Olive and Cream Cheese Sandwiches a Baltimore Only Treat?
My grandma used to make them for me, and I see them on the menu at some old school style delis downtown. My question: is this culinary delight a local Baltimore phenom, or is it more widespread?
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I've made these all my life and I'm born and raised in Santa Monica Calif.
don't know where I first had them to want to make them myself.
maybe my love of olives or cream cheese or bread.
I've done black alone green alone or mixed them, any way they're a favorite of mine but family says blech ;:-/ -
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I remember growing up in westchester,ny making names and faces at that strange combo my father liked and I thought was weird and disgusting, 50's and 60's, now I really like it too, another variation, that we use as more of a cocktail spread is cream cheese, anchovy s and anchovy paste and chives, mostly on pumpernickel
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We used to get Kraft Olive pimento spread sandwiches, which was pretty much olives and cream cheese.
That got me wondering if you could still buy it. The olive pimento has been discontinued, the the pimento spread is still available. A little jar for about 4 dollars, which got me checking for a recipe.
I found that it is very popular in the South. There are several variations, but here is what I made taking the stuff I like from each.
8 oz shredded sharp cheddar
4 oz cream cheese
1/4 cup mayo
dash (or2) of hot sauce
a little garlic
a dozen or so cheap pimento stuffed green olivesThrow it in the food processor, blend until a bit creamy.
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It has to be widespread. I ate them in MN, courtesy of my grandmother; I ate them in Ca. courtesy of a friend's (Mid-Atlantic-shore-bred) mother. I ate them as a wee sprout in Oh., because the housekeeper, who was Ky.-born made them for me, and the same mixture was served here in Ca. not many years ago, only not as a sandwich filling but as a dip or scoop for crudite and plain crostini. That version may been thinned w/ mayo, and it came from a friend who was raised in Manhattan. I've also seen many versions in pre-war cookbooks, usually authored by home economists or dieticians.
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As the pack has already spoken and clarified that this was more baby boomer period food than regional food, you won't be surprised to learn that we were eating these sandwiches in suburban Connecticut in the sixties. I'll bet you a nickel that the popularity of the sandwich had to do with magazines like Family Circle and Woman's Day, that were sold alongside Time and Life and Newsweek at supermarket check out counters. Can't you just see in your mind's eye, the strange period foodstyling photo that would go with the recipe?
The sandwich is good, but what makes it really tasty is the way it is seasoned with memories. Which is why, when I saw it on the menu at the Sugarbowl in Scottsdale, Arizona, I simply had to order it.
http://www.sugarbowlscottsdale.com/Su...
Of course, The Sugarbowl itself is a delicious serving of the romance of fifties and sixties retail style. And they also have fantastic ice cream sodas served in glass, on a saucer, with a shot of seltzer on the side!!!
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A former coworker, who was born and raised in Tucson, introduced me to olive and cream cheese samdwiches- around 40 years ago. I still get cravings for them, although these days the bread is much better, to my delight!
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re: EWSflash
My mom bought green pimento-stuffed olives in a variety of forms - whole (since she was a Martini lover - lol!), pre-sliced, & we nearly always had a large jar of what were & still are called "salad olives", which are pimento-stuffed green olives that get squashed or otherwise mangled while being sliced for the more expensive "pre-sliced" olives or while being stuffed for the whole variety.
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Wow. Talk about bringing back forgotten memories! Yes, I did have them growing up in NJ. Now you've got me wanting to make it when I get home. Hope the cream cheese isn't the same color as the olives!
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re: njmarshall55
One of my lunchbox favorites also in NJ late 50s, early 60s. Always black olives, white bread.
Loved black olives because my cousin's pediatrician told his mom to give them to us instead of
candy so we thought of them as treats. Never thought of trying it with green olives but now I
might have to - not on white bread! Must admit I recently put cream cheese on a Wegmans
kalamata roll - probably a subconsciuos throwback to my lunchbox days.
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Sliced green pimento-stuffed olives & cream cheese on white bread were one of my mother's favorite sandwiches to pack for our school lunches during the 50's/60's back in NY.
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re: Bacardi1
What's funny is that I was literally the ONLY person in grade school with what everyone else considered "oddball" sandwiches - Olives & Cream Cheese; Headcheese; Olive & Pimento Loaf; Pimiento Cheese; Salami & Cream Cheese, etc., etc. I always loved my lunches, which is probably a good thing, because I'd never have been able to get anyone to trade with me if I didn't - lol!
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I never tire of these sandwiches. One of these days I'll muster enough self-control to try grilling one before devouring it...
