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kimberleyblue Jul 16, 2009 05:11 PM

Does anyone know a butcher or store that sells kobe beef in Montreal? I can't seem to find it anywhere!

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    bigfellow Jul 16, 2009 05:20 PM

    Are you talking REAL Kobe beef 神戸ビーフ, from Hyōgo Prefecture. Or the Kobe Style beef commonly found in the US and Toronto?

    1. carswell Jul 16, 2009 05:36 PM

      Most recently discussed here:

      Kobe beef in Montreal?
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/457338

      Don't know if the situation has changed in the interim.

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        maisonbistro Jul 17, 2009 04:57 AM

        I just saw Kobe beef last Sat or Sun at the butcher counter of the 5 Saisons on Greene. It was somere in the $199/kg range if memory serves. That's as close as I'll come to Kobe beef for now.

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          cherylmtl Jul 17, 2009 06:55 AM

          I bought some when they first started carrying it (and it wasn't quite that pricey), and was underwhelmed. I'm always amazed when I see people at 5 Saisons willingly paying $100 for two steaks...

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            bigfellow Jul 17, 2009 12:25 PM

            You have to be careful buying it there as they carry both Kobe Beef and Kobe STYLE Beef.

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              thelonious777 Jul 22, 2009 04:38 AM

              Unless there have been recent changes, to my knowledge imports of beef from Japan into Canada are still banned, so nobody should be selling real Kobe beef. I believe what is sold as Kobe is generally American (or Australian) Wagyu or Wagyu-cross (with Black Angus is not uncommon). American Wagyu does not (in my experience) generally have the fine marbling of real Kobe, although it is quite fatty.
              Also of note is that the Japanese tend to cook with Kobe very differently than we cook with beef in North America, with the result that its fattiness is not unpleasant. A big grilled Kobe beef steak sounds pretty disgusting to me, but to each their own.

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                BLM Jul 22, 2009 05:51 AM

                You can definitely get real Kobe beef(coming from Japan) in Toronto(I've seen it in Toronto). Yes, until about a year or so ago, it was banned in Canada.

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                  bigfellow Jul 22, 2009 07:26 AM

                  I've been buying it (the real thing) for the last 2 years. That was in Calgary.

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                    BLM Jul 22, 2009 09:58 AM

                    Then it's the last 2 years(I was being conservative, when I said one year ago).

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          tohtem Jul 20, 2009 01:20 PM

          Boucherie AGA 4927 Jarry E 514-327-7771
          Ask Roger for the real thing
          If you are nice, he will give you some Oxtail consommé to dip it

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            BLM Jul 29, 2009 09:27 AM

            Yeah can I buy a individual Kobe steak to my size? Previously at AGA to get any of their best beef, I had to buy a whole section as a minimum order. That's impractical for individuals unless, people can find 4-5+ people to split the order. To buy a whole section of 'real' Kobe beef, would cost me several thousand dollars.

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            nextguy Jul 7, 2010 12:38 PM

            Hi all,

            I just wanted to reawaken this thread. Costco.ca has been carrying Kobe style from Kobe Beef Classic for a little while now. Strip steaks are 250$ for 8 steaks of 283g which works out to 110$/Kg. That is a very good price for this product. There is also a butcher at the Marche 440 in Laval that sells Kobe Beef Classic for around 175$/Kg (it was a while ago so I am not 100% sure about that price). I purchased a Strip steak from that butcher a while back before Costco started carrying it and did like it. I have also had the real A5 stuff from Japan at Joel Robuchon in Vegas. They are different and I have to say I actually slightly preferred the flavor of the Kobe Beef Classic. The A5 also has good flavor and is more tender but pretty much impossible to get here. Does anyone else know of a purveyor that comes close to Costco.ca's price? It doesn't necessarily have to be from Kobe Beef Classic.

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              mokai Jul 10, 2010 10:57 AM

              Hi all,

              I'm really a beef guy and I have to give out my little secret. Marché village in Brossard, Boucherie L'Entrecote. I've been buying my red meat there since the past 10 years. 3rd generation butchers, they will kindly make up to any special request you have. Just to let you know, if you are real beef eaters, let me explain to you what I do every year.

              La Queue de Cheval dry ages their meats 30-45 days which gives them their extra juiciness and tenderness. At Boucherie L'Entrecote, I buy a whole rib and make them dry age it for 60 to 100 days, I dare you to try the same and taste the difference of the meat. It's crazy !!!

              Oh yea, about classic kobe, they also have it and the price is very good. I personally believe that knowing your butcher has many advantages. If you don't want to pay too much for the meat, try the hanger kobe classic steak, it's actually the butcher's choice of meat, coz you get the authentic taste of the meat.

              From a guy who does not eat FILET MIGNON...ever it's all about the rib eye!

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                nextguy Jul 12, 2010 09:19 AM

                I agree that a good quality, dry aged Angus steak is great. In fact every now and then I age my own in a dedicated fridge at home for 20 days.

                But I am looking specifically for pricing on Wagyu.

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