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Pei Jul 15, 2009 03:56 PM

Pizza, not the precious Californian kind

The planning continues for my family's mass descent upon SF.

My husband and I are planning to introduce our suburban and foreign visitors to a lot of the more interesting cuisines SF has to offer, but we've decided they'll need at least one night's respite.

We'll be winding down one day in the North Beach area, so I wondered where we should go for pizza? We'll be a large group (10) so waiting at Tomasso's doesn't sound particularly appealing. The criteria of this particular meal are really just for it to be a family place with big tables and good cheap pizza that tastes better than takeout while not being a challenge for anyone's palates. Should I just be heading to North Beach Pizza?

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    KeepinItReal Jul 20, 2009 01:19 AM

    Has anyone eaten Pizza in Glen Park, Noe Valley (Haystack) or in the outer Mission (Zante, Little Joe's)??? I'd like to know what you think of the places in these neighborhoods.

    Thanks

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    1. re: KeepinItReal
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      sugartoof Jul 20, 2009 02:04 AM

      Glen Park has Gialina now which is rated as one of the best in the city, and usually has long lines. They're known for inventive California style toppings.

      Haystack has been around forever, and they turn out perfectly fine neighborhood pizza. It can be greasy, but it's the kind of place where once you find a combo you like, it's sort of reliable for what it is. Once upon a time there were lines here but I think the die hards moved away from the area. The quality has decline a bit too. It's not the kind of thing I would go out of my way to eat.

      Zante is Indian pizza. The place isn't the cleanest, but it's tasty as a novelty experience that you'll either get hooked on or be freaked out by. The indian pizza itself can feel like you're eating leftovers spread across a pizza. It's a little unsettling but works in a strange way. I don't know what their regular pizzas are like, but I would suspect it's going to be a little greasy, and nothing particularly standout.

      Little Joe's - I haven't been recently, so I'd be curious. It used to be an old style cheapie pizza, only it's not cheap. I would expect something close to Villa Romano, if that reference means anything.

      Reviews of pizza are hard to trust since it's such a personalized taste. I think you can get a lot from a picture though...so my suggestion is to check out their websites, and yelp and decide if it fits your idea of what a good pizza looks like.

      1. re: sugartoof
        rworange Jul 20, 2009 08:23 AM

        link

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        Gialina
        2842 Diamond St, San Francisco, CA 94131

        Zante Pizza
        3489 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94110

        Haystack Pizza
        3881 24th St, San Francisco, CA 94114

        Little Joe's Pizzeria
        5006 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94112

    2. Lori SF Jul 17, 2009 12:05 PM

      What about Pauline's they can accommodate a large party and very good pizza. Not in North Beach though.

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      Pauline's Pizza
      260 Valencia St, San Francisco, CA 94103

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      1. re: Lori SF
        BernalKC Jul 17, 2009 01:14 PM

        And, as much as I love Paulines, I think both Pauline's and Delfina fall into the "precious Californian kind" -- not what the OP is after.

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          Lori SF Jul 17, 2009 04:29 PM

          Pauline's has the same offerings as Tommaso's- garlic, pepperoni, Italian sausage, mushrooms, Anchovies, etc. They have similar style pizza on the menu or you can build your own. I would not consider Delfina to be "precious Californian kind" but more Italian if anything.

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            sugartoof Jul 17, 2009 07:52 PM

            You might have an argument with Pauline's depending on how you order, but Delfina is attempting to be as Italian as they possibly can. No strange ingredients or salads on top. Their product is much different than their reputation, decor, image, etc.

            1. re: sugartoof
              Robert Lauriston Jul 18, 2009 08:58 AM

              Leaving aside the question of whether they can seat a party of ten at the California St. location, Delfina's pizzas are only big enough for one or two people, so the bill would be high compared with Italian-American places where you can order a few big pies.

        2. spinn1 Jul 17, 2009 09:59 AM

          Pazzia
          Gaspare's
          Giorgio's
          Pizzeria Delfina
          Pasquale's
          ...would all be better choices.

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          1. re: spinn1
            Robert Lauriston Jul 17, 2009 10:07 AM

            Maybe, if they were in North Beach.