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My father always made them for us. Cream cheese and green Spanish olives with pimientos. His mother made them for him in the 30's & 40's in Massachusetts. She was from Vermont via Quebec, Canada. ? Not sure if she got it from Canada or her town in Massachusetts which was mostly inhabited by Italians.
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This thread has been fun to follow and has inspired a tasty little snack of wheat thins with cream cheese and olives. And, yes my Texas born mother made olive, cream cheese, and pecan tea sandwiches for festive occasions in the early 60's and the combo has appeared at my table in South Texas and New Orleans ever since.
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funny that this topic re-emerged, as i was just talking with one of close friends (who grew up in Massachusetts), and she was saying how her grandmother used to feed her cream cheese and olive sandwiches, and how she thought that that was the it's it of haute cuisine (as a kid).
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They were never around much in Colorado but I have eaten them as little sandwich appetizers before. I have a friend from Michigan who told me about olive burgers and how they are really popular there. He desribed them as not olives mixed into the beef but the olives being on top of the meat. I keep reminding myself to make one one of these days. Perhaps an olive- cream cheese burger would be good?
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re: LorenM
A Michigan-based fast food chain called Hot 'n' Now had an olive burger on their menu, which might be where your friend had them. They basically slapped a dollop of mayo onto the top bun and pressed a handful of sliced green olives (no pimientos) into the mayo, then put it on top of the burger. We had a Hot 'n' Now in my hometown and the double olive burger was my absolute favorite thing on their menu. Sadly, ours closed a few years ago, but there are still a handful of them in Michigan. I make my own at home all the time by stirring chopped green olives into mayo - it's my husband's favorite burger condiment now!
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We grew up on cream cheese and olive sandwiches. My mom has fond memories of taking Amtrak to from Buffalo to Rochester as a girl in the late 50's and ordering cream cheese and olive sandwiches from the the Amtrak restaurant. I have a little farmer's market stand, and I make a cream cheese/olive/scallions/cheddar spread that sells very well, and reminds me of my childhood and those catholic school friday lunches. Kind of an update homage to the past.
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re: jeanmarieok
It was awesome, probably my first "fine dining" experience. This would have been about 1967. We would take the train from DC to Sedalia, MO to visit my grandparents. By 1970 or so, Amtrak took over all passenger service and train travel became a much grittier way to go. They went from white glove service with embossed china to your choice of a stale ham sandwich and a warm soda or going hungry. Looking back, I believe this was the juncture of our decline as a nation. Air travel followed suit with deregulation in the 1980. The greydog is now looking like the way to go. You can grab a bucket of chicken and a pint of bourbon and you're set. The seats are more comfortable, too, and you don't need a reservation. God, this is depressing.
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Not at all. In Southern Illinois, 1930's and 1940's, my grandma made cream cheese, black olive, and chopped pecan sandwiches. They were especially a birthday party item along with "egg & olive" (mashed hard-boiled eggs with sliced stuffed green olives and mayonnaise). I think both of these are best on whole-wheat bread, and both are ace sandwich fillings.
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Can we admit that mixing anything with cream cheese is good??? Cream cheese and pineapple anyone?
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I ate them as a kid in Pennsylvania (outside Philly). My Dad introduced them to me - and he was from Baltimore. But I always thought it was a quirky thing that he came up with. Didn't know it a legit sandwich. My friend and I used to add salami when it was in the fridge. Yum.
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re: schrutefarms
We did a '50s-theme cocktail party once and got a lot of appetizers from James Beard's party-foods book from that era. One of the big faves was salami and cream cheese cornucopias - you cut each salami slice (use the small ones!) from the center out, then form it into a cone and fill that with cream cheese.
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In the 60s/70s, Mom made olive nut tea sandwiches by mixing softened cream cheese, chopped pecans, and chopped pimiento-stuffed green olives and spreading it on white bread with the crusts removed. I have used low-fat and no-fat cream cheese with fine results. I pulse the olives and pecans in the food processor and add cream cheese until it's the desired taste/saltiness and consistency. I've also served it as a spread with crudités and crackers.
Beth, Lexington KY
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Illinois, 1940's, cream cheese with black olives and chopped pecans. Best on whole-wheat bread. But, speaking of olives, in Upstate New York, 1940's, the birthday party sandwich of choice was egg-and-olive (chopped hard-boiled eggs, chopped or sliced pimiento-stuffed green olives, and mayonnaise). Somehow I have dropped the first from my repertory (seems too rich now) but have kept the second---put plenty of lettuce on the sandwich.
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Back home in Marshall, Illinois in '55, my mom had read about these somewhere and brought a platter of them to my 8th Grade graduation party. I think I had one and she had one and a couple of other people got brave as well, and then I had'em for lunch for a week. I thought they were swell, but Adventurous Eating was not real big around there in those days.
