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  <id>635743</id>
  <title>Dinners in Berlin Please?</title>
  <published_at>Sat Jul 11 08:13:49 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>26</post_count>
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    <name>International</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4848875</id>
        <content>I'll be spending a week long business trip in Berlin and would love some suggestions.

Last years visit this site was great in sharing all the street food to try.

For this trip I would love some suggestions for:

-Steak &amp; Wine

-Sushi/Seafood

-Italian

-and nice German Food restaurants with a wine list

Thank you in advance,

Stuart</content>
        <published_at>Sat Jul 11 08:13:49 -0700 2009</published_at>
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          <name>Hypnotic23</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4848899</id>
      <content>I'll be staying at the Estrel Hotel in Berlin, I know its far away from the city and closer to the Polish border but will cab it.

Last year we tried this sushi/japanese spot and was very disappointed:

VOX/Sushi
Restaurant Vox-Grand Hyatt Hotel-Berlin
Marlene-Dietrich-Platz 2,
10785 Berlin
Telefon: +49 (0)30 2553 1772

Would love some feedback on my intial post.

Thanks,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 11 08:24:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4848875</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>4852794</id>
      <content>steak &amp; wine - entrec&#244;te in mitte
sushi - mr. hai in wilmersdorf @olivaer platz (go for the lunch special between 12 and 4 pm)
italian... so many.  noodles &amp; figli in kreuzberg, trattoria paparazzi in prenzlauerberg...
nice german food:  renger-patzsch in sch&#246;neberg

feel free to peruse my (albeit mostly german language) berlin blog for more suggestions:

http://bitchinberlin.wordpress.com/
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 03:20:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4848899</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>4853555</id>
      <content>Thank you, can you provide these suggestions address please?

I appreciate it,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 08:39:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4852794</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4853676</id>
      <content>they're all easily googled, but sure:

entrec&#244;te - sch&#252;tzenstr. 5
mr. hai kabuki - olivaer platz 10
noodles &amp; figli - skalitzer str. 94b
trattoria paparazzi - husemannstr. 35
renger-patzsch - wartburgstr. 54

guten hunger!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 09:09:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4853555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4854539</id>
      <content>LinguaFood-

Do you suggest these 2 spots to eat too?

Restaurants:

http://www.marjellchen-berlin.de/
 
 
http://www.engelbecken.de/</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 13:17:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4853676</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>4854993</id>
      <content>you know, i've never been to either, and don't know the wine selection at engelbecken, but it definitely fits your quest for German food.  i've heard good stuff about it, from people that i trust.  from where you are staying, of course, that's quite a hike.

Marjellchen's gotten good reviews on chow as well.  From personal experience, i can only speak for renger-patzsch, which is probably 'nearest' to you.

</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 15:19:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4854539</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>4855618</id>
      <content>thats very nice of you, so from all these suggestions you gave me, you took into thought where my hotel is in Berlin.

If so I'm going by all your suggestions for this trip and I thank you very much.

Stuart  :&gt;)</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 13 18:48:30 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4854993</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
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    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>4856306</id>
      <content>You will have to use public transportation to get to any of these, given the location of your hotel -- some trips are shorter, some longer (but none should be over 30 min... everything in the center can be reached within 30 minutes), but hey -- you get to see the city, and there isn't a hell of a lot to choose from where you are.

Enjoy the food!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 14 03:24:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4855618</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>4856977</id>
      <content>I agree, last year most of the spots we dined at were in the area of the Sony Center. By the way, my boss loves fine wine and upscale steakhouses, is entrec&#244;te one of the best for us to try?

Thanks,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 14 08:10:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4856306</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>10</level>
      <id>4857137</id>
      <content>Supposedly, your best bet for steak is at grill royal near friedrichstr., the service can be crappy, tho.

