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$10 meals - did I miss anything?

Kajikit Aug 9, 2009 11:06 AM

I just realised I forgot to set the dvr to tape this before I went to church... did anyone watch it? Did I miss anything great, or did Melissa bomb?

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    CocoaNut RE: Kajikit Aug 9, 2009 11:09 AM

    There were a couple of stutter steps, but overall, she's a natural. My take-away was the ease of doing a pie/pastry crust. I seen it done a million times, but there was something about her's that seemed simplified......

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      mdepsmom RE: Kajikit Aug 9, 2009 11:11 AM

      I watched it and thought Melissa did a good job. She didn't look nervous at all and seemed to know her stuff.

      The potato/bacon/gruyere torte she made sounded and looked good but, once sliced, had a little bit of a soupy consistency that turned me off. Maybe she didn't let it rest long enough (although she said she let it rest for 15 minutes). The other dishes - a salad and an applesauce granita w/ yogurt sauce - didn't do anything for me.

      I don't like the title, reminds me too much of RR's $40 a day. I didn't think Melissa's "culinary point of view" was cooking on a budget - wasn't the working title suggested by Alton Brown something like "Rescue Chef"?

      1. The Dairy Queen RE: Kajikit Aug 9, 2009 11:58 AM

        She didn't bomb, but it wasn't great either. Typical food network stuff. I am a little irritated by the $10 meal concept, because if you went out and bought all of the ingredients to make the meal, then it would cost you more than $10. They're assuming you're drawing from your pantry, which I think is disingenuous.

        The food network seems to think we care about people's personal stories. How her relationship is with her mother in law, that her mom taught her to carve her initials into the pie, etc. I don't mean to be callous, but I don't care about that personal information, especially if they are just sharing it for the sake of sharing it, which I think they are. I'd like to know less about you; and more about food. For instance, I liked the story about how she got the salad dressing recipe; I would have liked to know more about that cafe and the inspiration for the meal itself.

        ~TDQ

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          Remander RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 9, 2009 12:22 PM

          Dairy Queen, Bob Tuschman won't hire anyone unless they constantly tell stories about their granny and their stupid kids. Any time a NFNS contestant makes such a reference, the camera cuts to Bob, and he just beams. Makes me want to slap him.

          I join those who think the concept/title for the show is pitiful.

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            Phaedrus RE: Remander Aug 9, 2009 06:21 PM

            I would like to slap him regardless of whether the camera goes to him or not. He epitomizes what went wrong with FN. I saw the tease for the NFNS with him and decided to never watch the stupid thing.

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              rozz01 RE: Remander Aug 18, 2009 08:52 PM

              AMEN !!!

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              Kajikit RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 9, 2009 01:19 PM

              Do you mean that they assumed you had a full spice rack and oil/sugar/flour in your pantry? Because almost everyone who cooks does... do does their miraculous pantry already include twenty dollars worth of canned goods waiting to be used for this particular meal?

              In this case I care less about the warm and cosy family stories than I do about the budget...

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                jgg13 RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 11, 2009 08:38 AM

                It's just like all of the stupid backstories at the olympics.

                I'm sure they've run the numbers and the storytelling brings in more people vs. the people it scares away. I know w/ the olympics the reason supposedly was to increase female viewership, but I doubt it's the same for TFN

              2. kprange RE: Kajikit Aug 9, 2009 02:11 PM

                I liked the show. I am going to try the potatoes and the apple stuff - can't remember what it is called. I also think they are assuming that you are not going out to buy all the ingredients - they are breaking down the cost. think about it - don't most of you have most of the ingredients on hand most of the time?

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                  The Dairy Queen RE: kprange Aug 9, 2009 02:31 PM

                  Guyere cheese and bacon and heavy cream are things I don't have in my pantry as a matter of routine and I don't think I could buy all those for $4, which is what she claimed her bacon torte costs. Yes, she only used 4 strips of bacon, but to make this meal, you're going to have to shell out more than $10, plus use potatoes and flour and butter out of your pantry. And now you have bacon in your freezer, something I personally really try to not eat much of.

                  I just went to a local grocery store's website to get prices. Obviously, prices vary and you get what you can on sale, etc, but this is just at my fingertips:
                  http://shop.lundsandbyerlys.com/shopp...

