647323 Tue Aug 25 07:14:31 -0700 2009 41 18 Manhattan 0 4975434 I always enjoy the dive bars while in NYC. We are staying at the Wellington Hotel near Central Park (and I think 57th st) are there any good Dive bars near there. Also going tio the Beacon Theatre while in town, anything near there for a pre concert drink. Tue Aug 25 07:14:31 -0700 2009 44637 countgrog 1 4975647 http://www.divebarnyc.com/ This is north of you. My husband's gone there to watch football and a friend's husband used to play darts there. With its name, how could you go wrong? Tue Aug 25 08:11:55 -0700 2009 4975434 131001 c oliver 2 4976088 We love Dive Bar -- though note that the name is supposed to refer to it's scuba theme not its general character. :) Dive 75 would be closer to the Beacon than Dive Bar itself. We prefer Dive Bar, especially if you like tap beer (they have a very good rotating selection). Dive Bar (96th) also has a pretty eclectic menu which we often find pretty solid. Tue Aug 25 10:04:33 -0700 2009 4975647 104084 LNG212 1 4975886 I guess is depends on exactly how divey you want to go. The Subway Inn is on 59th just east of Lexington. (Rather incongruously across the street from Bloomingdales). I like dive bars, but I do have standards. I'm not a fan of Subway Inn, but some people like it for it's old-school grime. Your Mileage May Vary. :-) Tue Aug 25 09:09:45 -0700 2009 4975434 94227 egit 2 4976016 looking for cheap drinks, good juke box, interesting people watching. We were told there was a cool place by the Beacon called Yogi's, but from I can find it may have closed? Tue Aug 25 09:45:40 -0700 2009 4975886 44637 countgrog 3 4976169 Yogi's is indeed closed. Tue Aug 25 10:25:09 -0700 2009 4976016 10195 KTinNYC 3 4976300 Subway Inn is a true dive. Sounds like maybe not what you're looking for. I love it, but it's dark, dirty, and mostly empty save for a few regulars most of the time. Tue Aug 25 10:56:55 -0700 2009 4976016 1083824 glutton08 4 4976316 I'm a fan of Subway as well. All the tiles in the bar makes it very cool even in the summer. Tue Aug 25 11:00:49 -0700 2009 4976300 10195 KTinNYC 1 4976141 The area around your hotel is kind of a difficult place to find dive bars these days, I think, given the high price of real estate, there. But near the Beacon Theatre, there's a popular one called George Keeley's, which also serves a celebrated burger. There are many, many more divey places on Amsterdam in the 70s and 80s, including the Hi Life, the Dead Poet... and the really divey (kind of nasty) Gin Mill. Your best bet nearish your hotel might require some walking west to the Hell's Kitchen area. There's a place called Bar Nine (http://www.barnine.com/map.html ) with occasional live music, lots of interesting people watching (including the bartenders, many of whom are rugged looking types with hearts of gold... if a fellow named Thor still works there, he's a great one to chat with), sticky tables, some natty light on tap -- all the classic dive bar accoutrements. Tue Aug 25 10:17:18 -0700 2009 4975434 64215 cimui 2 4976156 I agree that Hi Life and Dead Poet, and esp. Gin Mill, are pretty divey. But I actually think George Keeley's isn't (Amsterdam at about 83rd). P&G has actually opened in its new digs too -- subterranean even and it is very cave-like (Columbus and maybe 78th?). Oh, Bar Nine definitely. And Rudy's!! Tue Aug 25 10:22:16 -0700 2009 4976141 104084 LNG212 3 4976211 I know, I hesitated about calling GK divey, too... maybe not. But it's a great bar, anyway. What's P&G? Oh, haven't been there, but I noticed that we have a (not-so) Village Pourhouse in the lower 100s, now, too. Wonder if that's any good. Tue Aug 25 10:33:58 -0700 2009 4976156 64215 cimui 4 4976321 P&G was the classic place on Amsterdam and 73rd that had the neon-lit martini glass and P&G lettering that was landmarked (totally old school and real divey). Of course another landlord wanting insane rent story. But the end result was that P&G found other digs at a price they could afford -- the old Evelyn Lounge space (just south of Ocean on that same block). I don't know how the landlord was allowed to dismantle the landmarked signage or what happened to it. I think the Times ran articles about P&G trying to get the sign taken down intact so they could reuse it. Never heard the result, though. Tue Aug 25 11:02:26 -0700 2009 4976211 104084 LNG212 5 4977996 I had to look this up: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/west-side-loses-a-neon-landmark/?hp The sign actually does look familiar, but I think I just