It's a 'hipper' place than entrec&#244;te, so I don't know what's important to you.  It certainly has a larger selection of steaks (including wagyu).  Not sure about the wine list.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 14 08:43:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4856977</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>11</level>
      <id>4857235</id>
      <content>I want to stay in Berlin and no more then 30 minutes from our hotel Estrel.

A nice steakhouse, thats classy, dress nice, I dont mind a hip crowd, we just want a pleasant environment, good food and wines?

Knowing this which should we go to for our Steak evening?

Again-thank you for all your help,

Stuart  :&gt;)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 14 09:06:16 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4857137</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>4857391</id>
      <content>either one, tho from what you're saying, maybe grill royal is your better bet.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 14 09:49:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4857235</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>5028765</id>
      <content>Well, I leave in 3 weeks for a 5 day trip to Berlin, reservations are all booked just in need for a couple more:

Thurs-Entrecote
Friday-Grill Royal
Sat.-Trattori Papparazzi Pizzeria

Thank you  linguafood 

Now my new question, since everywhere I look is a Turkish Kebob spot, are there any good restaurants for Turkish Kabobs worth trying close to me? Again I'm staying at the Estrel Hotel-Berlin and will take the most a 25 minute cab ride.

My back up spots to try are:

Mr. Hai Kabuki Sushi and Renger-Patzsch...

I'll await replies,

Stuart  :&gt;)</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 10:34:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4857391</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>14</level>
      <id>5028835</id>
      <content>the best d&#246;ner (which i think you mean by kebab) is to be had at imren on boppstr. in neuk&#246;lln -- the IMBISS, NOT the sit-down place;  for some reason, despite the massively large number of turkish immigrants, really good turkish sit-down food is hard to come by in berlin.  or maybe they're just keeping it from us germans '-)

it should not be too far from your hotel.

kabuki is further away from you, and keep in mind that it is a lunch deal (9.50 for miso soup, three plates, and aycd tea between 12 and 4 pm).  it gets _really_ expensive at dinner time.

renger-patzsch is always good for regional german grub.

can't wait to hear about your experiences!!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 10:50:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5028765</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
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    <post>
      <level>15</level>
      <id>5028949</id>
      <content>What does this word mean or is this the name of the place?

the IMBISS</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 11:30:08 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5028835</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>16</level>
      <id>5028994</id>
      <content> linguafood,

knowing I have 2 extra nights for more dinners and you know the area I'm staying in. I like all type of foods, is there a must go to spot you can simply suggest?

Thanks,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 11:41:39 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5028949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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      <level>16</level>
      <id>5029033</id>
      <content>oops, sorry.  imbiss is the german word for snack bar, or in this case, a kebab shop.  imren has two locations on boppstr., and i'd vote for the take-away place.  they bake their own flatbread, and the d&#246;ner is unusually spiced, with hints of cinnamon.  nothing else like it in berlin, i think.

as for the other two nights, depends on how much money you want to spend.  i like pata negra, which is a modern spanish resto in mitte with a molecular theme.  not crazy expensive, but also not cheap.  go for some of the multi-course options, they're a better deal than ordering &#224; la carte.

or you can try your luck at getting a rez @henne, the chicken place in kreuzberg.  mmmmmmm fried chicken '-D</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 11:54:51 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5028949</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>17</level>
      <id>5029118</id>
      <content>Your the best with all your feedback and knowledge for your country, hats off to you!  :&gt;)

Is this the spot your talking about for fried chicken, is it within 20-30 minutes from my hotel Estrel?

http://www.henne-berlin.de

Thank you again,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 12:21:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029033</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>18</level>
      <id>5029244</id>
      <content>yep, henne it is.  anything that isn't west of charlottenburg should be farther away than 30 minutes from your hotel.  as a rule of thumb, most destinations within the city center can be reached within 30 minutes.  ok, maybe sometimes 40 min.  guess it just has to be worth it, then.

and don't think you have to cab everywhere.  the public transport system (ubahn/subway &amp; s-bahn/elevated trains) is amazing and pretty easy to navigate, compared to paris or nyc.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 14 12:59:25 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029118</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>19</level>
      <id>5038430</id>
      <content>LinguaFood-

I leave in 2 weeks for this business trip, fun and happy eating!

