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NYT Article about Reality TV/Hell's Kitchen

jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 06:04 AM

I thought this was interesting... I know many people have commented on how sleep deprived the HK contestants look sometimes! Certainly would explain some contestants dopey-seeming behavior.


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  1. LindaWhit RE: jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 07:36 AM

    Thanks juju - but you linked the 2nd page - the beginning of the article is here:


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    1. re: LindaWhit
      jujuthomas RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2009 08:12 AM

      see... that's what I get for doing stuff before my coffee kicks in! LOL. Thanks for the correction Linda! :)

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        LindaWhit RE: jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 08:29 AM

        I know the feeling, juju. :-)

        It was an interesting article - I'll have to keep the link for future conversations re: WHY was that cheftestant so STUPID and not able to get a very simple piece of fish up to the pass? Ummm, perhaps because they've been awake for 15 hours on only 5 hours of sleep per night the last 7 nights?

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          jujuthomas RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2009 10:01 AM

          DH read this also, and last night during HK kept saying - do you think that person is drunk??? why can't they make that right! lol
          I think sleep deprivation more likely, but who knows.

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            LindaWhit RE: jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 10:19 AM

            I've actually been saying this about Andy - who runs a well-respected restaurant in the South End in Boston. Perhaps he's not been on the line recently, but he seems completely out of place at times....and perhaps this is why. Focus is "off" based on lack of sleep.

      2. re: LindaWhit
        phantomdoc RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2009 08:12 AM


        This leads me to page 1

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          LindaWhit RE: phantomdoc Aug 5, 2009 08:27 AM

          I was using a tinyURL to bring to Page 1 as my understanding is that longer URL addresses screw up for RSS readers. Or RSS feeders. Whatever that is. ;-)

      3. Miss Needle RE: jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 12:08 PM

        Oh yeah. They must be so freakin' tired all the time. Last month, they put up some reality show contestants in the apartment upstairs from me. Around 1A to 2A, I'd start hearing thumping and screaming and smelling a whole bunch of cigarette smoke by my bed (which is next to the window). So I'm sure they were out all day taping and got back super late and probably woke up before I did in the wee hours of the morning. I do wish they were better tenants and realize that other people around them were trying to go to sleep. Thankfully the taping took only about a month.

        I think that would be the main reason I'd never sign up for a reality show -- well, that and you guys can be harsh! I'd probably mumble something stupid in my sleep-deprived state and will probably be cast as the Lovely/Lacey of the show. ; )

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          LindaWhit RE: Miss Needle Aug 5, 2009 12:18 PM

          Now that has to suck (having them show up so late). Any idea what type of show it was? Or were you signed to an NDA? ;-)

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            Miss Needle RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2009 12:22 PM

            Based on the what a lot of contestants looked like, I would say it was Project Runway. He he. No NDA. But I was in the elevator with a lot of production people and they were talking about who is getting eliminated, etc. I was the only non-production person in the elevator. One woman looked at me and said "yellow." Then everybody shut up. I'm still wondering if "yellow" was a code word or they were referring to the fact that I was Asian.

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              jujuthomas RE: Miss Needle Aug 5, 2009 12:24 PM

              i'd bet it was a poorly disguised code for "oops, we shouldn't be talking about this in front of someone who isn't on the team!"

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                LindaWhit RE: Miss Needle Aug 5, 2009 12:28 PM

                ROFLMAO! Oh, I'm sorry for laughing, but OMG, the code word coinciding with a poor reference to your ethnicity is pretty funny!

                You have to wonder if any of them realized it later on.

                1. re: Miss Needle
                  soupkitten RE: Miss Needle Aug 5, 2009 12:53 PM

                  Miss Needle, that sucks!!!

                  i hate to open this can of worms, but it was probably a "red light, yellow light, green light" type of safeword reference, that you hear sometimes around media folks-- red light = stop whatever you are doing immediately (maybe one of the contestants is right behind you). green means go-- talk about whatever, you are "safe", keep doing whatever it is you are doing. "yellow" would mean danger, risk, edit yourself, outsider present, etc. interestingly, i believe media folks borrowed the "safeword" concept from folks in porn/s&m:


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                    LindaWhit RE: soupkitten Aug 5, 2009 12:58 PM

                    So the Project Runway production crew used to work in porn? ;-) (can't wait to see how fast that rumor runs around the internet! LOL)

                    1. re: LindaWhit
                      KTinNYC RE: LindaWhit Aug 5, 2009 02:34 PM

                      It wouldn't be a completely absurd idea. The segment producers for these shows don't make that much money.


                      1. re: KTinNYC
                        LindaWhit RE: KTinNYC Aug 5, 2009 04:26 PM

                        WOW. $500 a week for a PA. You've REALLY got to want to get into the business if you stick with the "legitimate" film business.

                    2. re: soupkitten
                      Miss Needle RE: soupkitten Aug 6, 2009 06:20 AM

                      THanks for the explanation. That totally makes sense!

                    3. re: Miss Needle
                      Caitlin McGrath RE: Miss Needle Aug 5, 2009 06:23 PM

                      Not unless PR has shifted production back to NY from LA.

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                        Miss Needle RE: Caitlin McGrath Aug 6, 2009 06:23 AM

                        I have a feeling they did -- unless it's another reality show like the Fashion Show. They did tape PR at our building for the first few seasons and then switched to another place for the last two. It is possible they came back.

                        Why can't they tape Top Chef here? : (

                2. Shane Greenwood RE: jujuthomas Aug 5, 2009 06:00 PM

                  Interesting article and totally not surprising about how contrived and staged the "reality" shows are. I got caught in the middle of filming during an episode of Amazing Race at an airport in Argentina. The whole thing was a set up. They were directing them to run around like they were in a super hurry and all trying to beat each other. Then they all settled in at the gate to wait for the flight with the rest of us. Then when we landed, they staged more running around before gathering them together to get ready for the next scene. Of course when the episode aired they looked all frantic and in a rush.

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