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NYChristopher Jul 27, 2009 11:59 PM

I am moving to a place around the corner from Termini Brothers on 8th.

For those who know the area, what should I be hitting? I must admit, most of my shopping in the past was done north of Washington.

Thanks!

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  1. bluehensfan RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 04:07 AM

    Termini's is great for cannolis, raspberry pound cake (in the summer), almond souse and nirvana pastries (in the winter), dead bones around halloween, and bunny cakes at Easter.

    In your area, be sure to check out Bebe's BBQ on 9th St. in the Italian Market area. It's by far the best in town!

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      barryg RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 06:29 AM

      You've moved into a great neighborhood, congrats!

      Mr. Joe's Cafe across from Termini's (same owner) is amazing for a red gravy lunch. Complimentary wed wine and Cannoli is included. Great homemade traditional American-Italian Food.
      Cosmi's for hoagies and maybe cheesesteaks (I don't love their steaks but a lot of people do).
      Franco Luigi's for pizza and delivery Italian food--their gravy and meatballs are excellent and there is not better pizza delivery except for..
      Slice, great thin crust pizza. They deliver but better to eat there.
      Marra's for sitdown pizza. Salad is fine there but the rest of the menu is poor IMO. They deliver but the pizza is much better right out of the oven. Try ordering it well done.
      POPE for going out for a beer. Excellent beer list, cheap decent food, nice atmosphere and outdoor seating. Be warned, on weekend nights it gets very crowded with hipsters.
      1601 for a beer and pretty good bar good. Less crowded than POPE and also has outdoor seating.
      Cantina for hip gastropub atmosphere, good margaritas, good gringo and foodie-ized Mexican fare (though food can be hit or miss).
      Tre Scalini for upscale Italian, BYOB.
      Le Virtu for upscale Italian, not BYOB.
      Pesto for Italian, nice but not as upscale as the two above, BYOB.
      Vincenzo's for casual, authentic South Philly lunch counter.
      Nam Phuong for superb Vietnamese food that is very cheap.
      Pho Ha for great Pho.
      Ba Le for great Bahn Mi.
      Brew/Ultimo Coffee for the best coffee in Philly.
      Cellini's for Italian grocery like olives, cheese, fresh bread. Not quite the selection of Di Bruno's or Claudio's but very good and much cheaper.
      Artisan Boulanger Patissier for baguette and croissant.
      Bitar's for middle eastern grocery.

      Whew!

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      600 Washington Ave, Philadelphia, PA 19147

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        mazza3 RE: barryg Jul 28, 2009 08:49 AM

        barryg nailed it i must say, but forgot about cafe de laos across the street from nam phuong and la lupe at 9th and federal. nam phuong has better pho that pho hoa, but that's just my opinion.

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          coolgeek RE: barryg Aug 9, 2009 11:53 AM

          er, when was the last time you were in Cellini's? I was really looking forward to checking the place out. They had one bowl of olives. The rest of the bowls were filled with dust

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            barryg RE: coolgeek Aug 10, 2009 06:34 AM

            No, it's been a while. What a shame. If they stepped up their game they could really do well with all the gentrification coming to E Passyunk. Oh well, there is a new gourmet market opening up soon. In the meantime, Bitar's sells good olives are pretty reasonable prices.

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            NYChristopher RE: barryg Aug 10, 2009 04:23 PM

            Hit Artisan Boulanger Patissier TWICE this weekend. Where have THESE baguette's been my whole life. Better than anything I got, well, anywhere. Chewy, tangy, sour ... and a steal at $1.75 For those who have not yet been ... GO!

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              Philly Ray RE: NYChristopher Aug 10, 2009 04:46 PM

              Wait til you have one with a bowl of mussels...sigh

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                Buckethead RE: NYChristopher Aug 10, 2009 06:53 PM

                Ask for the sourdough baguette if you haven't already. He doesn't make them all the time, but they're the best bread I've found in the city.

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                  Bigley9 RE: NYChristopher Aug 11, 2009 10:15 AM

                  oh and his croissant!

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                JanR RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 06:55 AM

                Littlefish! Tiny, wonderful, byob.

