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  <title>TN:  2008 Gr&#252;ner Veltliner Values Up to $18</title>
  <published_at>Sun Jul 05 22:10:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
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    <name>Wine</name>
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        <content>Brief notes from a walk-around tasting of Austrian wines from Terry Theise Estate Selections, June 29, in San Francisco.

Ecker Wagram, $16 &#8211; The first wine of the day, and I&#8217;ll confess that the lead position nearly always tastes better and sometimes rates higher than it should.  This is a producer that hadn&#8217;t been on my Gr&#252;Ve-radar, but Ecker is now, for sure.  Effusive nose brimming with bouquets of sweet pea and slight white pepper spiciness, more lentil-ly and minerals  on the palate, great focus, light-bodied, squeaky clean and crystal clear impression, zips through to crisp finish.  VERY GOOD plus

Schloss Gobelsburg &#8220;Gobelsburger&#8221; Kamptal, $15.50 &#8211; Nose of kaffir lime leaf and lemon blossoms, more fruit than expected with some white nectarine, rounded awkward finish, a little bubble gum in the aftertaste.  VERY GOOD

Hiedler &#8220;Loess&#8221; Kamptal, $17 &#8211; Peppy with green bean, chamomile, grass, stones, and citrus, graceful carriage finishing with a wee bit of fat, clean and shimmering with everything I love about GV, yet along with that varietal-correctness there&#8217;s a soulful resonance even in this entry-level bottling.  EXCELLENT minus

Hirsch &#8220;Veltliner #1&#8221; Kamptal, $17.50 &#8211; Always an easy choice for a well-priced GV with more fruity expression and softer styling, I&#8217;ve consumed mass quantities of this brand over the years.  This vintage is round and people-pleasing, clean and graceful, but I would like a bit more pick-up in the acid balance.  VERY GOOD 

Glatzer Carnuntum, $13.50 &#8211; Perennial QPR-leader.  Very fragrant with flowers and English peas, riper than expected for the vintage and not as biting, turns a bit hollow in the middle, but overall pleasant and easy to drink.  VERY GOOD minus

Glatzer &#8220;Dornenvogel&#8221;, $18 &#8211; Lemongrass and Shanghai cabbage drenched with wet stones, clean line of acidity carries very long on the palate, attractive lightness, taut now and hard to read yet quite characterful, a puzzlement, and one that I&#8217;ll probably rate higher in a few months.  VERY GOOD

Rudolph Schwarzb&#246;ck Weinvertel, $13.50/liter &#8211; Sweet pea blossomy nose, lively attack with limes and white pepper on the palate, quite harmonious for such a young wine, clean and green impression, crisp acidity and so refreshing, light-bodied, tapering finish with grassy aftertaste.  My first example from this producer, and one I&#8217;ll remember.  VERY GOOD plus

Hans Setzer Weinviertel, $13.50/liter &#8211; Bottle cap closure.  Zesty and lively with good cut of thirst-quenching acidity, white pepper and lime leaf, a bit fuller in the middle than typical at this price point, good carriage and length.  VERY GOOD plus

Erich Berger Kremstal, $12.50/liter &#8211; Perky and bright with peppery spice, mustard greens and citrus, zippy acid balance, uncomplicated quaff to wash away the cares of the day.  VERY GOOD

Salomon Undhof &#8220;Hochterrassen&#8221; Kremstal, $17.50 &#8211; While I&#8217;ve consumed mass quanties of Hirsch, I&#8217;m certain I&#8217;ve downed even more bottles of the Hochterrassen, my go-to, drink it tonight GV.  Where Hirsch is fruit-driven and friendly, Salomon is stonier, more brooding and complicated.  Or as one friend put it, &#8220;Salomon&#8217;s wines taste like crushed vitamin pills.&#8221;  And, that&#8217;s why I adore them especially in a stern vintage like this one when you can really taste the rocks.  Opening with a sweetly floral nose of sweet peas, fuller and riper upfront than expected for the year with a bold entry, shiny and lively with a well-measured balance of fruit and minerality through the long lasting finish.  EXCELLENT minus
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        <published_at>Sun Jul 05 22:10:43 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10039</id>
          <name>Melanie Wong</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>4835107</id>
      <content>Crushed vitamin pills -- I love it!

Thanks for taking the time to post these, Melanie. The only one I've tried (and have a second bottle of in my fridge) is the Gobelsburg; your assessment is spot-on. Will keep an eye peeled for the others, especially the Salomon (some of whose wines are sold in Ontario) and the Heider (which is new to me).
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      <published_at>Mon Jul 06 19:29:07 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4832223</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10520</id>
        <name>carswell</name>
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      <id>4836298</id>
      <content>Hiedler rocks. They have a library release of the 1994 at K&amp;L for $55 if you're interested. Berger's a great QPR.
The Hirsch I've had have been good, too.
One to look for, although it's an Age of Riesling import and not Thiese, is Ott. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 07 08:57:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <name>SteveTimko</name>
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      <id>4849971</id>
      <content>Hey Melanie, was the Setzer the '07? Stopped into the Wine Barn (? or whatever the hell the actual name is) in Healdsburg this week and got a taste. Bob, behind the bar, thought it was not up to the level of the previous years. I still have a few bottles of the '05 but the taste memories are too far gone for comparison. I thought it was pretty good, especially given the QPR with the additional 250ml to boot.

[Edit to Add]  Oops, just noticed the 2008 in the title, now unsure as to what Bob poured for me. Will follow up. I did manage to score his only four bottles of Anthill Farms Pinot and two of Hook and Ladder.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 11 17:58:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <id>18150</id>
        <name>PolarBear</name>
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