Final question, 90% of the reviews on trattoria paparazzi on the web say its terrible. Please tell me what you like there so much, should we get the pizza or a pasta dish? Reading various reviews the one dish everyone likes is the spinach risotti?

Share your thoughts,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 17 18:53:36 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5029244</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
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      <level>20</level>
      <id>5039482</id>
      <content>i don't know where you got the bad reviews.  some people find the service to be overly cheesy, i personally couldn't care less about that.

for apps, i can recommend the tuna carpaccio with fried capers in lemon oil, or the vitello tonnato, or the antipasti plate.

never had the pizza, always go for the pasta.  i find the malfatti (spinach ricotta "pasta") to be a bit intense, so generally choose any of the other pasta dishes.  had fantastic strozzapetri with beans and pancetta recently.  i don't think you can go wrong with the pasta, even tho their meat and fish always looks tempting...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 18 08:35:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5038430</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5045912</id>
      <content>A few additional thoughts....perhaps Sale e Tabbachi, Der goldene Hahn, Pappa e Ciccia for italian.  Berlin is not a great city for sushi in my opinion.  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 21 09:04:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4848875</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1110861</id>
        <name>kaesemeister</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>5046152</id>
      <content>I've only gone to Goldener Hahn twice = the first &amp; last time.  I found it to be loud, overpriced, and bad quality food.

Mr. Hai is pretty awesome, as far as sushi is concerned.  Not your traditional kinda place, but always good.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Sep 21 10:10:16 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5045912</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>5109026</id>
      <content>LinguaFood-

First off, thank you so much since your recommendations have been incredible. I'm typing from Berlin right now and so far have tried 2 of the spots:

ENTRECOTE, was simply unbelievable, nice setting and incredible food, they slice this bagette bread first for your table, then we started with some shrimp &amp; scallop skewers which were very taste. My business partner and I split the Chateau Briyian, excuse my spelling, it came with these wonderful peas and potatoe fritte. On top of this we had wonderful wines, for dessert the chocolate lava cake was wonderful.

Now tonight we just returned rom ROYAL GRILL, way more elegant but I actually enjoyed Entrecote more. Royal Grills jalapeno bread they bring out was nice and crusty with so much flavor. Of course we had more wine here too. We started out with the seafood sampler and it had everything from oysters, to giant prawns, lobster, crab, tuna ceviche, octopus and more. For my main course I had a filet mignon from Ireland, very nice along with a side of brussel sprouts in bacon and potatoes. For dessert I had the baked apples with ice-cream, a wonderful meal...

More to come...

Thank you,

Stuart</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 16 15:02:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5046152</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5109202</id>
      <content>I'm very glad to hear that!  Enjoy your coming culinary experiences and continue to share.  And if you don't / didn't like something, I want to hear about that as well.  Don't be shy!

Cheers &amp; guten Appetit.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 16 16:36:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5109026</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>116513</id>
        <name>linguafood</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>5110976</id>
      <content>Just finished dinner at=

trattoria paparazzi - husemannstr. 35

this was the first italian restaurant to open in east berlin during the communist era, we really enjoyed this spot and ordered so much food. Of course we started with some nice italian wine, then into the anti pasta appetizer, tuna carmichio, and some facasha bread, excuse spelling. Then for our main course we were hoping for the lamb but they sold out, instead we had 2 dishes we split, the stuffed chicken with buffalo cheese and a wonderful rissoto rice and a penne pasta with meat, wonderful. Then we shared 4 combo desserts, very nice time, thank you</content>
      <published_at>Sat Oct 17 16:02:03 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>5109202</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16501</id>
        <name>Hypnotic23</name>
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