Does a burger need a topping?
OK we have discussed best burgers but what about toppings? I had a burger with Stilton on top last week and it was really great ,but did I miss what a burger is? I went to another burger place the next day lettuce ,tomato and onions and char grilled I though what is better......Now I ask you CH what is best
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Cheddar cheese on a medium rare greasy cheeseburger is bliss.
If there is lettuce, tomato, and raw onion, great! I don't love ketchup anymore, but I'll mix some of that in there if there's no tomato, along with mayo and mustard.
No bacon, no fillings, nothing in the meat mixture except salt and pepper.
Pikiliz, Charm City has a burger with an egg on it. I'm tempted to try it - I adore runny yolks!
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I grew up with the good but messy lettuce/tomato/relish,mayo/ketchup burger and thought it fine.
Then, for a period, I had some "upscale" and "loaded" ones when eating out and thought them fine.
But more recently I find that I like a simple Whimpy "I'll pay you Wednesday for a hamburger today" kind above all others- on-the-thinner-side toasted bun, ketchup, maybe mustard (French's), a butter-griddled patty with some salt, and nothing else. Very pure. I think it the best. No cheese, please.
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my favorites would be.... sauteed mushrooms and onions, swiss cheese, and bbq sauce or mayo. or a fried egg, cheddar cheese, bacon, lettuce, tomato, raw onion, mayo. or just lettuce tomato, raw onion, mayo. but it must have something tasty...
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re: pikiliz
I'll vouch for kubasd and the egg. It's delicious; kind of like steak and eggs, only much better.
Off the subject - fried eggs also get along great with pizza. Tried it at a local DC spot that served up a seasonal Neapolitan pizza with light/fresh sauce, green tomatoes as topping and one gorgeous over easy egg at center. Bliss.
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For me, a burger *must* have at least cheese, preferably a good quality Swiss. Beyond that, I love good caramelized sweet onions, sauteed mushrooms, garlicky dill pickle slices, bacon, maybe some lettuce, and ketchup spiked with Sriracha. And maybe a fried egg. Not all together, of course, that'd be overwhelming, but some combination of the above.
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Personally I like cheese and some minimal toppings (tomatoes, onions, a little ketchup) on burgers. One thing I don't like is when burgers are overly seasoned with the flavor built in. For example, not too long ago I had a "mustard burger" at a popular restaurant in Florida. I couldn't believe how overpowered the meat was by the mustard. I learned my lesson and won't order that again. So, toppings yes, but built-in seasonings/marination, no!
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Cheeseburger or no burger. Put whatever you want on top, so long as cheese goes on first.
The burger patty is like a good pizza crust - it's a blank canvas for creative expression (even if it's OH2FL's peanut butter). Though sometimes simple is best. gotta admit, I still love a good salt & pepper seasoned grill burger topped with a slice of Kraft American quartered and stacked. Pop that on the burger before taking it off the grill and it melts down like a pat of butter, oozing over the sides of the patty and into the nooks and crannies of a toasted English muffin.
My only rule: Don't ruin a burger with ketchup. That's a child's condiment.
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No matter how good the beef, for me a burger is always improved with cheese,preferably cheddar,but just about any will do.As others have specified,melted on the burger not the bun.Onions,but they must be cooked.Could be caramelized or chopped and sauteed.These are musts.Ketchup is a plus,but not crucial.My favorite burger bun is Martin's potato roll,or an english muffin.No pickles,or any condiments other than ketchup.
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Peanut butter and sweet relish. No doubt about it. Well maybe peanut butter, bacon and cheddar... Or...... Hehehe
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You can put it open-face on a buttered and toasted bun, and ladle lots of chili (preferably bean-less) over it and maybe throw some cheese and onion on top and I will be one happy oinkster. And don't forget to put a bottle of hot sauce on the table.
The traditional name for this kind of lavishly-embellished chili burger is "chili size". The name makes no sense at all, but there it is.
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I'm a fan of condiments. Pickles, ketchup, mayo, mustard, thousand island, cheese in any shape or form, fried onions, BBQ sauce, bacon, avacado, lettuce, chili, tomato, mushrooms, you name it, I want it on my burger. Especially the mustard and pickles. I've been known to go back to drive thru's because they didn't put "extra everything" as I requested.
