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jerry i h Jul 3, 2009 04:36 PM

Spent the afternoon eating our way through various NY-type pizza slice places. All very good and highly recommended. I guess you could pick nits about this or that being better or worse for various reasons, but I thought they were all very good and there was little to choose between them. Problem: variable hours. Cheese Board not open on Sundays and tends to have short-ish hours, Pie in the sky not open weekends, so keep an open mind if you go to one and it is not open; just pick another one.
All, except Cheese Board (which is several blocks up on Shattuck) within a block or two of BART.

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Bobby G's Pizzeria
2074 University Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

The Cheese Board Collective
1504 Shattuck Ave, Berkeley, CA 94709

Pie In The Sky
2124 Center St, Berkeley, CA 94704

Arinell Pizza
2109 Shattuck Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704

  1. wolfe Jul 3, 2009 04:58 PM

    Perhaps you should have labeled it Bart-centric Berkeley pizza slices so you could explain your exclusion of Gioia.

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    Gioia Pizzeria
    1586 Hopkins St, Berkeley, CA 94707

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    1. re: wolfe
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      chocolatetartguy Jan 14, 2013 06:59 PM

      If he had gone to Gioia, he could have skipped the rest. Sunday before the Patriots game, I discovered the sweet, hot chopped peppers you can add to your pizza for no additonal cost. Gilding the lily on the Julien, but could work on the spinach or the butternut squash/gorgonzola.

      I had Cheeseboard on Friday for lunch, but it is no match to Gioia. I don't notice the taste of the crust since the toppings are so flavorful.

      Gioia is what I dream John's Pizza in NYC must be like.

      1. re: chocolatetartguy
        Robert Lauriston Jan 15, 2013 08:42 AM

        There's nothing like John's in the Bay Area except maybe the coal-oven pie at Tony's in SF on a good day.

    2. Robert Lauriston Jul 3, 2009 05:24 PM

      Lanesplitter's my favorite. PITS and Cheeseboard are good in their eccentric ways. Arinell is bad but in a very NYC way that some people like. Gioia's crust is tasteless.

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      Lanesplitter Berkeley
      2033 San Pablo Ave, Berkeley, CA 94702

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      1. re: Robert Lauriston
        Glencora Jul 3, 2009 06:08 PM

        I agree 100%.
        If you want to leave Berkeley, Rotten City is good, too.

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          chemchef Jul 3, 2009 08:13 PM

          Yes!! We often leave Berkeley just for Rotten City's amazing pizza.

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            mustardgirl Jul 4, 2009 03:15 AM

            Where is Rotten City?

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              kc72 Jul 4, 2009 06:03 AM

              Emeryville

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              Rotten City Pizza
              6613 Hollis St, Emeryville, CA 94608

            2. re: chemchef
              psb Jan 15, 2013 04:00 AM

              You know I went to ROTTEN CITY not long after they opened and filed them away as "good but not wow" -- which explains the lack of return visits (also the location isnt convenient for me).

              However, I had two slices there last week and now I'd say they are the best slices along with TONY SLICE.

              Yes, better than SLICE OF NY, SPEEDERIA, GIOIA, LANESPLITTER, PI BAR.

              I do not include CHEESEBOARD, as that's a totally different beast. And not comparing to white table cloth, whole pie only places etc.

        2. bbulkow Jul 4, 2009 09:42 AM

          "little to choose between them"? Seriously? How can we have a pizza war with comments like that?

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          1. re: bbulkow
            wolfe Jul 4, 2009 11:11 AM

            As noted on a previous post none of these Berkeley places made it into the best 25 USA by GQ. It must be because of the fact that most are acceptable but none are outstanding.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/625522

            1. re: wolfe
              a_and_w Jul 7, 2009 11:01 AM

              No disrespect, but I wouldn't take that list as gospel. There are many bizarre choices and other more deserving places that didn't make it.

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                wolfe Jul 7, 2009 01:01 PM

                a_and_w, I just threw it out as the golden apple. I think it is a joke.

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                  a_and_w Jul 8, 2009 08:11 AM

                  I wondered about that after posting...my bad LOL!

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            katya Jul 6, 2009 05:13 PM

            This is funny because we went to Berkeley for the day on Friday to eat... starting with pizza lunches at both Pie in the Sky and Cheeseboard.

            Pie in the Sky is our thin crust Bay Area favorite. Love their cheese pizza (sometimes though it has a little too much cheese), and the have a great sauce. In the summers they close on weekends; the rest of the year they're only closed Sunday.

            Gioia has had positive recommendations on this board, too. I've only been there once but remember it being quite good.

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            Gioia Pizzeria
            1586 Hopkins St, Berkeley, CA 94707

            1. Robert Lauriston Jan 14, 2013 05:03 PM

              New place, Sliver, just took over the former Sportivo, seems to be a Cheese Board Pizza / Arizmendi knockoff. I guess anyone who's in favor of human trafficking should not go there.

              http://www.berkeleyside.com/2013/01/1...

              Pie in the Sky closed.

              Rotten City's very good.

