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iamam Aug 25, 2009 08:30 AM

A have a guest in town from Sao Paolo. He has been in town many times before and always disappointed with the restaurants. He wanted good pizza so I took him to Terroni and he felt it wasn't as good as the worst delivery pizza he can get in Sao Paolo. I have taken him to Chiado and he liked that but I want to take him somewhere different.

I have to take him out Wednesday for dinner, he asked for anything but Italian or Steakhouse, as he can eat that in Sao Paolo.

I was thinking of Nota Bene or Black Hoof.

Any ideas on something that does Toronto proud?

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  1. jlunar Aug 25, 2009 08:34 AM

    I think The Hoof is your best bet, but I think it's closed for another few weeks yet... please do check though. I'm going on twitter posts and other bits of info floating around.

    Nota Bene is good, Splendido is good.

    JKWB maybe? Local foodstuffs would make it so he wouldn't likely have it in Sao Paolo... I think!

    Take him (and 8 others) for a full Chinese banquet. Casa Imperial is nice. Expensive, but nice. Or Lai Wah Heen. Even more $$$

    Take him for Korean food. I love Korean cold noodle! If you're up north, I rec. Cho Sun Ok. Avoid Korean places in general if you both don't like spicy though. While they have non-spicy options, it's like Jap Chae and Kalbi and Mandu and then you're tapped.

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      Bigtigger Aug 25, 2009 08:35 AM

      How about Torito, North 44 or La Palette ?

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        iamam Aug 25, 2009 11:38 AM

        I looked at the Torito menu and that is probably something he would like

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        cynmill Aug 25, 2009 08:36 AM

        Ever been to Amuse Bouche on Tecumseth?

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          iamam Aug 25, 2009 11:39 AM

          Haven't tried but the menu looks good. Looks like it focuses on local ingredients

        2. mainja Aug 25, 2009 10:35 AM

          Does it need to be fancy, or just tasty?

          What about a really good roti? There are, of course, many debates on this board about where to get the best one is, but it maybe the kind of thing he wouldn't get in Sao Paolo. My favourite in town has always been Island Foods.

          Or, what about Indian? Again, debates rage over the best one to choose from, a search of the board will tell you about options close to where you want to be I'm sure. I generally like to wander through little India and take my chances mostly.

          Sushi perhaps? Omi on Carlton is a nice place to bring someone, and it would fit into the 'slightly fancy' category, unlike the other two suggestions I've made.

          1. foodyDudey Aug 25, 2009 10:50 AM

            How about some place on Danforth Ave?

            Here are a few of many options in no particular order, but generally starting near Broadview and moving east:

            - Mambo Lounge
            - Globe Bistro
            - Pantheon
            - Lolita's Lust
            - Ouzeri
            - Djerba La Douce (Tunisian, about 2 km's east of Pape) http://djerba-la-douce.ca/

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              Pincus Aug 25, 2009 11:08 AM

              You can blow the bank account and go to Kaji.

              1. aser Aug 25, 2009 11:35 AM

                I'd say pass on Japanese as there is a big Japanese expat population in Brazil.

                Would concur w/ jlunar and go w/ Chinese, there's no way he can experience this level of quality in S.P..

                LWH for downtown, and if willing to travel uptown, your options are limitless.

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                  dubchild Aug 25, 2009 11:57 AM

                  I'm not surprised he was disappointed with the restaurants, we just don't use the quantity of salt, Paolistas are accostumed to. I found the pizza in Sao Paolo to be bad. The cheese there is the overly processed variety, but the locals loved it and thought their cheese was better than what we get.
                  The one thing he will understand is meat. I think the Black Hoof is your best bet.
                  Also show him a pepper mill. I was surprised how pepper was something, the Paolistas I met, had never seen.

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                    The Macallan 18 Aug 25, 2009 05:09 PM

                    The Hoof is closed for summer vacation...re-opening in September sometime. I would take him to Lee or Blowfish.

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                      tjr Aug 26, 2009 08:02 AM

                      Definitely avoid Blowfish (it isn't even good for Toronto, and Brazil has a large Japanese community, and is right next to the ocean).

                      Take him to LWH or for Chinese uptown at some of the recent recommendations. Splendido could be a good bet too! Nota Bene isn't a gauntlet-toss-response restaurant; if the person really is that picky, I doubt they'd be impressed there.

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                    iamam Aug 27, 2009 08:27 AM

                    Thanks for all of your suggestions.

                    He wanted tapas so we ended up at Torito.

                    Food was very good, we had:

                    Bread,fresh cheese and fiesta
                    Beets,black lentils,goat cheese and frisse salad w/ red wine vinaigrette
                    Jamon Serrano w/ figs
                    Piquillo peppers stuffed w/ salted cod and tapanade sauce
                    Andalusian spinach and chickpeas stew
                    Merguez
                    Crab croquettes w/parsley aioli
                    Shrimps al ajillo
                    Roasted quail , pomegranate glaze and sweet squash
                    Braised beef tongue and cheek
                    Grilled flatiron steak , gallega chips and fried egg

                    I really enjoyed the Grilled flatiron steak and the Piquillo peppers (but everything was good.

                    His only complaints were about the service (that it was not "world class", or as to the same stantard as Sao Paolo) and that it was cold to be sitting on the patio.

                    The only dish he didn't like was the tongue and cheek, that it was "tasteless". This probably speaks to dubchilds comment about Sao Paulistas liberal use of salt.

                    Thanks again for all of your recommendations

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