                  Here's 8 oz of Land O Lakes Heavy Whipping Cream for $2.29
                  Guyere for $22/lb (you need 1/4 cup--what's that 3 oz maybe? You'd have to do the math here, but it's at least a couple of bucks. And, if they really meant for you to go out and buy this and really come in at around $10, they would have tipped you, "Oh, when you're at your cheesemonger, tell him you need X ounces, or whatever 1/4 is.).
                  Bacon for $3.89

                  ~TDQ

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                    James Cristinian RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 9, 2009 03:52 PM

                    I have two grocery stores close to me where I can buy bacon by the slice. I routinely buy three or four slices for cheese stuffed jalapenos on the grill, and it doesn't cost anywhere near $3.89.

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                      The Dairy Queen RE: James Cristinian Aug 9, 2009 04:02 PM

                      Honestly, I've never bought bacon by the slice, but a pack of bacon is about $4. She didn't advocate buying bacon by the slice, but it would have been a good thing for her to suggest, wouldn't it have been?

                      ~TDQ

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                      Kajikit RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 9, 2009 04:01 PM

                      I don't know how much gruyere is - I don't even know where to buy it! I rarely use cream but I know it's about two bucks for a small carton. I buy a pack of reduced-sodium bacon regularly and use it a few slices at a time all week. The kind I get is about four bucks a pack and four slices would only be about a quarter of that... potatoes are a dollar a pound at the outside. If you used the cheapest bacon you can get it's $2.50 a pound. So say that torte costs five dollars.

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                        spellweaver16 RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 01:08 AM

                        You can probably use swiss instead.

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                          kprange RE: spellweaver16 Aug 10, 2009 05:16 AM

                          That is true - I substitute ingredients all the time. I try to look at recipes as techniques that can be modified and changed.

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                        LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 24, 2009 04:01 PM

                        I bought some gruyere just a week or two ago. A smallish (maybe a little over half a pound?) chunk of it was almost $8. Well worth it, but wouldn't have left much for those potatoes, etc.

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                          The Dairy Queen RE: LulusMom Aug 24, 2009 04:15 PM

                          I'm so glad you bumped this thread. (And, P.S. I love Gruyere!) because I was on the food network's site and have noticed that with the summaries for Melissa's episodes, she now provides a listing of additional suggestions for staying within a a budget for the meal discussed in that episdoe. I don't know if this is a new feature or if it was been there all along, but I think it does add credibility to the "$10 promise" premise.

                          Also, for those looking for the recipe for the applesauce granita (or whatever it was called), it is now posted on the food network site.

                          ~TDQ

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                          runwestierun RE: The Dairy Queen Feb 21, 2010 03:47 PM

                          Lund's and Byerly's are very expensive. You can get a pound of gruyere at Trader Joe's for under $8. If you are trying to cook for 4 for $10 you are not going to be shopping in an area's highest end groceries.

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                            kprange RE: runwestierun Feb 21, 2010 06:41 PM

                            I love Trader Joe's

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                          The Dairy Queen RE: kprange Aug 9, 2009 02:39 PM

                          Oh, I think you mean the apple lemon granita.

                          Apple sauce $2.29
                          Lemon $1
                          Yogurt $.89

                          Plus maple syrup and cinnamon out of your pantry. She said the torte was $4, the salad was $3, which leaves you $3 for dessert, which price she exceeded.

                          I just don't like the $10 conceit, I guess. Even if you're not a freakish number adder upper like I am, it doesn't take you long to realize you're going to go over $10 if you really plan to do this meal.

                          I thought the granita sounded interesting too, actually as I'm always looking for healthy desserts and that would certainly do in a pinch. But, she could have just made applesauce out of apples, if the important thing is budget, not speed or ease.

                          ~TDQ

                        4. bermudagourmetgoddess RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 05:54 AM

                          I fell asleep when she was making the dough! I guess it didn't captivate me enough!

                          Not to mention with the food cost in Bermuda, one can not cook a meal for 4 for $10.00!!!

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                            lscanlon RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 08:50 AM

                            I wasn't overly impressed with any particular contestant on this season of NFNS, so for me, Melissa was as good as any. I was quite impressed with her show. She was at ease, articulate, entertaining, and interesting. I'll watch again.

