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beerlovingmom Aug 6, 2009 07:22 AM

I'm headed to Philadelphia and am searching for relatively casual dinner places with moderate to high prices and a selection of local beers on tap. I love good food and good craft beers. I will have my 5 and 11 year old children, but have no problem bringing them to restaurants that aren't necessarily considered "kid-friendly" (ie. Planet Hollywood and other yicky chains). We are staying downtown -- a few nights in the Sheraton in Society Hill and a few nights at the Windsor Suite near Logan Square.

THANKS !

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    Bigley9 Aug 6, 2009 09:35 AM

    Phila is big on gastropubs and has a great local beer scene. Try Standard Tap, Pub and Kitchen, Royal Tavern, the Ugly American, N Third (north third), Monks, Good Dog, to name a few. A Search of this board for gastropub yields many results. Search for local beer will do the same. Enjoy!

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      beerlovingmom Aug 7, 2009 07:31 AM

      This sounds great! I love gastropubs! I'm super limited on my research time -- could you let me know which of these suggestions are in downtown, or an easy public transportation trip from downtown. We will not have a car. THANKS!

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        Bigley9 Aug 7, 2009 07:47 AM

        Standard Tap and N Third are in Northern Liberties - 2nd street and 3rd streets respectively, about 1 mile north of the sheraton Society Hill, Pub and Kitchen is 19th and Lombard, Good Dog is 15th and Samson and Monk's is 16th and Spruce - all three probably about a half mile from the Windsor Suites. Royal tavern is at 7th, Carpenter St and Passyunk Ave in Bella Vista - probably about 1 mile from the sheraton - and near the Italian Market which can be a fun foodie stroll (9th st between christian and Federal). The Ugly American is on front street (that would be first street if you know our grid) and is about a mile due south of the Sheraton. So, most of these are walkable, especially if you are being tourists in between, although there is a "gap" of boring-ness heading north to Northern liberties (not unsafe in any way tho). All of them are simple inexpensive cab rides.

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          beerlovingmom Aug 7, 2009 08:41 AM

          thanks again! Do you know which allow children? I'm especially interested in the Pub and Kitchen and Good Dog.

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            Bigley9 Aug 7, 2009 08:47 AM

            none of these "bar" children, Good Dog has an upstairs dining room so you wouldn't have to sit in the bar room and Pub and Kitchen has outdoor seating as well. I wouldn't take children to either at 10 on a Friday! We allow no smoking in Phila so most of our gastro pubs accommodate children well

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      rocknroll52 Aug 6, 2009 11:14 AM

      not too far from the Sheraton Society hill:

      National Mechanics
      Triumph Brewing Company

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        harpzzz Aug 6, 2009 12:03 PM

        GREAT BELGIUM & many many others - many - and excellent food: Monks Cafe, center city, Monks Belgian Cafe. reasonable proces. Mussels are outacontrol.

        www.monkscafe.com

        264 S 16th St
        Philadelphia, PA 19102-3357
        (215) 545-7005
        Get directions

        off the beaten path - Yards in Manayunk

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          Buckethead Aug 7, 2009 06:07 AM

          Yards hasn't been located in Manayunk for years and years.

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          phillyheel1 Aug 6, 2009 12:34 PM

          the dark horse pub in head house square (2nd and south st.) real near your first hotel. great food good beer selection. nice bar. I used to bring my newborn their all the time when I lived in society hill.

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            beerlovingmom Aug 7, 2009 06:00 AM

            Thanks for all the great suggestions! What about brewpubs? Could someone rattle off a list of their favorites in or very near downtown (we won't have a car). thanks.

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              Buckethead Aug 7, 2009 06:23 AM

              Assuming that by brewpub you mean a pub that brews its own beer, there aren't any excellent ones in the city. Not far from your hotel in society hill (as rocknroll52 mentioned) is Triumph, their beers are decent but nothing extraordinary. Ditto Nodding Head (I haven't been there in a while but have always been underwhelmed by their house beers). Yards is probably the city's best brewery. They don't have a brewpub on premises that serves their beer, but you can get it at lots of bars in the city. Dock Street makes some good beers (and some not so good), but they're located far away from where you'll be. Another place that brews their own is Earth, Bread, and Brewery. I've never been there but the brewmaster's previous brewery was Heavyweight, their beers were great so I suspect EBB's are too. Like Dock Street, it's too far away unless you want to take a cab, and even that would be pricey.

              Philadelphia Brewing Company (formed by the former owners of the Yards brewery, but not the brewer of Yards) makes quite a few slightly above-average beers that can be had at many places around the city.

              Some excellent local brewers that can be found on tap all over the city include Victory (Downingtown, PA), Stoudts (Adamstown, PA), Dogfish Head (Lewes, DE), Legacy (Reading, PA), Troegs (Harrisburg, PA), probably one or two others I'm forgetting.

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                beerlovingmom Aug 7, 2009 08:03 AM

                Great detailed nfo Buckethead -- thanks! Could you direct me to a few of your favorite establishments with some of the local beers you mention on tap AND good food AND allows children AND a walk or easy public transportation from where we'll be staying. THANKS !!!!