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                  micreynolds RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 08:24 AM

                  don't forget about Benna's at 8th and Wharton, my favorite coffee shop. also - in addition to everything barryg mentioned:

                  plaza girabaldi - IMHO the best mexican spot, very cheap but authentic (on washington, between 9th and 10th)
                  cochon - french BYO more on the expensive side but worth it (on passyunk around 6th)
                  MR. MARTINO'S - the BEST, I repeat, the BEST italian BYO. has the most charming atmosphere and is the most tasty of all italian spots in the city! (on passyunk between tasker and moore i think - opposite of cantina)

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                    barryg RE: micreynolds Jul 28, 2009 08:34 AM

                    I like Benna's but I always felt out of place there as I don't have tattoos or kids ;-). Their second location, B2 @ Passyunk & Dickenson is nice too and it is larger.
                    Re: coffee shops, Black & Brew is nice also, but since Ultimo opened I always go there--the coffee is orders of magnitude better than these spots. But Benna's, B2 & B&B are good for sandwiches, bagel, smoothies, etc.

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                      micreynolds RE: barryg Jul 29, 2009 07:01 AM

                      well, i don't have tattoos or children (thank god), and i enjoy bennas!

                      also - i am partial to cosmi's for my cheesesteaks/other assorted hoagies, however...chickies on 10th and federal also deserves an honorable mention. their 'chickie special' is fantastic.

                  2. NYChristopher RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 09:45 AM

                    Wow you all are great. I know a few of these from personal experience (e.g., Mr. Joe's, Marra's) but wanted to ask one question before anything else: as someone who thinks Pho 75 on Washington is the bomb, how does Pho Ha compare? Or Nam Phuong?

                    Also, does Black and Brew sell beans? I'm an Anthony's loyalist, but it would be great to have a place in the area to go to from time to time.

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                    Pho 75
                    1122 Washington Ave, Philadelphia, PA 19147

                    Anis Cafe and Bistro
                    2974 Grandview Ave NE, Atlanta, GA 30305

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                      barryg RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 09:57 AM

                      Pho 75 is good; I like Pho Ha a little better (not to be confused with Pho Hoa on 11th, which is also decent). Pho Ha also has a slightly larger menu, with summer rolls and Bun. Nam Phuong pho is great; probably as good as Pho Ha but Nam Phuong is a bit more formal and is a restaurant with a full menu. Pho Ha is a quick Pho joint, like Pho 75.

                      For anything coffee related, go to Ultimo. The beans they use and sell are Counter Culture and very fresh. B&B does sell La Colombe beans.

                    2. hollyd RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 12:16 PM

                      Little Fish.
                      Cochon.
                      Sabrinas.
                      Bitars.
                      Pho 75.
                      Bebe's for BBQ.
                      Plaza Garibaldi for Mexican on Washington.
                      SARCONES for sandwiches. Yes.
                      there's some good pizza around but when I lived there I always ordered from Gianfanco.
                      And lastly, I will be beaten for saying so, but I love me some Villa di Roma.

                      1. thehungrything RE: NYChristopher Jul 28, 2009 07:01 PM

                        i like Taqueria Los Taquitos de Puebla for tacos al pastor.

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                          Clobberella RE: thehungrything Jul 29, 2009 08:46 AM

                          Seconded! It is a hole in the wall, but they have the best mexican I've tasted in Philly.

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                          wordbond RE: NYChristopher Jul 29, 2009 04:34 AM

                          I saw no mention of either bibou[1009 S 8th st] or l'angolo[1415 porter st]. Both are very good....french and italian byob's

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                            feklar42 RE: NYChristopher Jul 31, 2009 02:35 PM

                            Just to round out the Passyunk Row list, I actually am fond of Michael's for brunch--it's nice to walk down with my dog and sit and watch the parade of people. And I also like Paradiso--high end Italian with a great wine by the glass selection. Again they have outdoor seating. And there is a capo giro between the two.

                            I've found Nam Phoung hit and miss, I now have 3 dishes that I find reliably good there, but I've tried a number of things I've been indifferent to. It's probably sacriligious to admit this on a foodie board, but I actually like the 'less authentic' or slightly more french Vietnamese places. I do wish I liked seafood enough to try some of their sea dishes. There's one where they bring out a portable grill and all sorts of seafood that looks awesome. The Laotian place across from Nam Phoung is very good. Devil's Den has an astounding beer list, but mediocre food. And El Jarocho on 13th has good mexican--not tex mex (so if you're looking for ceddar or chili or taco salads, it won't make you happy).