thought of the place as "Cafe Bar"! Never went in there. Heck, I didn't even know that Evelyn Lounge had closed. I need to get out more. Tue Aug 25 19:12:49 -0700 2009 4976321 64215 cimui 6 4978028 The old P&G was one of my favorites. I've yet to get to the new one. If you end up going before/after the show at the beacon, please come back and let us know what you think of the new one. Tue Aug 25 19:25:17 -0700 2009 4977996 203536 Spends Rent on Food 7 4978908 The new P&G is very different. It's a lot more spacious and clean. It is not a bad bar, but the grime of history isn't all over this space the way it was on 73rd leaving this new bar looking more like a characterless dive/sports bar than a piece of history. That said, it is a good alternative when Dive 75 is too crowded. George Keeley is great for burgers and beer, though I don't think it is much of a dive. Hi-Life and Dead Poet, yes...Gin Mill questionable. I think that is actually a much nicer place than Jake's Dilemma where I often find myself. Wed Aug 26 07:22:00 -0700 2009 4978028 68363 JungMann 8 4978919 Agreed - the new P&G isn't the same. But the subterranean space is pretty different, I thought, like a bunch of intersecting caves. We haven't been to Jake's Dilemma in years (it's a little "young" for us) but we used to love that cayenne spiced popcorn they had at the bar. Do they still have that? (Keeley's popcorn is fine but not spiced.) Wed Aug 26 07:25:07 -0700 2009 4978908 104084 LNG212 9 4978973 I've never eaten anything at Jake's. It's a little too divey for me to consider that a safe prospect. The Gin Mill has a similarly young crowd which is one reason I think of it more as a frat bar. Wed Aug 26 07:44:26 -0700 2009 4978919 68363 JungMann 4 4978970 George Keeley's = definitely not divey. Great beer selection, and the food is pretty good. We often go to dive bar at 96th, because there is good food, and they serve pitchers of pretty good beer. Again though, I wouldn't call it divey. I live near the uptown Village Pourhouse, but haven't gone yet. I did not like the original one in the village. Whatever they replaced their Jameson with was absolutely disgusting. The one uptown is where all the columbia students go, and they have beer pong. Supposedly though if you take a cab there, they will give you a bar tab equal to the cab fare. Wed Aug 26 07:43:35 -0700 2009 4976211 103062 AndrewOG 3 4978158 Ditto to Rudy's. On 9 ave and 44 or 45 st. It has a big pig in front. Hard to miss. Tue Aug 25 20:18:56 -0700 2009 4976156 268231 MahatmaKanejeeves 4 4978770 I keep reading about Ruy's so it will be a stop. Looks like we may do P&G and george keesley's on concert day at the Beacon. Keep them coming we will be there 5 days. Wed Aug 26 06:39:18 -0700 2009 4978158 44637 countgrog 1 4978043 Jimmy's Corner on 44th between Broadway and 6th. It's a bar bar that you go to when you need a drink and you just want to hang. Plus I like the old boxing memorabilia. Tue Aug 25 19:32:35 -0700 2009 4975434 165818 funniduck 1 4978991 There's an irish pub between. broadway and amsterdam on 79th - The Dublin House. It has a giant neon harp sign, which you can see from blocks away. Two other irish pub places which fit the bill may be Malachy's at(W. 72nd St near Columbus Ave) or The Emerald Inn (W. 69th and Columbus). I haven't actually been to either of those, but they may fit the bill. Anyone? Wed Aug 26 07:51:43 -0700 2009 4975434 103062 AndrewOG 2 4979060 Malachy's used to be a Julliard/MSM hangout, but I don't think it is anymore. It looks to be a mostly post-work crowd and I see the bar pretty empty most evenings. Wed Aug 26 08:12:15 -0700 2009 4978991 68363 JungMann 2 4979070 According to DH and his friends, Dublin House still pours the best Guinness in Manhattan. I've only been to Emerald Inn a couple of times (to watch soccer). It's a little divey - as in older regulars, been there forever kinda feel. It was a great place to catch soccer though. Oh, and to add, there's always The Parlour as well (on 86th just west of Bway). That's also a good place to watch soccer. And they have pool tables. Unfortunately I've always found the bartenders very unfriendly there (except when you have a private party which I did once there and it was awesome). Wed Aug 26 08:14:03 -0700 2009 4978991 104084 LNG212 3 4979501 I know it's not necessarily on topic for this thread, but Molly's may want to have a word with "DH and his friends" on that topic. :) Wed Aug 26 10:07:52 -0700 2009 4979070 94227 egit 1 4979064 i like the dead poet, and it's only 6 or 7 blocks from