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Is there a store in SF similar to Zabars, NY for nova, bagels & appetizing foods?

Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 07:11 PM

Zabars does 1-day shipping but it would be much easier to just shop in San Fran if there's something as good there as Zabars. Many thanks.

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  1. Melanie Wong RE: Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 07:37 PM


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      Gigi007 RE: Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 07:44 PM

      I don't think so. Even in NYC, the closest thing to Zabar's (and where I've bought excellent nova & bagels) is Russ & Daughters. They also ship. Have never seen anything like Zabar's in any other U.S. city.

      1. Windy RE: Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 07:54 PM

        Putting bagels aside, you can get most other supplies locally.

        Bi-Rite has really good nova style smoked salmon and smoked whitefish salad; Swan Oyster Depot's cured salmon is equally delicious.

        New World Market out on Geary in the Outer Richmond is a Russian Jewish deli with great pickles, samples of weird meats, pickled fish, etc, and comparatively low prices.

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          wolfe RE: Windy Aug 22, 2009 07:57 PM

          brian j and Alan C seem to think we may have the bagel problem solved.
          It's sort of funny that today's Zabar's online deli page features Aidell's sausages.

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            Robert Lauriston RE: Windy Aug 23, 2009 11:10 AM

            Second on Bi-Rite and New World.

          2. c oliver RE: Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 08:54 PM

            Oh, but the depth and breadth of Zabar's? I can't even imagine anyone coming close outside of NYC.

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              Agent 510 RE: c oliver Aug 22, 2009 09:02 PM

              I tend to be very reluctant to make "SF can't compete with NY" proclamations, but having lived on the Upper West Side....a Zabar's replica? You won't find that here.

              I had the same thought about how some of their offerings may be found in scattered locations around SF, but probably not under the same roof.

            2. Shrinkrap RE: Beau711 Aug 22, 2009 11:01 PM

              Well it's not in SF, but there is Dean and Deluca in Napa... Not quite? I loved Zabar's when I lived in New York.


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                rworange RE: Shrinkrap Aug 23, 2009 08:01 AM

                Anyone looking for Zabar's and going to Dean & DeLucca Napa would be massively dissapoiinted. I know I was ... and I wasn't even looking for a Zabar's substitute.

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                  Thomas Nash RE: rworange Aug 23, 2009 10:22 AM

                  Agree. Dean & DeLucca in Napa has no where near the breadth of Zabar's -- and worse, what it does have seems to be 10% more expensive than even the most overpriced places in San Francisco (like Mollie Stone) for cheese, prosciutto, ... Cow Girl's Red Hawk was well over $30/lb!

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                    Gigi007 RE: rworange Aug 23, 2009 10:28 AM

                    I agree. Even if Dean & DeLuca has some of the same goods as Zabar's, it is terribly overpriced and doesn't have the range of products and feel in terms of the atmosphere. As I said before, I've never found a store in the States comparable to Zabar's. There have been a few shops in Europe that remind me of it, but still didn't offer the overall Zabar's experience. I do think Zabar's is one of a kind.

                    P.S. Personally, I don't think Zabar's bagels are all that great. When I'm in New York,I usually go to H&H (it;s practically next door). H&H also ships. Or as I said before, now that I've discovered Russ & Daughters (which also ships from NYC), I get bagels and lox there.

                2. escargot3 RE: Beau711 Aug 23, 2009 09:52 PM

                  absolutely not.
                  there is not one emporium in the entire bay area that has that quality of smoked fish, let alone bagels.
                  there are great places to buy prepared foods -- e.g. Market Hall in the East Bay.
                  But there just ain't the nova, sable, smoked chubs with the flavor of NY.

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                    mustardgirl RE: Beau711 Aug 24, 2009 03:25 AM

                    there is not even a "decent " NY Deli in the Bay Area

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                      neu RE: Beau711 Aug 25, 2009 06:39 AM

                      as everybody has noted there is nothing.
                      i've had good experiences shipping from zabars and also from barney greengrass. but not as good as being there.

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