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LOVE sliced green olives mixed in with cream cheese! My local breakfast/lunch spot has this in the display case, along with a gazillion other iterations of cream cheese to schmear on your bagel of choice. (Okay, well maybe that's hyperbole - not really a gazilllion - more like 9 kinds.)
Even more than just sliced olives and cream cheese, I go a little crazy when bits of crisply-cooked bacon are crumbled into it. Pack some o' that into a sandwich on white toast or date-nut bread - oh boy!
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Thanks for reminding me of this old fashioned deliciousness. I have just revisited good old home-made pimento cheese sandwiches and will now introduce my grandchildren to this treat (made with green olives w/pimentos please). I am also thinking about (for our more sophisticated palates) trying this with a green olive tapenade or olivada mixed with the cream cheese. In theory it sounds good to me...perhaps as a spread for crackers...may be too strong for a sandwich? A good project for today.
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Olives and cream cheese is a magical combination. My mom used to get roast beef/cream cheese/black olive/yellow mustard/sprouts in a pita from a shop in Belmont Shores in the early eighties, 25 years later, it's my favorite. I also like to stuff large black olives with cream cheese, it makes a great snack or app for holidays. Cream cheese and green olives sounds divine. If I make a sandwich, what kind of bread should I use? And can I put yellow mustard on it, or is that sacrelidge?
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re: schrutefarms
good pumpernickel i'd say is the best for the spread. make sure you use the "salad" olives (green olives with pimentos) -- they're olive pieces instead of whole, and are cheaper to buy.
but i'd even eat the olive spread on wonderbread, too, although it would stick to the roof of my mouth (i'd suffer through...).
as i mentioned upthread, add some rare roast beef and grill it, and you've got *my* fave sandwich.
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Nicholson Baker's first (and to my mind still best) novel, THE MEZZANINE, is set in Boston, and its main character has a long and hilarious rumination on the olive and cream cheese sandwich, especially those found pre-packaged in delis. As I recall, he mostly wonders what the inventor of the combination discarded before he hit on the green olive and cream cheese combo.
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Interesting... being a SW boy, I've never even heard of these until this thread.
Green olives sliced and pressed into cream cheese on bread - is that the gist of it?
Regular 'ol jarred green olives?I should try this - I love olives. I love cream cheese. I love bread.
Any additions (besides walnuts - can't stand 'em)?Thanks,
AzD
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Definitely not exclusive to Baltimore. In Manhattan, bagels with cream cheese & chopped olives (green, with pimentos) are pretty common. But I first had them at the Inkwell in Long Branch, NJ, in the mid '80s.
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Never had the pleasure of a cream cheese & olive sandwich. Must. Try. One.
Can any of you fans explain whether the olives are sliced? Are they in circles, or lengthwise? Do they have to be green olives stuffed with pimentos, or would olives stuffed with, say, garlic, or jalapenos, or almonds be acceptable? How about anchovies?
Does the type of cream cheese make a difference (solid vs. whipped)?
What else do I need to know?
Thanks!
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re: RoxyB
In our family, we always used cocktail olives with pimento. We did a cross-section slice so that each slice had a dot of red pimento in the center. The two rounded ends were "scarfed" by the person with the fastest hands. Bread or toast slice smeared with cream cheese, and then the olives are pressed into the cheese [liberally.] I like the sandwich cuts into triangles, crusts on. Welcome to the club.
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re: RoxyB
Olives sliced in circles, so each slice has the pimento in the middle -- concentric like. Its more fun that way! I'd start with green olives w/ pimentos. I like solid cream cheese better than whipped for its consistency, but it may not matter that much.
Also, one question you must consider is the "population density" of the olives. My personal preference is not too many olives, just enough to get a few slices in each bite. I got this sandwich at a deli recently and they were way too heavy handed with the olives.
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re: RoxyB
Quite true, though it depends on the presentation medium. In a sandwich they should be like houses in suburbia, close enough together to make a neighborhood but with enough space to keep everybody busy mowing their lawns on the weekend. If you're making canapes on crackers you can increase the density to favela level.
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re: RoxyB
I save green olives with anchovies for dirty martinis.
When I make olive and cream cheese spread, I just recklessly chop the olives and smash them into cream cheese, which I've softened and whipped slightly. Sometimes I put the whole mess into a food processor and hit the pulse button -- the result is still as yummy. I always use pimento stuffed green olives for cream cheese.