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My personal favorite way to eat a burger is with the following:
Cheese melted ON the burger
A slice of perfectly ripe tomato (so I eschew them in the winter)
Mayonnaise on the lightly toasted white bread (Yes you read that right, on toast)
And sometimes a slice of nice crisp onion, red or sweet onions either way.I mix salt and pepper into the burger meat and cook it really slow to a nice medium. But only with beef I trust which means beef we purchased from a local butcher.
I have also been known to stuff two ultra-thin beef patties with that blue cheese-cheddar stacked looking cheese.
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When I was young all i would eat was burger and bun. Nothing else. Plain (ok, some salt.) I still like them that way, but as I have grown older my appreciation of various toppings has grown as well. But a really good piece of ground beef, a minimum of seasoning, on a really good bun or bread... thats good eating.
If i really want to judge how good a burger is, then the fewer "exotic" toppings the better. But if the burger is bad, it really doesn't matter how many great toppings you add, it is still a bad burger.
At a certain point the toppings/cheese/condiments completely overwhelm the burger. At that point it almost seems silly to even have the burger in there at all.
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re: KaimukiMan
A neighbor when I was about 10 or so, had a brother named Phillip who would ONLY eat plain burgers. That is it. As in no other food but a plain burger. He would drink milk too.
Well, one night we were all playing outside and I got him to eat a Popsicle! His sister cheered and ran home to tell Mom so he threw it down and pretended he never tasted it, but I knew.... Mygod that was forever ago.
I like my burger a little bit busy, but if it gets built up too high and I can't wrap my mouth around it I have to take it apart and re-negotiate toppings.
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My burgers usually have a bottom..............
I don;t like most condiments. I hate ketchup and am allergic to mustard.Last night I made burgers on the grill for the family.
I grind my own beef. I mixed in some soy based marinade and formed the patties and let them all marinate in the fridge for 4 hours. Cooked the burgers rare for myself and wife, medium for the daughters.I sauteed (until well done and carmelized to a dark brown color) some mushrooms and onions (chopped quite small). Then I grilled the bottom
half of a good hard roll.
I made a bed of the onions and mushrooms on the roll half, and the burger was placed on top.
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I personally believe a burger needs cheese. It can be cheddar, swiss, pepper jack, bleu, boursin, or even on certain days american cheese food product. I just don't enjoy a burger as much if there is no cheese.
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re: mojoeater
I don't ever put cheese on a burger (ala cheeseburger), BUT I make a BleuBurger for my wife on the grill at least once a week.
I mix the ground beef (85% lean) with a little Allegro marinade and mix in crumbled Bleu Cheese, form the patties and grill until the chees is melted throughout the burger (unfortunately, this means a medium rare to medium burger, not rare as we prefer)
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A lonely burger with just ketchup just doesn't seem right. Same for just a plain cheeseburger with no adornments.
Yes, I think at least one topping, sometimes more, are needed.
Onions in some form are a personal "must" - crisp raw slice, warm caramelized or crunchy fried onion rings -- no matter, but there *must* be onion.
Pickle slices make a big taste and crunch improvement.
If we're going on from basics, then cheese is next, followed closely by bacon. The cheese must be melted on the burger, NOT the bun, and the bacon MUST be crisp, but not shatteringly so.
Lettuce is optional, but must not be limp shreds à la McWhoozits, nor frou-frou romaine leaves; this is the natural province of iceberg lettuce.
Purely from my own personal taste, I feel tomato slices totally unnecessary when either ketchup or other tomato-based condiment is planned. :)›2 Replies-
re: mcsheridan
re: Tomato - I feel that ketchup or other tomato-based condiments are just poor replacements for a very lightly salted and peppered slice of a big Beefsteak style tomato (no Romas or other shrimps need apply.)
Do agree with you on the lettuce, though - big, crisp cold slices of iceberg are the best, especially if you put them between shallow bowls in the fridge so they take on the bowl shape - this makes them perfect to hold in the "wetter" ingredients like mustard and relish without them squishing out of the bun.
Also with you on the onions - my grandmom made an onion relish that was wonderful, but slices, chopped, caramelized - love 'em all.
Cheese, not so important to me - I like it, but don't need it. Same with bacon. Sometimes I just want to taste the burger.
Two things I never put on a burger at home are mayo or ketchup, which seem to be on all FF burgers. I will occasionally add a dab of HP Sauce (think A-1 but thicker) if I'm eating frozen burgers. Some BBQ sauces aren't bad either, if I'm desperate.
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