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                              Ali RE: feklar42 Aug 9, 2009 12:44 PM

                              I'd say that there's nothing wrong with not liking Nam Phuong and prefering a less authentic, etc. spot - food is personal; nothing sacriligeous about it. (Besides, the now-uber-popular banh mi is pretty French, nothing slightly about it.) I'd guess that you like (or would like?) Vietnam Palace in Chinatown? Frankly, for all this board's raving about Nam Phuong, I'm just not a huge fan. Philly just doesn't have the same Vietnamese food scene as CA or TX, so it's just not worth the hike for me - if I'm in S. Philly for food, it's Claudio's, D'Angelo's, and the roast pork stall inside the market at 11th & Washington.

                              OP: As far as I can tell, no one has yet recommended Claudio's and I think it deserves a mention. Best customer service and great selection. I LOVE that place (even if I'm "relegated" to the CC DiBruno's these days). Between that and D'Angelo's, it's a fantastic neighborhood.

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                                NYChristopher RE: Ali Aug 10, 2009 04:21 PM

                                Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa ... there's a roast pork stall INSIDE the market at 11h & Washington? How have I missed this? Where IS it?

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                                  Ali RE: NYChristopher Aug 10, 2009 04:56 PM

                                  It's the Chinese-style roast pork (as you might have guess from that market being Vietnamese/Chinese) with the delicious crunchy skin - I'm sucker for that skin. The stall in just inside. Walk in, turn towards the right where the veggies are, and you should run into the stall. The guy's really nice. (I don't know how much English he speaks, though ...) Better than anything in Chinatown, IMO.

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                                    NYChristopher RE: Ali Aug 10, 2009 09:27 PM

                                    Oh right, I know who you're talking about. Funny, I never tried them. I'm going to have to obviously.

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                                  feklar42 RE: Ali Aug 12, 2009 01:19 PM

                                  Yes, I like Vietnam <Palace?> which ever one is on the west side. Both are fairly similar IMO, but I like the one that has the vegetarian fish sauce for the bun.

                                  I live around the corner from NP, so I go there periodically. Things I found good:
                                  1. Fried Tofu--better than any agedofu I've had anywhere else.
                                  2. Country Style Beef Cubes--better than any other Vietnamese place I've been.
                                  3. The Pho, though I find this is fairly similar to other places.
                                  4. Some of their salad rolls are good too.

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                                    hollyd RE: Ali Aug 12, 2009 03:48 PM

                                    My favorite pho place is the place next to Nam Phouong in the WIng PHat Plaza (closer to Washington Ave). What's that one called?

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                                      barryg RE: hollyd Aug 12, 2009 09:38 PM

                                      It's Pho 75.

                                      Re: Nam Phuong, some of my favorite things on the menu:
                                      The Banh Huo, specifically the one with the grape leaf stuffed with meatballs, shrimp on sugarcane, and grilled pork. Banh Hoi is the platters served with the vermicelli, basil, and rice paper that you roll yourself.
                                      Clam with black beam sauce
                                      Sweet & Sour whole fried fish of the day
                                      All of the soups, they have a whole page of selection besides Pho (try finding this at Vietnam in Chinatown)
                                      Chinese Broccoli with garlic -- order this along side anything, it's delicious.

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                                        feklar42 RE: barryg Aug 17, 2009 06:04 AM

                                        I do wish I liked seafood more--I've seean numerous things at NP that looked fun and interesting, but.... I've been working my way into eating fish, but so far I seem to only like the meatier types (tuna, marlin, swordfish). I'm also ok with the really light white fish like Tilapia, but sea bass and trout didn't work for me and I can't seem to eat shellfish at all. I barely kept crab down, had to spit lobster out, and shrimp is just unpleasant to me.

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                                  bonappetite RE: NYChristopher Aug 11, 2009 04:23 AM

                                  Try Bibou, a new French BYOB, Chef Camel and his wife Charlotte are lovely and food is superb. He trained in France, then with Daniel Boulud and Le Bec here in Philly. Prixe fixe menu on Sunday nights, full menu Wed thru Sat. Delicious!

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                                    lxc191 RE: bonappetite Aug 17, 2009 07:29 AM

                                    I second the Bibou suggestion - fabulous dinner there last weekend. The place is tiny but somehow doesn't feel too cramped. Everything we had was delicious and we will definitely be back. I have a feeling it will be tough to get a table there after a few more weeks of people experiencing it.

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