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  <id>642295</id>
  <title>Best Black and White cookie??</title>
  <published_at>Wed Aug 05 13:17:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4920374</id>
        <content>I am making my annual mother-daughter trip to NYC sunday with my mom.  She loves black and white cookies and we always get one at dean and deluca. But wheres the best black and white cookie in manhattan? We will be around times square, central park, and soho throughout our trip but are willing to travel elsewhere just for the BEST! Thanks for your help!</content>
        <published_at>Wed Aug 05 13:17:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>1099448</id>
          <name>esullivan14</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4920389</id>
      <content>William Greenberg Desserts
1100 Madison Ave., btwn. 82nd &amp; 83rd Sts.
http://www.wmgreenbergdesserts.com/
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 05 13:21:24 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>271400</id>
        <name>notsochubbychubette</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4920400</id>
      <content>I have passed there several times lately - they seem to be renovating, but I can't tell if they are still open during the renovations, so probably worth calling to check.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 05 13:23:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920389</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4923369</id>
      <content>I was by there again today, and from what I could tell from the cab, the store itself is closed, but they have a temporary store  next door.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 06 12:26:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920400</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4920490</id>
      <content>the ones from William Greenberg are pretty much the quintessential B&amp;W, and the most frequently recommended favorite, but Glaser's is popular as well. everyone's got their opinion. you might want to look at these threads from a few years ago to get a sense of other options and the variations in style &amp; quality:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/388277
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/309324

FWIW, the one at Joyce Bake Shop in Bklyn (Prospect Heights) is supposedly pretty stellar as well.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 05 13:40:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>103920</id>
        <name>goodhealthgourmet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4921599</id>
      <content>Glaser's Bakery,  83rd and First I believe.  Been around forever and make the best black and whites</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 05 20:38:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39137</id>
        <name>swms122456</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4923123</id>
      <content>87th and First</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 06 11:17:28 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4921599</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>66726</id>
        <name>pbjluver</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4926239</id>
      <content>Glaser's is on vacation til the 17th or so. According to the sign, they're baking in the sun.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 10:46:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4921599</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>109533</id>
        <name>GoodGravy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4929900</id>
      <content>I agree - Glaser's is the best I've had.  If you want a fresh, eat now B&amp;W, this is the best.  William Greenberg's is good if you may want to wait (why would you:)).</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 08 21:42:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4926239</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1100243</id>
        <name>nycbklyngirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5033608</id>
      <content>I just had Glaser's b&amp;w for breakfast. I thought it was actually pretty bad. And I really wanted to like it. Ditto for their sugar donuts.

It definitely seemed fresh, but the chocolate side didn't taste like chocolate and the cookie was too doughy.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Sep 16 06:44:14 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4929900</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1105140</id>
        <name>Bone Thug n Hominy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4923102</id>
      <content>http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/447049</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 06 11:11:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10173</id>
        <name>guttergourmet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4925176</id>
      <content>Re-read that, of 2 years ago. Rankings, IMHO, have changed quite a bit. Now I'd put Greenberg's first, and Zaro's is now better than Hot and Crusty, which slipped a lot. Still can't abide Rocco's fruit glaze.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 04:01:44 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4923102</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80872</id>
        <name>addictedtolunch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4923207</id>
      <content>ironically, my favorite black and white is at crumbs, the cupcake chainlet. i hate crumbs usually but their black and white is very cakey and fresh. its like eating a muffin top with frosting. 

id avoid bruno bakery's cookie on laguardia. there's is quite dry. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 06 11:44:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14393</id>
        <name>sam1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4926703</id>
      <content>I like the black and whites at Moishe's on 2nd Ave. They have a bit of lemon in the vanilla and the cookies are thick and cakey. Have yet to go to William Greenberg's but I have heard rave reviews.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 13:30:26 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>41798</id>
        <name>windycity</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4926733</id>
      <content>William Greenberg!!!  I did B&amp;W cookies as my wedding favors and sampled cookies from about 5 NYC bakeries.  William Greenberg is the best.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 13:40:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>273674</id>
        <name>ALB410</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4926811</id>
      <content>Absolutely, without a doubt, hands down THE DONUT PUB on 14th Street and 7th Avenue. AMAZING!!! I just took my cousin from Switzerland. She loved them. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 13:58:40 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19900</id>
        <name>jenhen2</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4927755</id>
      <content>She's right. The Donut Pub presents you with a black and white with a perfect cakelike buttery texture and taste. The icing is not just sweet, but has a rich icing-like flavor. Everything at The Donut Pub is good, but the black and white is exceptional. Greenberg's is good, but not as good as Donut Pub, and Greenberg's is ridiculously expensive. (The honeybuns, however, may be worth the money).</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 20:42:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4926811</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1100038</id>
        <name>Richard123</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4933709</id>
      <content>Oh thank god someone got my back on the Donut Pub!  The B&amp;W boston cream donuts rock too, but the B&amp;W cookies are some of the best I have had.  And the cookies have a great texture, moist inside and the right amount of crispness on the bottom.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 10 12:10:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4927755</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>245272</id>
        <name>Big B</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4935733</id>
      <content>Donut Pub is my favorite as well, a 24-hours place with a perfect black and white? Can't be beat in my opinion, and I've yet to have a bad donut or anything else there.

re: Moishe's, it's good, but only if you like lemon in your cookie, it's too strong for me but someone looking for that is sure to enjoy it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 11 05:21:18 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4933709</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>101627</id>
        <name>fishermb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4927819</id>
      <content>Thanks everybody! Looks like we may spend a whole day trying black and whites all over town</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 07 21:32:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1099448</id>
        <name>esullivan14</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4928534</id>
      <content>Junior's or Zaro's. 
Both have branches in Grand Central Station. 
Both are quite good.

</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 08 09:28:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4927819</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>149592</id>
        <name>iluvcookies</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4929405</id>
      <content>I also like both quite a bit.  I found Junior's particularly tasty the one time I had it.  I've had Zaro's more often.  It's good, but not as good as Junior's, if memory serves me correctly.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 08 16:53:25 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4928534</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>177314</id>
        <name>uwsgrazer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4936427</id>
      <content>William Greenberg all the way.  
Don't even bother with the ones that are sold in that bakery in Grand Central...they're not what a BW cookie is suppose to be (cakey!).

</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 11 09:17:51 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15908</id>
        <name>masha bousha</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4936477</id>
      <content>Dont know where they get them from but I love the ones art Artie's deli. Cake like bottom, and perfect icing.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 11 09:29:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65649</id>
        <name>ellenesk</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4940396</id>
      <content>I am a B&amp;W fanatic and although I'll agree that the Donut Pub and Wm. Greenberg are both pretty good, they don't really excite me; they just don't add up to the ones I used to get growing up in Boston years ago. They are almost always stale in Manhattan!

Recently, however, I discovered an AMAZING!!!! B&amp;W in Bay Ridge. I promise, it's worth a trip. The place is an old and famous Scandinavian bakery (left over from the days when Bay Ridge was predominately populated by Scandinavian seafaring folk). It's called Leske's and is located around 5th ave and 86th street. It has a swedish blue awning.

Fresh, delicious, very caky cookie bottom and creamy finger licking frosting. Very fresh!Take the R train to 86th and 4th ave and walk up 1 block to 55th ave. I'm sure I will be making many visits to this place. Lots of other culinary diversion in this hood, too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 12 11:56:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4920374</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1093618</id>
        <name>Anicca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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