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              1. re: Robert Lauriston
                psb Jan 16, 2013 10:50 PM

                FIELD REPORT:
                My CH associate was ill and couldnt make it to ROTTEN CITY so after some failed attempts to google "silver pizza" I made it into to SLIVER PIZZA a minute or two after they closed [9ish] ... they recognized me from CHEESEBOARD and gave me a couple of (free) slices and then chatted with me bit about the business. [nota bene, David Farris, I do have sufficient CB mojo to get in after hours :-)]

                In the pizza dept, they do seem to be rather closely and unabashedly cloning CB. The pizza of the day was the CB potato slice ... they even kinda said ... "you know, the one you love at CB". But since they were out of that, they gave me a clone of one of the CB tomato pizzas ... although maybe they used cherry tomatoes or some other small round one, instead of the roma or whatever CB uses. The crust was slightly diff, but I think that reflected the oven technology rather than a deliberate and conscious departure ... they apparently inherited a wood burning oven from the previous place, although I dont think they are cooking all the pizzas in there.

                "Are you going to do meat pizza?"
                "No, veg only"

                "Are you going to have other food?"
                "We have salads" ... so also following CB there.

                The slices are also identically priced at $2.50, although I dont know if that includes the "bonus slice".

                The big departure is they not only have beer but hard alcohol. In fact, they are even doing "fancy" cocktails like a SAZERAC! ... which is an interesting place to depart from the CB model.

                The one "elephant in the room" topic we didnt get to is "what does the mothership think of this" ... is this going to be friendly like the USSR-CUBA or a "SINO-SOVIET SPLIT?, with SHATTUCK AVE playing the part of the USSURI RIVER? ... we'll know if CB starts referring to SLIVER as "Margarine Pizzaiolos" I suppose.

                I believe they have a bar happy hr from 4-6.

                THEORY DISCUSSION:
                For people interested in INDUSTRIAL ORGANIZATION, this may be an interesting case of HOTELLING'S LAW and the LINEAR CITY MODEL. (Chowhound Urmi is planning to a case study).
                ObWikipedia for some introductory discussion:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotellin...

                Ok tnx.

                --psb

                p.s. Isnt BOBBY G PIZZA pedestrian in the extreme? Or, as with ROTTEN CITY, do I need to go back now that they have "matured"?

                1. re: psb
                  Robert Lauriston Jan 17, 2013 08:45 AM

                  I had Bobby G's for the first time recently, execution was off but good crust and quality ingredients, I'll give it another try.

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/562512

                  1. re: Robert Lauriston
                    ...tm... Jan 28, 2013 11:51 PM

                    I stopped by here for lunch last week and was amazed as to how closely it was a Cheeseboard clone, right down to the overly loud and unwanted (by me) "live jazz".
                    The line was to the door, but it only took a couple of minutes for me to order and get my slice (Cheeseboard-style with extra bonus sliver) and salad (Cheeseboard-style, which I had forgotten about until I started eating it, with whole slices of lettuce, much larger than bite-size).
                    All in all, it was a good Cheeseboard facsimile and very conveniently located to me, so I'll be back. I'm intrigued by the bar options, too.

                  2. re: psb
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                    jhinky Jan 17, 2013 05:36 PM

                    The alcohol diversification is probably because they have an alcohol license to go with the location. You never give one of those up!!
                    The other way in which they differ from the mother ship is that they are open later though only a little bit, right? That would be a good way to distinguish themselves, imagine cheeseboard pizza and drinks until 11 or even midnight! A chowhound can hope, right?

                    1. re: jhinky
                      psb Jan 17, 2013 06:10 PM

                      i asked how late they were open and they mentioned that they can pour booze until midnight ... i think there is a TBD factor to their schedule until students get back and they have a better model for demand.

                      i asked if they deliberately opened before UCB started or if that just kinda happened. that also got kind of a random answer.

                      again, i was mostly obsessing over whether this was friendly or hostile competition with CB. i have had the vague feeling for some time the new crop of expanded CB employees are more flakey than they used to be. it used to be super efficient and seems less so now ... like "the line is out bast cheeseboard/cheese ... if you arent going to run your second register now, what are you waiting for?" [i understand that is pointless if the bottleneck is pie production, but again, something seems off when you do the "longitudinal" analysis].

                      oh, also they -- like cheeseboard -- want to have music everynight. i got the impression anyway they were going to have some of the same bands. i.e. they arent going to be doing 80s cover bands or any kind of extreme pandering to say younger students. also, that may suggest this is a friendly situation.

                      the real product differentiation i am looking for is showing European Football matches. BTW, are you still obsessed with ZLATAN IBRAHIMOVIC?

                    2. re: psb
                      majordanby Jan 17, 2013 06:10 PM

                      hmmm, no meat...maybe nick's pizza beat them to it.

                  3. Civil Bear Jan 14, 2013 05:26 PM

                    What, no Blondies and Fat Slice!

                    1. Robert Lauriston Feb 23, 2013 04:31 PM

                      I got a pepperoni slice from the Lanesplitter takeout place in Albany. $3.25 for a quarter of a pie, is that their usual serving? Way bigger than at the sit-down places. On the other hand, the pizza, though cooked so it was pretty dark on the bottom, was not crisp.

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