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Is there a store in SF similar to Zabars, NY for nova, bagels & appetizing foods?

Zabars does 1-day shipping but it would be much easier to just shop in San Fran if there's something as good there as Zabars. Many thanks.

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    1. I don't think so. Even in NYC, the closest thing to Zabar's (and where I've bought excellent nova & bagels) is Russ & Daughters. They also ship. Have never seen anything like Zabar's in any other U.S. city.

      1. Putting bagels aside, you can get most other supplies locally.

        Bi-Rite has really good nova style smoked salmon and smoked whitefish salad; Swan Oyster Depot's cured salmon is equally delicious.

        New World Market out on Geary in the Outer Richmond is a Russian Jewish deli with great pickles, samples of weird meats, pickled fish, etc, and comparatively low prices.

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        1. re: Windy

          brian j and Alan C seem to think we may have the bagel problem solved.
          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/646268
          It's sort of funny that today's Zabar's online deli page features Aidell's sausages.

          1. Oh, but the depth and breadth of Zabar's? I can't even imagine anyone coming close outside of NYC.

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            1. re: c oliver

              I tend to be very reluctant to make "SF can't compete with NY" proclamations, but having lived on the Upper West Side....a Zabar's replica? You won't find that here.

              I had the same thought about how some of their offerings may be found in scattered locations around SF, but probably not under the same roof.

            2. Well it's not in SF, but there is Dean and Deluca in Napa... Not quite? I loved Zabar's when I lived in New York.

              http://www.deandeluca.com/Aboutus/Def...

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              1. re: Shrinkrap

                Anyone looking for Zabar's and going to Dean & DeLucca Napa would be massively dissapoiinted. I know I was ... and I wasn't even looking for a Zabar's substitute.

                1. re: rworange

                  Agree. Dean & DeLucca in Napa has no where near the breadth of Zabar's -- and worse, what it does have seems to be 10% more expensive than even the most overpriced places in San Francisco (like Mollie Stone) for cheese, prosciutto, ... Cow Girl's Red Hawk was well over $30/lb!

                  1. re: rworange

                    I agree. Even if Dean & DeLuca has some of the same goods as Zabar's, it is terribly overpriced and doesn't have the range of products and feel in terms of the atmosphere. As I said before, I've never found a store in the States comparable to Zabar's. There have been a few shops in Europe that remind me of it, but still didn't offer the overall Zabar's experience. I do think Zabar's is one of a kind.

                    P.S. Personally, I don't think Zabar's bagels are all that great. When I'm in New York,I usually go to H&H (it;s practically next door). H&H also ships. Or as I said before, now that I've discovered Russ & Daughters (which also ships from NYC), I get bagels and lox there.

                2. absolutely not.
                  there is not one emporium in the entire bay area that has that quality of smoked fish, let alone bagels.
                  there are great places to buy prepared foods -- e.g. Market Hall in the East Bay.
                  But there just ain't the nova, sable, smoked chubs with the flavor of NY.

                  1. there is not even a "decent " NY Deli in the Bay Area

                    1. as everybody has noted there is nothing.
                      i've had good experiences shipping from zabars and also from barney greengrass. but not as good as being there.