need refrigerator advice
Remodeling a house and down to the last thing. I need a fridge, and I don't want to spring for a built in. I want cabinet depth, stainless steel and preferably a bottom freezer, as I want room for casserole dishes, etc. so a side-by-side won't work. I don't want to spend any more than $3500 or $4000 (and I'd certainly spend less), but I also want to know that I'm getting something quality. Any recommendations?
somervilleoldtimer: "I have an Amana, bottom freezer, that's been cranking along pretty successfully for 17 years now"
We are happy with our bottom freezer Amana, also; ours was purchased in 1995.
Unfortunately, "our" Amana is no more. Amana is a brand of Whirlpool these days, and Whirlpool has decided that Amana is not one of its premium brands. There is no continuity between the Amanas that you and I enjoy and the Amana-brand refrigerator that someone may purchase today.
While the loss of Amana appliances may be unfortunate, there is nothing wrong with Whirlpool appliances. In fact, they are consistently highly rated by Consumer Reports, and we've had a Whirlpool fridge, stove, and dishwasher since 2003 with zero problems. Can't say the same about our previous General Electric fridge and jenn-air range.
We've had good luck with Kenmore, from Sears. However, I can't vouch for their bottom-freezer models.
I've heard wonderful things, also, about KitchenAid's offerings.
Amana, Maytag, most of Kenmore, Whirlpool, KitchenAid, and Jenn-Air are all made by Whirlpool. The main difference is the trim (KA has a deeper bottom drawer, Whirlpool has a soda 12-pack holder in the door, Jenn-Air's thermostat shows the temperature instead of a setting from 1-7) and several hundred dollars. If you're committed to counter-depth, you're going to pay a premium for a smaller fridge. I think it's ridiculous. Personally, I decided to live with a standard depth fridge and sprang for a shiny new Electrolux range. I'm absolutely thrilled with both. After looking through lots and lots of stuff online, I found that anything in the Whirlpool group is going to be a good bet. They're built solidly, and if something does go wrong they have excellent customer service.
Kenmore is a sucker bet. Kenmore doesn't actually *make* anything; they get someone else to make it and slap a Kenmore label on it. It's like any grocery store's private label, e.g. Target's Archer Farms or Trader Joe's. You end up saving a little bit over the identical item with the manufacturer's label. However, that cost savings comes at a price: If the appliance breaks, the Sears repairman comes out instead of the Maytag (or Jenn-Air or what have you) man, and Sears is infamous for having horrid repair service. Spend the extra bucks for the original brand. If the fridge breaks, you'll be glad you did.
Oh, speaking of breaking fridges, the part of a fridge most likely to break is an in-the-door ice maker. To boot, you end up having the ice maker eat up fridge space (which comes at quite the premium on counter-depth). Avoid models with them.
One more note: Stay away from Viking unless you like replacing compressors on a fairly regular basis. I had a family member offer me a GORGEOUS counter-depth one and I turned it down because I knew what happens to Viking fridges.
re: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester
"Kenmore doesn't actually *make* anything; they get someone else to make it and slap a Kenmore label on it."
That's true but if you know the codes you can find out who made that particular unit. We had trouble with a fridge in the past, and when we complained the service guy came out and looked at it. First thing he did was look at the serial number, then he said that it was made by "so & so" and we really should send it back and get one that started with the letters "XY" since that was top of the line. We did and it lasted for years.
Edited to add: The new fridge we have is a side by side but it has a built in water filtration system that makes the water and ice taste so good. Filters out 99% of impurities.
I hope that Whirlpool quality has held up like my 1992 model. No repairs or glitches whatsoever. Only mistake I made was buying an 18 sq-ft model - go bigger!
BTW it usually consumes about 84 watts, roughly 1/3 of my ~$30 monthly electric bill. I don't know what details the current energy guide stickers show, but if you need to determine actual power consumption consider getting a P3 Kill-A-Watt: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product...
We recently bought a Samsung with a bottom freezer in "platinum" finish. This is slightly warmer than stainless and cleans easily. So far we are very happy. We use very little ice so have not set up the ice maker, so can't comment on that. It isn't counter depth though.
It lists for under $1500. We got it on special for just under $1000 at Costco.
In Shore house we have a cabinet depth Liebherr with a bottom freezer that I adore. Easy storage , easy to clean and within your price range. Freezer holds alot . In city we have a Sub Zero built in that I would shoot in a second. Had to replace ( with a Sub Zero) recently as freezer died and NOTHING else matched dimensions...they have a guarantee product replacement thing going unless u want to replace cabinetry Takes a body builder to open the door.
I just gutted my kitchen and bought a KA SS french door - water dispenser inside fridge, and ice maker in freezer. Full size, not counter depth (I'll never understand counter depth, but that's me.)
I would suggest:
1. Not getting ice and water on front of door. Eats up WAAAAAAAY too much space.
2. Checking the sturdiness of the drawers. My KA drawers feel cheap and flimsy. They do not glide out nicely at all. The bottom tray drawer is perfectly fine, but the crisper drawers feel like garbage, and are pretty annoying. I thought that once I had them filled and added weight, they would be better, but sadly, not so. I will not make this mistake again. It seems like a small little thing, but It's really annoying. TEST THE DRAWERS, seriously. Another thing that I would have checked instead of assuming is the ability to open the drawers with one door closed. My KA does not afford this. Not as big of a deal as the flimsiness of the drawers, but seems like it would be nice. The KA model you are looking at might not have these issues, but I'd suggest that you check into the drawer assembly.
If I could do it over again, I might have bought one of the 29 c.f samsungs. I'm fine with the KA, but the cheap drawers kinda stick in my craw. In the end, a fridge is a box that's purpose is to keep things cold. My contractor and kitchen designer both agreed that overspending on a name is pretty silly. I got mine from Sears when they offered a 25% rebate on it this spring. Didn't do as much reasearch on the fridge as the other appliances - I just knew that LG had some serious issues, and other than that, most fridges (outside of the high end ones) were pretty much the same except for lighting and compartment arrangement.
I have a less than 5 year old LG, french door, bottom freezer: perfect design, hideous execution. All the interior plastic parts are broken. The freezer drawer sticks because of the ice that pools under it but if you pull really hard, the handle flies off. The freezer basket rails failed almost immediately (right after the warranty period), and the crisper drawers are now held together with electrical tape. I will not buy another without looking for metal moving parts.