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                              jujuthomas RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 09:13 AM

                              I'm hoping my dvr caught it yesterday, forgot to check last night. :)

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                                HabaneroJane RE: jujuthomas Aug 10, 2009 02:01 PM

                                i randomly met a FN exec who told me that they think Melissa is totally Stepford but they LOVE her.

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                                libgirl2 RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 02:09 PM

                                I liked the show, but doubted all of it could cost $10. Yes there are some ingredients you might have on hand, but that cheese is $$$. Still I was drooling for that torte and am considering making that when it gets colder out. Might try swiss cheese though. I did that with a RR recipe for stuffed potatoes and no one complained.

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                                  Claudette RE: Kajikit Aug 10, 2009 02:32 PM

                                  My husband just lost his job, again, so I do strictly budget our meals, but still: I wish FN wouldn't tie Melissa's hands with the $10 concept - so limiting. I wouldn't mind a show about Fantasy Meals so I could live vicariously! (I guess that's what Iron Chef is all about.)

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                                    rocks67 RE: Claudette Aug 10, 2009 02:59 PM

                                    I wish they would have stuck with the original concept. A much better fit for the network, especially since they started that other 5 Ingredients show about a week before Melissa's debuted, and Sandra's Low Class Low Budget Meals.

                                    Bob Tuschman and Susie Fogelson need to oh, so go away at least for a little while. Honestly, I think I'd be more interested in hearing what BROOKE had to say on all of the finalists, LOL.

                                    Still, I was rooting for Melissa, so I'm definitely giving her a chance.

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                                      libgirl2 RE: Claudette Aug 10, 2009 04:11 PM

                                      I do agree, I don't want to be watching and saying "no way this costs $10", I don't mind budget shows, but lets be realistic.

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                                        chowser RE: Claudette Aug 11, 2009 07:52 AM

                                        I agree--or they could do an average of $10 a day, eg. start w/ a roast chicken, use leftover the next, make a stock for another day, etc. The first day would be more but subsequent would be less. I think they could use a "reuse recycle" ingredients show. Creative re-use of leftovers.

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                                          Annie S. RE: chowser Aug 18, 2009 11:17 PM

                                          That's a really good idea, chowser. That would be a show I'd check out for sure.

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                                            Axalady RE: chowser Aug 24, 2009 04:51 PM

                                            "I think they could use a "reuse recycle" ingredients show."

                                            They already have that - Quick Fix Meals with Robin Miller.

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                                          jujuthomas RE: Kajikit Aug 20, 2009 11:03 AM

                                          I watched her second episode last night and got some tips.... I liked her suggestion to grab some specialty olives from the olive bar if your market has one, but to use regular olives if that's what you can find. very accessible.
                                          I thought the meatball dish she made looked very tasty, and I liked how the dishes seemed to flow together well.

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                                            QSheba RE: Kajikit Aug 24, 2009 09:32 PM

                                            I liked her show. I think if you look back on the early shows of other FN "stars" (e.g. Giada ) some of them are *terrible* and look very stiff on camera...I think Melissa looked great for her first few shows. As far as her food/culinary "POV"- it seems like she is demonstrating some "gourmet" type foods that can be done inexpensively- Gruyere, bacon, and potato tarte or the apple-lemon granita. I think that it's reasonable to expect that someone has the pantry basics- cinnamon, olive oil, flour, etc. Also, go to the deli counter at pretty much any supermarket and you can buy cheese by the 1/4lb or bacon by the slice.

                                            I think some people like to just bash FN for being FN-particularly hosts that are not professionally-trained chefs....and even if they are (e.g. Bobby Flay) people STILL find reasons to complain (about his shows, how he's a sellout, how his restaurants aren't that great, blah blah blah)... Some people are just never happy. People seem to forget that there is a large (not all experienced cooks or Chowhounds) group of people watching TV. Some people want gourmet/complex/time-consuming/exotic shows on all the time and that's just not realistic for most people. I love to cook and when I'm making food on the weekends I'll pull out The Zuni Cafe Cookbook, or Julia Child or bake focaccia from scratch - but after a long day of work- some of the "quick" solutions on FN are nice for a refreshing change to my usual repertoire.

