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peril Aug 7, 2009 03:01 PM

I have searched the web but can't come up with any complete explanation of the following. Is smoking allowed at restaurant tables that are outside on patios, or at a bar that is "outside" but has a compete roof over it?

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    RGR RE: peril Aug 7, 2009 03:03 PM

    Since this board covers several states, which one are you asking about?

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      peril RE: RGR Aug 7, 2009 03:43 PM

      Sorry, I mean for NJ

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        RGR RE: peril Aug 7, 2009 09:19 PM

        When it comes to al fresco dining, afaik, the NJ law does not ban smoking, so the decision is up to the individual restaurant. Since we are vehemently opposed to dining where there is any smoking, the few restaurants we go to that have outdoor dining do not permit smoking.

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      bfl13 RE: peril Aug 7, 2009 04:14 PM

      I believe that it all depends on the proximity of the outdoor space to doors and/or windows that lead into the main areas of the restaurant that would be non-smoking.

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        peril RE: peril Aug 8, 2009 05:48 AM

        My reason for asking is that my wife and I went to lunch at The Inlet Cafe on Friday. As we were finishing our lunch and waiting for the check I got a whiff of cigarette smoke. Glancing around we noticed two women two tables away both smoking. Since we were leaving I didn't have a need to ask if it was allowed, but if it had not been breezy I could see it being bothersome if we had just arrived. As we were leaving I noticed someone in the "outside" bar also smoking. So, naturally I was just curious and tried to find the answer on the internet when we got home.

        1. njfreqflyer RE: peril Aug 9, 2009 10:03 AM

          In NJ, it looks like the law applies only to indoor public restaurants and bars.

          Notable exclusions with respect to public spaces:
          - smoking is prohibited in all indoor and outdoor areas at all elementary and secondary schools;
          - the law does not apply to cigar bars / lounges (deriving at least 15% annual revenue from on-site related sales);
          - the law does not apply to tobacco retail establishments;
          - the law does not apply to casino facilities above a certain size;
          - the law permits hotels and motels to allow smoking in up to 20% of the guest rooms

          See: http://www.nj.gov/health/ctcp/smokefr...

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