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steflink Aug 23, 2009 04:03 PM

Philly question---Union Trust or Butcher and Singer

Am trying to decide between the two for a September dinner.

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    Buckethead Aug 24, 2009 12:58 PM

    My info on UT is from before the opening chef left, but assuming the steaks are the same as they were then, I'd go to UT in a heartbeat over B&S. Of three steaks I've had at B&S, only one was cooked to the temperature that was ordered. I was only at UT once but my steak was perfect and the sides were fantastic, unlike at B&S. Of course, as I said, that was a while ago and the chef who was heading UT when I was there has since left. I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes in a place that size though.

    Also, the space at UT is much prettier than B&S, I really don't like that old-timey supper club look they have going on there.

    1. OlderPhiladelphian Aug 24, 2009 12:37 PM

      Barclay Prime, no doubt about it.

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        barryg Aug 24, 2009 12:41 PM

        Guys, please read up, OP has been to BP and wants to try somewhere new.

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        RocketJSquirrel Aug 24, 2009 12:27 PM

        Barclay Prime, first and foremost.

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          micreynolds Aug 24, 2009 07:43 AM

          My vote is for Barclay Prime.

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            feklar42 Aug 24, 2009 07:08 AM

            I haven't been to Union Trust, but of the Steak Houses I've been to, I'd rank them as follows:

            Barclay Prime--nothing to be said

            Capital Grill--their service is great--they remember me and know where I like to sit, etc., the beef is excellent (I love the kona rub option), there are more entree options than B&S, though fewer desserts

            I'd put B&S and the Palm about the same--Palm is slightly less expensive and a more casual setting, service is good--again, they remember me and my preferences--they have more entree options also, their sides are great, their desserts ok, but not fabulous. B&S has a formal atmosphere and decor, but it's also a fun setting. I feel like their entree and side selections are more limited, but they have excellent desserts. I did once get a filet that was cooked beyond my request of rare and they replaced it, but they rushed the replacement (I was with a 4 person party) and it was a little too cold, but overall I've had good meals there and enjoy it.

            Morton's--standard steak house, stuffier atmosphere than the others. not bad, but I definitely like others better, the only reason I'd go back would be for a souffle which I love, but they are hard to find.

            Del Frisco's--worth going to for the architecture alone--it's awesome. The atmosphere feels stuffier, but they have the waitresses running around looking like go-go girls. The food is good and there are some interesting variations on the steak house theme, but it just doesn't click with me.

            Ruth's Chris--standard, underwhelming compared to the others IMO.

            Not ranked option: Davio's--I haven't been there in years, but I did like the food a lot. I remember I had an excellent rack of lamb.

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              barryg Aug 23, 2009 05:21 PM

              Barclay Prime.

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                steflink Aug 23, 2009 05:30 PM

                We've been there twice already--looking to go to someplace new.

              2. steflink Aug 23, 2009 04:20 PM

                Or the Palm?

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                  crazyspice Aug 23, 2009 04:22 PM

                  Don Shula's daughter (who is a great friend of mine) will tell you to go to B&S.

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