
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      <level>5</level>
      <id>4986834</id>
      <content>yes mine too!!

steak - i admit i havent tried any of their cakes but it still looks darn good to me</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 14:29:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4986428</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174753</id>
        <name>NellyNel</name>
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      <level>4</level>
      <id>4986438</id>
      <content>I don't think many people would really want it for their wedding cake anyway. They are taking shortcuts by not icing the cakes. In my opinion, the best things at Momofuku Milk Bar are the crack pie and the cookies anyway. Their cakes (except for the banana which is delicious) aren't really anything special.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 12:22:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4986349</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76968</id>
        <name>steakrules85</name>
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      <level>5</level>
      <id>4987467</id>
      <content>That cake is hideous as a wedding cake.  I dont care how wonderful it might taste, wedding cakes are generally supposed to be a beautiful presentation and not some big gourmet food moment.. 
How often have you gone to a restaurant and saw "wedding cake" on the dessert menu? Like, never?
Its not the cost at all~its perfectly reasonable for a wedding cake. Its just BFU.
If you want a wedding cake that tastes amazing(and maybe this one does that is not at all the question) you make a bunch of small cakes and present them on a tiered stand. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 19:02:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4986438</parent_id>
      <user>
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        <name>gabriellemimi</name>
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    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4987895</id>
      <content>&gt;How often have you gone to a restaurant and saw "wedding cake" on the dessert menu?

Maybe because "wedding cake" is not a certain type of cake?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 29 00:31:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4987467</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>241434</id>
        <name>uwsister</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4987539</id>
      <content>I can't believe people are bashing a cake they've never tasted.  Knowing Chang and his pastry chef, it's probably scrumptious.  I think it's cool looking.  Sort of an irreverent anti-wedding cake.  I could see it being served at a hip, artsy Manhattan wedding where the bride and groom are doing sort of a personalized, non-traditional, somewhat rebellious motif.  If that were the plan, this cake would actually be a bargain.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 19:40:19 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16901</id>
        <name>billyeats</name>
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    </post>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4989197</id>
      <content>It's a sad looking cake.

Can anyone tell me what the "crack pie" is that is offered as a wedding takeaway?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 29 16:56:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4976343</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>255962</id>
        <name>camellily</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4989334</id>
      <content>the cake looks naked...unfinished

probably dries out quickly</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 29 18:17:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4989197</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>66726</id>
        <name>pbjluver</name>
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