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<topic>
  <id>644579</id>
  <title>Clover ice cream: just fancier packaging or fancier ice cream?</title>
  <published_at>Thu Aug 13 22:09:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>14</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>1</id>
    <name>San Francisco Bay Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4945519</id>
        <content>Here in the north bay, our local dairy, Clover, just made its ice cream packaging more upscale. The ice cream tastes better to me, too---
or am I just being influenced by the slicker package?
What do you think?</content>
        <published_at>Thu Aug 13 22:09:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>17062</id>
          <name>wearybashful</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4945613</id>
      <content>Likely the new packaging makes it SELL faster. Another place where packaging/labels is important is mid-range wine. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 13 23:57:04 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4945519</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11938</id>
        <name>Tripeler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4947427</id>
      <content>I think they're making the right marketing decision, because a local company shouldn't look like national bargain brands--- people don't expect it to.

But has anybody eaten the stuff? There seem to be new flavors, too. I had vanilla bean, which was good, and I'm pretty sure there used to be just plain vanilla and French vanilla.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 14 15:48:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4945613</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17062</id>
        <name>wearybashful</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5013970</id>
      <content>Haven't had the ice cream, but I think the Clover Organic milk and cream has been very good lately.  I think Strauss has been very healthy competition.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 08 12:50:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4947427</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17221</id>
        <name>SteveG</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5015096</id>
      <content>Ok, curiousity got the better of me and I picked up a carton of French Vanilla when I was at Castaneda's this weekend.  I didn't have that much experience with the product before the new packaging, mostly in root beer floats or pie ala mode.  This seems much denser and is almost chewy.  I think the previous product had more air in it.  I think it's aiming to compete with Dreyer's and is priced lower.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 08 19:47:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4947427</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5010111</id>
      <content>Holy mackerel, I don't care how they package it, I just want to get it down in the East Bay! My family was just up in Point Reyes Station for a week, and--innocently enough--bought some Clover chocolate. It was the most intense, phenomenal chocolate we have ever tasted, short of making our own. Amazing stuff. My wife, who produced two strapping children with Ben &amp; Jerry's, has been suggesting I make a drive up to San Rafael for some more. Any idea of the location &lt;i&gt;closest&lt;/i&gt; to the Richmond/SR bridge to pick some up? You Marin/Sonoma folks don't know how good you have it.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 20:12:08 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4945613</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1107378</id>
        <name>skilletgazer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5010232</id>
      <content>There are several stores in the East Bay that carry Clover products. I'd email Clover and ask who carries the ice cream.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 21:37:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5010111</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10159</id>
        <name>Ruth Lafler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5011056</id>
      <content>Piedmont Grocery carries Clover ice cream.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 07 10:27:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5010232</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17723</id>
        <name>lexdevil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5014134</id>
      <content>Indeed, while quite a few of the East Bay stores on their website carry their milk and yogurt, many don't have the ice cream. Monterey Market, Andronico's on Shattuck, and Berkeley Natural Foods all don't.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 08 13:46:06 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5011056</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11816</id>
        <name>Agent 510</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5014156</id>
      <content>I wrote them to see if any SF stores carry it.  The news that Andronicos doesn't carry it makes me pessimistic.  I'll pass on any response.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Sep 08 13:52:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5014134</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>57615</id>
        <name>jcormac</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>5017993</id>
      <content>Piedmont Grocery still carried it as of yesterday, but the packaging was the same old same old.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 09 18:54:04 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5014134</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17723</id>
        <name>lexdevil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>5018011</id>
      <content>Here's the new package. http://cloverstornetta.com/images/products/conventional/250pixfrenchvanilla.jpg

It was $3.99 for 1.4L at the market where I purchased the French Vanilla flavor; Dreyer's was $4.99.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 09 19:02:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5017993</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10039</id>
        <name>Melanie Wong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5010718</id>
      <content>Andornico's used to carry clover ice cream and they are in the East bay</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 07 08:08:14 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4945519</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15001</id>
        <name>jsaimd</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5017588</id>
      <content>The Clover Website has a locator link. I'll have to mosey on in to Walnut Creek and try their chocolate ice cream.  When I was expecting my (now grown) kids, I used to drink their chocolate milk as a relatively healthy indulgence. Clover made it with tapioca powder as a thickener and it was like drinking a chocolate malt. Yum!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 09 16:09:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5010718</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28050</id>
        <name>gardyloo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5020038</id>
      <content>BTW, got a nice response from Clover saying no one in SF currently carries their stuff but that this place in San Mateo did.  So FYI:

Piazza Fine Foods
1218 West Hillsdale Blvd
San Mateo 94403
650 341-9496  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 10 13:01:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5017588</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>57615</id>
        <name>jcormac</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