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                  barryg Aug 8, 2009 01:09 AM

                  The place you want to go to is Standard Tap. They only serve local draft beers and the food is great. It's accessible via public trans but not super close to the stop so not so easy for a visitor. Take a cab (will be $10 max), you won't be disappointed.

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                    rocknroll52 Aug 8, 2009 05:34 AM

                    Definitely don't try to walk to the Standard Tap, as mentioned above. I believe they have a rooftop deck. The food is very good. worth a cab ride.

                    Earth Bread & Brewery is very suitable for kids and accessible by train, I think, but really it's kind of far out of the way. They serve flatbread pizzas, if that appeals to you. They have both house brewed beers and local guest beers.

                    The above options are great but not so convenient.

                    Another place that hasn't been mentioned is Bridgid's in Fairmount. A bit of a long walk from the Windsor Suites, but you could also cab it. A neighborhood haunt with a good selection of local beers and food.

                    I don't think you'll really go wrong with any of the suggested places, there's really no best one. Have a good time and report back!

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                      john_salmon Aug 8, 2009 09:39 PM

                      "The place you want to go to is Standard Tap"

                      Yes, yes, yes.

                      Based on your original post, this is absolutely the first place to go.

                      It's not super-close to your hotel, but the beer selection is great and local, the food is understated but superb and it is kid-friendly.

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              Bigley9 Aug 9, 2009 07:46 PM

              So I've been ruminaiting on this and thinking, Fork at 3rd and Market and Southwark at fourth and bainbridge....very good food and a pretty great beer rotation

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                jkahn2010 Aug 11, 2009 12:57 PM

                I'd recommend Eulogy Tavern on 136 Chestnut Street. It has very good mussels, fries, and burgers, and an awesome beer selection both draft and bottle. I just went there last night and definitely enjoyed myself.

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                  lcarter Aug 12, 2009 10:36 AM

                  Standard Tap is definitely worth a cab!!

                  1. hollyd Aug 12, 2009 01:26 PM

                    I'd agree that Royal Tavern is a nice (20 minute?) walk from the Sheraton, and Good Dog would be a short walk from Logan Square. In West Philly there IS Dock Street Brewery. Fabulous pizza and they brew their own. You'd probably want to drive/cab, but you could also take the 34 trolley (Green Line) from city hall to 50th street. Standard Tap is really yummy if you're headed up that way, but it is kind of far from both of your hotels.

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                      barryg Aug 12, 2009 09:44 PM

                      Are you kidding? Standard Tap is 3 miles closer to the Sheraton than Dock St--it's only 2 miles away. I agree it is not a pretty walk but it's a less than $10 cab ride. Probably $10 from Logan Square.

                      Of all the places listed, Standard Tap is only place where the food has been consistently as good and interesting as the beer. Sure, Good Dog and Royal Tavern have great burgers but I've had excellent elk steaks, soft shell crabs, and goat curries at Standard Tap.

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                        hollyd Aug 13, 2009 06:37 AM

                        I only included Dock St. because it's a brewery. The bars I listed are all walking distance.

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                      feklar42 Aug 12, 2009 02:04 PM

                      Beneluxx, while not "local" focused, has a fabulous selection and would be walkable from society hill, is near indepndence square, and fun for kids (chocolate fondue). http://www.beneluxx.com/#

                      Some of the other places listed in Old City--National Mechanics (it's definitely a bar, but fine for kids in the day, not sure about night) and Triumph Brewing Company (never been there, but probably the same)--are both in areas that would be walkable for kids from the Sheraton since they are full of sites and parks to rest in. Also from there you can go to the Irish memoral and the parks on the river.

                      Logan Square is harder for me to think of anything unique. Honestly, Philly is such a beertown most bars have a good selection. Pub and Kitchen would be a bit of a walk from there but you can stop and rest the kids in Rittenhouse Square Park.

                      Personally, judging from your description of your time constraints, etc., I wouldn't go to NoLib unless it was a real destination for you. You defintely don't want to walk kids that far and there's not much else to do there.

                      I wouldn't take kids to Good Dog or some of the other places listed after 5PM -- unless they have outdoor seating. I love GD, but ... as an adult there are bars I go to for them to be bars--crowded, noisy, sexy, drunken, not places I want to trip over kids--it's bad enough tripping over the 20-somethings. This is not figurative tripping either--the upstairs gets as crowded as down in my experience.

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                        hollyd Aug 12, 2009 03:46 PM

                        Logan Square: Kite and Key! Callowhill and 19th. Just thought of that.

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                        LPhila Aug 13, 2009 09:20 PM

                        Devil's Den at 11th and Elsworth has a great beer selection and generally good food - probably a taxi from either of your locations. They do half-price drafts for happy hour.

                        Also would second Monks, always a good bet for the beer lover.

                        Have not tried it, but we also have Brauhaus Schmidts (sp?) on South and 7th, the new beer garten.. would be walking distance from society hill.

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