the beacon if youre willing to travel, head down to blue and gold on 7th street. Wed Aug 26 08:13:13 -0700 2009 4975434 135229 thew 2 4979549 If you are willing to travel all the way to the East Village there are way better dives then Blue and Gold. Mona's, Lucy's, Sophie's just to name a few. There are many more. Blue and Gold, IMO, is a frat hole. Wed Aug 26 10:17:19 -0700 2009 4979064 10195 KTinNYC 3 4979671 Lucy's is temporarily closed. Eater.com has some coverage on it, but as yet it remains something of a mysterty. Wed Aug 26 10:47:10 -0700 2009 4979549 94227 egit 3 5013168 Don't forget Mars Bar. Tue Sep 08 08:15:44 -0700 2009 4979549 77224 davisready 4 5014266 yep, i was scrolling down and waiting to see if anyone had mentioned the Mars Bar: probably the grimiest, most sordid, punkiest, and most alcoholism-inducing bar in Manhattan...other bars may try for this title, but given how tiny the Mars Bar is, it surely wins in terms of any kind of dive-fame/sleaze per sq ft ratio... for a really toxic evening, go there, start downing whisky, and then have a Two Boots "Mr Pink" pizza delivered, and share it w/ your new friends and enemies... Tue Sep 08 14:27:36 -0700 2009 5013168 11077 Simon 5 5022159 Dirty? Yes. Divey? Sure. Even sleezy would be appropriate. But, don't ever go and call The Patriot awful :). That place was an oasis for me when I used to work down there. A favorite for sure. Fri Sep 11 09:40:02 -0700 2009 5021745 1083824 glutton08 6 5022200 I guess a whole group of responses were deleted. It was I who mentioned The Patriot. :) I've actually not been -- DH goes there with a friend of his and said it's so divey that he won't let me go meet him there! But they do have cheap PBRs which is what was mentioned in the deleted posts. Fri Sep 11 09:53:29 -0700 2009 5022159 104084 LNG212 5 5022459 The Mars Bar is like a Bukowski nightmare. It's a place that never loses it's "charm". Fri Sep 11 11:07:22 -0700 2009 5014266 10147 michele cindy 2 4980089 If you're going the Blue & Gold route then you're better off going to Cherry Tavern which is on 6th and A I believe. Also, I don't know how much it counts as a dive but i think it fits the bill: McKenna's on 14th between 7th & 8th. really awesome and ridiculously cheap food and $2 PBRs...yet its totally not a hipster joint. I always have a good time there. very laid back. www.thedailydankness.blogspot.com Wed Aug 26 12:30:25 -0700 2009 4979064 1104672 dailydankness 1 4980535 rudy's, 9th @ 44th, but you knew that Wed Aug 26 14:35:44 -0700 2009 4975434 105009 holland_oats 2 5013084 Rudy's keeps coming up so we may hit that one. Plan looks like maybe some beers and a Burger at George Keeleys and then maybe hit another place in that area preconcert. Tue Sep 08 07:48:09 -0700 2009 4980535 44637 countgrog 3 5013235 rudy's is rumored to be closing...i dont know if it has yet. Tue Sep 08 08:41:08 -0700 2009 5013084 1103202 smokeandapancake 1 5013233 My go to "dive" is the delta grill. they make the best (and probably the only) Muffaletta in nyc. Tue Sep 08 08:40:24 -0700 2009 4975434 1103202 smokeandapancake 2 5014361 Unless this is outdated info, the Dive Bar does a muffaletta, too: http://www.eatingintranslation.com/2007/09/dive-bar.html If we're talking dives, I'll cast another vote for Subway Inn. Downtown, I used to hit up the Holiday Cocktail Lounge. The owner passed away not too long ago. I used to hit up Mona's as well, which is darker and more cavernous than the Mars Bar, allowing a drinker to be more anonymous and incognito, the way a drinker ought to be. I also used to haunt the Grassroots, which, last time I checked, still pours a cheap pint. My wife and I were denied entry on a recent "date" in January, because she didn't have ID on her. We're both in our forties; they mean business. And, yeah, Rudy's...good old Rudy's, a bar that hearkens back to a time where it fit in better in its' immediate neighborhood. The jukebox is hard to beat: blues, jazz, soul and a free water dog. RIP Downtown Beirut. P. Tue Sep 08 14:56:35 -0700 2009 5013233 24813 Polecat 1 5013244 The best... though not in the area is Billymark's West on 29th and 9th. Billy is the best! Tue Sep 08 08:44:44 -0700 2009 4975434 294062 lawgirl1984 2 5013394 For a muffaletta? or just as far as a dive is concerned? Tue Sep 08 09:30:55 -0700 2009 5013244 1103202 smokeandapancake 1 5014576 Scroll down to the Dive Bar section in this article from Frommer's NYC. http://www.frommers.com/destinations/newyorkcity/0021023899.html Tue Sep 08 16:21:23 -0700 2009 4975434 230111 salvati