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Dark chocolate cocoa..where are you?

bsv Jul 4, 2009 04:04 PM

I was wondering has anyone run across dark chocolate cocoa? and if so, where did you find it ?
(somewhere in Toronto would be key but as long as not to far it is still good )
I know it exists but I have not yet found it.

where I have checked (only one location of):
bulk barn

and not one of them had it, so I thought I would come and ask if anyone has found it.

Thanks in advance

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  1. jayt90 RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 04:35 PM

    You are leading us astray.

    Cocoa is a commodity, neither light or dark, but a bitter powder that can be used to make light or dark chocolate, depending on how much you use.

    There is no dark chocolate cocoa, except in packages, with dried milk and sugar, and the usual food chemist's soup, that borrow the term "cocoa". Godiva has one.

    1. TorontoJo RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 04:41 PM

      Ghiradelli and Cocoa Camino (fair trade and organic) both make a dark chocolate hot chocolate mix (which is what I assume you're looking for). I've bought both at Bruno's on Avenue Rd. I've also bought the Cocoa Camino brand at Fresh From the Farm on Donlands. I prefer the Cocoa Camino.

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        Anahnamus RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 04:58 PM

        Don't worry you're not leading anyone astray, there is an extra dark cocoa powder and it's available at McCall's Baker's warehouse. Near Kipling and Bloor, I'd call ahead first, I bought mine at the wholesale location, but they should have some there. My guess is this is what you are looking for, stay away from both the ghiradelli and cocoa camino, they are not that good. Callebaut cocoa would be the most reasonable. But anyways for the dark cocoa, I'd call there, but it's probably not the best cocoa, good for homemade oreos though.

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          bsv RE: Anahnamus Jul 5, 2009 01:47 PM

          thanks, I have been looking for an excuse to go there

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          Anahnamus RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 05:00 PM

          Here's a photo of what I have.

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            red dragon RE: Anahnamus Jun 11, 2010 07:14 AM

            Anahnamus: I mentioned McCall's being quite far from me, but did you mean the product you pictured above is not that great?

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            amazinc RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 05:30 PM

            King Arthur Flour has a product called black cocoa and it may be what you want. I have bought it to make extra dark baked goods i.e. world peace cookies, chocolate sandwich cookies and dark chocolate crackles. Use it just like regular cocoa powder and admire the wonderful dark color. They also have a "dark dutch" that you might want to purchase for the occasion when you need the dutch processed cocoa powder. See if either of these are what you're looking for.

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              Anahnamus RE: amazinc Jul 4, 2009 05:47 PM

              King Arthur products are available in Canada as of right now. I think the products are one in the same though

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                jayt90 RE: Anahnamus Jul 4, 2009 07:21 PM

                Who has KA flour? If it is an online order from Vermont, it is expensive, with border problems, and reports of really poor packaging.

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              middydd RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 06:08 PM

              Pusateri's sells ValRhona cocoa powder (or they did the last time I was there). It's the darkest cocoa powder I've ever come across. Gives an excellent rich flavour to baked goods.

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                bsv RE: middydd Jul 5, 2009 01:48 PM

                pusateri did have some dark cocoa but was STUPIDLY expenisive

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                  red dragon RE: bsv Jun 11, 2010 07:13 AM

                  Looking for an update to this post. McCall's is too far from me, and Pusateri's seems quite expensive.

                  Has anyone seen Hershey’s special dark cocoa in stores (Toronto), I’ve looked all over. (I’m not looking for dutch processed or hot chocolate mix, but the dark cocoa for baking).


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                amazinc RE: bsv Jul 4, 2009 06:33 PM

                No, Anahnamus, there are two separate dark cocoas. The Black and "Double Dutch Dark
                Cocoa". I own both and they are listed in the catalog, as well as on line. Happy Baking

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                  Anahnamus RE: amazinc Jul 5, 2009 06:27 AM

                  I was refering to the cocoa bsv is looking for and the black cocoa as being the same, not the black cocoa and the dark dutch. The brand the I took a picture of and that is available in our area I believe is the same as Black cocoa.

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                    lovemysweets RE: Anahnamus Jan 1, 2011 05:49 PM

                    I use Valrona when I bake. It's a french cocoa company, but they cocoa actually tastes yummy and adds the extra kick, as opposed to Baker's cocoa which just gets into your lungs and tastes harsh and metalic

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                  MiriamOttawa RE: bsv Jan 1, 2011 11:58 PM

                  Chocodirect.com sells Valrhona cocoa powders and also a bunch of other European cocoa powders for baking.
                  I am not sure which ones are the dark ones as their website kind of sucks with no product description other than product title, weight and country of origin.

                  But if you email them customer service is always extremely helpful with my product and ingredient questions.
                  Shipping is also $5 anywhere in Canada, they do not ship outside Canada.
                  Their sale section is also good for random treats and sometimes baking chocolate.
                  And they usually include a few extra thank you items in each order. my last order in Dec had 2 nice Poulin orange hazelnut bar (200 gram size) and a Tohi cinnamon chocolate bar (70 grams)...they are in my kitchen so went to check that.
                  ,my order before that one of my free items was a Valrhona bar.
                  But the free items are really random and I have gotten cookies before, haribo candy...can't remember everything as I order every 2 months it seems.

                  Chocodirect also has some European baking chocolate like Valrhona and Cote D'or that I can't find locally.

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