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                                              Phaedrus RE: QSheba Aug 25, 2009 08:05 AM

                                              The fact is that the criteria for who wins on TNFNS is personality driven rather than food driven. No, I would rather not watch people who are wooden and with no personality, but most of the winners are barely competent in explaining the whys and the hows. I realize not everyone can be Harold McGee or Shirley Corriher, but if you want to help out the home coiok, it is better to show them the simple recipes and also tell them why it is OK do certain things and not others because it will give them a clue as to the real reasons why cooks do certain things a certain way.

                                              They actually had the perfect home cook show on with Sarah Moulton because she had the cooking chops and the personality to keep people interested. but they canned her and they have been trying to find someone to replace her ever since, IMHO.

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                                                rozz01 RE: Phaedrus Aug 25, 2009 02:18 PM

                                                I would of loved a Shirley Corriher show....

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                                                Jwsel RE: QSheba Aug 25, 2009 11:59 AM

                                                Out of curiosity, what cooking show on Food Network has "gourmet/complex/time consuming/exotic" cooking? Other than repeats of the long-ended Emeril show during the week and, perhaps, a few episodes of Ina Garten's show, I don't see it. The new shows that air on Sunday almost all seem designed for people who want "quick" solutions.

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                                                  melly RE: Jwsel Aug 25, 2009 01:06 PM

                                                  Even Julia Child only had 30 minutes to make things on her show. You never saw her making uber complex meals...even though Mastering the Art of French Cooking has many! I know, I've made a few and some take two days to make...and lots of pots n pans!

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                                                    Normandie RE: melly Aug 26, 2009 01:34 AM

                                                    Have to chuckle regarding the pots and pans. I have one of the earlier editions of *Mastering the Art* (from 1967) and in those versions at least (haven't seen the newer ones), JC, Louisette Bertholle and Simone Beck include the clear instruction in the Foreword not to spare the pans, LOL. It always stuck with me, and I went to look it up after reading your post. They wrote, "A pot-savor is a self-hampering cook." :-)

                                                    Then they go on to advise essentially what my mother drilled into my head at the earliest possible age: "Clean as you go." My mother was the quintessential Julia Child/James Beard 1960s groupie. :-D

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                                                melly RE: Kajikit Aug 25, 2009 01:03 PM

                                                I liked it okay..really did. I don't like the name either...it is stupid, and not true.

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                                                  LulusMom RE: melly Aug 25, 2009 02:27 PM

                                                  I kinda like the show too, but agree that the name is stupid and not true. Those meatballs looked pretty great.

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                                                  elvirabarker RE: Kajikit Jan 24, 2010 10:58 PM

                                                  I think her food is better than Sandra Lee's. I hope that this is not damming with faint praise.

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                                                    jeanmarieok RE: elvirabarker Feb 6, 2010 10:08 AM

                                                    Her food might be better than Sandra Lee's, but it's not a great show. The same things I disliked about her as a contestant bother me on her show.

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                                                      SmartCookie RE: jeanmarieok Feb 22, 2010 05:44 AM

                                                      I caught her show yesterday on Tunisian meatballs and couscous; I have to say it looked fabulous and I could practically smell it with the inclusion of so many wonderful spices, but I have to point out she used $5 worth of spices that weren't included in the meal price.

                                                      Now if I could only afford to have caviar and foie gras on hand at all times, I would be able to make way awesome $10 meals.

                                                      I'm not dissing her, but the title is a misnomer.

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                                                        runwestierun RE: SmartCookie Feb 23, 2010 10:45 AM

                                                        I agree that the title is a misnomer. I really like how she cooks, though, and I sense that she is trying to find a way around the horrible way that the FN has restricted her talents. Can you imagine winning a network TV show only to learn that your show title is going to be $10 Meals? That's fodder for a recurring nightmare. I would love to see what she could do without the ridiculous restriction.

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                                                        coney with everything RE: jeanmarieok Feb 23, 2010 04:06 AM

                                                        "Her food might be better than Sandra Lee's" reminds me of Jon Stewart's line to Bill O'Reilly, calling him the sanest voice at Fox News which was like being the thinnest kid at fat camp :)

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                                                          rozz01 RE: coney with everything Feb 24, 2010 04:08 PM

                                                          hmmm... I think Ina is the thinnest kid at that fat camp...

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