            Pazzia's pretty Italian with smallish pizzas. In North Beach, for that style, you could go to Ideale (the chef opened Pazzia and sold it). But the bill would be high compared with Italian-American places where you can order a few big pies.

            Pizzeria Delfina would probably be a long wait for a party of 10, if they could handle that many at all.

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              sugartoof Jul 17, 2009 01:00 PM

              Not that it's going to solve the OP's request, but I wonder if the Delfina off Fillmore is better for groups? I couldn't tell from the layout but it looked much calmer.

            2. re: spinn1
              a_and_w Jul 17, 2009 10:39 AM

              Not for 10 people coming from North Beach. I doubt Pizzeria Delfina can even seat 10 people together.

              PS: Just realized I duplicated Robert's reply -- sorry for the echo LOL!

            3. BernalKC Jul 16, 2009 10:09 AM

              What about Tony's Pizza Napoletana? I have not been there yet, but it is in N.B., it serves many styles of pizza, not sure about the dining room size, but yelp says they're good for groups....

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              1. re: BernalKC
                Shane Greenwood Jul 20, 2009 06:05 AM

                Busy place, no reservations. Might be hard to get 10 sitting together but worth a try between the lunch and dinner rush because the pizza is so good.

              2. a_and_w Jul 16, 2009 09:04 AM

                I would consider Amici's in Cow Hollow. It's a chain, but surprisingly decent. It's also not far from the North Beach with plenty of seating for large groups.

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                  lapizzamaven Jul 16, 2009 10:07 AM

                  I would definitely endorse Tony's Pizza Napoletana at stockton/union. was there last week at 2:30pm. i sat at the bar but there was only a minimal wait for a table. The margherita was as good as any pie i've had..I no longer do rankings but would put this pie up there at the top..there are many options so i wont comment on any other pies..but ya cant go wrong with this award-winner.

                  1. re: lapizzamaven
                    rworange Jul 16, 2009 11:51 AM

                    Are there tables that would seat a group of 10?

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                      Shane Greenwood Jul 20, 2009 06:03 AM

                      Doesn't look like it. And they don't take reservations. They have two rooms, one long and narrow front room with a bar. The back room has more space with bench/chair tables along the wall and a few floating tables, they might be able to slide some together back there. However, it would be difficult to all sit together especially given how busy this place is getting.

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                  sugartoof Jul 16, 2009 04:47 AM

                  Pulcinella will be opening Saturday
                  Tony's sounds really promising, but there's likely to be a line there as well.

                  1. Robert Lauriston Jul 15, 2009 06:20 PM

                    If you lucked out and didn't have to wait, Tommaso's would be ideal.

                    If it's a Monday, Joey & Eddie's would be an option:

                    http://www.joeyandeddies.com/document...

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                      cyberroo Jul 15, 2009 06:12 PM

                      Personally, I really like North Beach Pizza, for what it is, which is basic, good pizza. It's not, as you so aptly put it, the precious California kind, but it's tasty.

                      That said, the new location is much less dive-y than the previous one, but the pizza isn't quite as good. (Personally, I think the old one had yeast in the air from decades of pizza, and the new location just hasn't built up the same stuff.) But it's more comfortable, and if you're really just looking for a relaxing, chill evening, it's not a bad choice.

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                        lovebitessf Jul 15, 2009 05:57 PM

                        I wouldn't write off Tomasso's. If you're winding down the day in North Beach you could show up right when they open at 5PM (4 on Sundays, closed Mondays) or soon thereafter. No wait, and they have a long table that runs down the middle of the room that's great for a large group. Fun place to end of a day in NB.

                        But I have not tried Tony's Pizza yet...looking forward to it.

                        1. rworange Jul 15, 2009 04:22 PM

                          God ... no ... NOT North Beach Pizza ... unless you hate these people.

                          What about the new Tony's Pizza
                          http://www.chow.com/places/55218

                          Note I haven't been there yet but I'm reading a lot of positives about it.

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                          1. re: rworange
                            Pei Jul 15, 2009 04:31 PM

                            Thanks for the rec. And the first sentence; it totally made me snort my water.

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                            bdl Jul 15, 2009 04:02 PM

                            Maybe Gaspare's in the Richmond on Geary?

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