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re: RoxyB
put those green olives stuffed with pimentos with a small wedge of raw onion , garlic optional put in one of those kitchen choppers , leave kinda course mix with any kind of cream cheese , even flavored with onion and chives mix it all together ,spread on your favorite bread , grill in skillet , just had one , wow !!!
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in florida, i had that spread on crustless tea sandwiches (finger sandwiches, as suites rightly recalls). white, soft bread.
in college, there was a place that turned me on to rare roast beef with the green-olive-and-pimento cream cheese on pumpernickel and grilled. so delicious!
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My Mom made them for us in the fifties and sixties. I remember her using ripe olives and whole wheat toast. Winston-Salem NC
I have some olives in the fridge right now and may have to grab a package of cream cheese next store stop. I have a source for some really good sourdough whole wheat too!›1 Reply -
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What memories! This was one of my favorite "special" sandwiches as a kid. Mom generally made them on NY Rye bread, but occasionally, we got white bread for really special occasions. She grew up in Boston, but we were living in NYC. I don't know which location inspired this fabulous sandwich.
My sister preferred cream cheese and jelly sandwiches. I never liked that sweet thing.
I still love olives with cottage cheese since it is very similar.
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re: smtucker
My mother occasionally packed me cream cheese and jelly sandwiches too. I much preferred the savory cc&o to the sweet cc&j.
Also, I sometimes got cc&o with black olives. Not good -- too bland for me. Cc&o needs briny green olives. Of course, a modern version could use kalamatas.
Rye bread is definitely the way to go!
I don't eat much cream cheese these days due to cholesterol issues but I might have to whip up a cc&o sandwich this weekend. We have a loaf of corn rye from a local bakery that will be perfect for this treat. My daughter (almost 5) loves olives so I'll see if I can pass the torch on cc&o sandwiches.
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re: Bob W
Hmmm, never tried black olives. I'd miss the pimentos too much.
I tend to just use the regular 'ol green olives in a jar with pimentos, since that fits the sandwich's utilitarian vibe, but you've got me thinking. Our local Whole Foods has a nice olive bar, I may need to do some "research".
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re: charentais
I grew up in Southern California and we never had cream cheese and olive sandwiches. I once went to a friend's house in Newport Beach and her mom showed me how to make cream cheese and black olive dip, which I thought was phenomenal! It wasn't until I moved to the East Coast before I had a proper cream and green olive sandwich or rye or pumpernickel, which was even more phenomenal than the Newport Beach olive dip.
Kraft makes a pretty good pre-mixed green olive and cream cheese schmear for when I'm too lazy to make my own.
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re: chowmel
Yup,
Here is my mom's recipe from my Irish-Boston mid-60's childhood:
Cut jarred green, pimento-stuffed olives into thinnish slices (width-wise, so the pimento is a circle of red in each slice). Put brick of cream cheese (they only came in bricks then) into bowl. Add olive slices and just enough of the olive brine to make a thick, creamy paste.
Spread thickly on dark pumpernickel.
Slice in half.
Devour.
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re: muzzomine
That was (well, still is) our standard prep for stuffed celery. The only time as a kid that I had a sandwich was when there was leftover spread from the stuffed celery. Now I make sure there's leftover spread for just that purpose. After reading this thread, I'm now intent to try it grilled.
One difference from sablemerle, we just do a rough chop on our green olives, not nice slices. But it still tastes delicious!
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Another Michigander here. My college snack bar (Kalamazoo College) offered grilled olive and cream cheese sandwiches, which I loved--crispy, gooey, salty AND creamy.
And the late, still-lamented, Drakes in Ann Arbor made the Stanford sandwich: Three layers of thin white toast, with olive salad, iceberg, and cream cheese. Delicious and dainty!
Now I have a hankering :)
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I put olives and cream cheese (and reconstituted onion flakes) in tortillas and roll up and slice.
We also put olives and cream cheese in celery
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re: laliz
When my mom had the neighbourhood ladies over for bridge, she'd make pinwheel sandwiches, among other things. For one, she'd spread cream cheese on a long thin slice of bread which she'd previously flattened with her pastry roller. Then she'd put stuffed olives in, roll them up, and slice thinly. We kids got to eat the "rejects" - the slices where there was only a bit of olive. Used to love that! (1960's Toronto).
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re: Bob W
Growing up in RI in the 80s -- my mom made Ham Supreme sandwiches. Thinly sliced deli ham, and then the mixed cream cheese with olives. Mmm. I think we usually had these on pumpernickel. I am going to request these for my next visit home :-) Thanks for reminding me of a great treat! We often had these packed in the cooler for lunch at the beach, and my sister and I would get wildly excited as my mom prepared them that morning!
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