633736 Fri Jul 03 11:04:03 -0700 2009 28 22 Quebec (including Montreal) 0 4827522 So I've just moved to NDG from Outremont/Mile End (awesome area, but just can't pay 850k or more for a semi-detached in Outremont). I'm getting to know the neighbourhood (I live at Monkland and Old Orchard) and its interesting mix of people (is it me or all the yuppie anglos cramming into the Tavern each night???). Anyway. I'm after suggestions of shops and restaurants someone who just moved in that area trying out (I'm close to the Villa Maria metro). Examples: good coffee? good fruit and veggie store? where to buy fish? baklavas? meat? I know, I know, I've realized I shouldn't be expecting the choice and selection you can get on the Plateau, but still, I'm looking for the not-to-be-missed of the neighbourhood. Thanks in advance for the help! P.S.: as an aside, can someone explain to me why there are no more baguettes at Première Moisson passed 5:30pm every day, even though the place closes at 8pm? The staff there couldn't come up with any reason that would make sense from a business standpoint... Fri Jul 03 11:04:04 -0700 2009 162549 Turpentine 1 4827530 fruits & veggies, meats, and baklava at Akhavan. as well as a great assortment of nuts & middle-eastern staples Fri Jul 03 11:06:39 -0700 2009 4827522 14157 C70 1 4827702 For fish: Chasse-Marée on Monkland (west of Marcil) For meat (and cheese): Le Maitre Boucher on Monkland (west of Harvard) For breakfast: Oxford Cafe on Sherbrooke (corner of Oxford, a small place where the owner claims she makes the best pancakes) For coffee: there's Cafe Wild Beans on Monkland (corner of Beaconsfield). I've never been there but it's seems to be a real roasting house. Welcome to the neighbourhood. Fri Jul 03 12:50:33 -0700 2009 4827522 285732 Foie Gras Lover 2 4830512 Ixnay those fish and breakfast suggestions. Try them though, you will see why... Best fish is at the CSL IGA - always fresh and the counter people are very knowledgeable. The fish place on Monkland will be a lot closer to you though... Oxford is a horrible place with horible owners who scream at clients and steal the waiters' tips. The secret to their "best pancakes" is that they use cake mix in the batter so it's fluffy and sweet. - So if you ever want panckaes like they make them just use 1/2 industrial pancake mix and 1/2 industrial cake mix.... Sun Jul 05 04:55:47 -0700 2009 4827702 80911 Arktik 3 4832512 Double ditto on Oxford. She abuses the waitstaff something awful. Never ever going back there. Rocky Montana on Sherbrooke has the best selection of fruit and veg in the 'hood, and the prices can't be beat. In case it hasn't been mentioned, the Korean grocer as Sherbrooke and Beaconsfield is impossible to walk out of empty-handed. Also ditto on the CSL IGA fish. Really nice guys, though maybe a bit out of your way. Don't you dare miss Bucharest, down on Decarie just below Cote St. Luc rd. Fabulous selection of E. European goodies, and to-die-for prepared food as well. Dad's on Sherbrooke does great homemade Indian to take out, for when you just don't feel like cooking. Not as complex as resto food, but a really good stand-by. Bonne Bouffe, also Sherbrooke near Wilson does the best Jamaican patties and jerk chicken in the area. Best chicken of the more conventional kind is Chalet BBQ at Sher/Addington. Mon Jul 06 05:43:44 -0700 2009 4830512 138034 bomobob 3 4832712 Thanks for the suggestion for fish. Now that I know about what's going on at the OC (stealing and screaming) I won't go back. Mon Jul 06 07:06:30 -0700 2009 4830512 285732 Foie Gras Lover 1 4828050 I know how you feel I just moved to the area myself from mile end.. For Lebanese food: Chase on Monkland is reasonably priced CHASE 5652 DE MONKLAND AVE, MONTRÉAL, QC H4A 1E4 in between Harvard & D'Oxford A bit over priced but they have some interesting take out food is Malibu Gourmet http://www.malibugourmet.com/contact.html Agora on Somerled: great fresh Greek food in a nice atmosphere with reasonable prices St.Viateur bagel is good for breakfasts and salads Greek Food: Lezvos on Decarie/Monkland (really close to Monkland Village) Next door to Lezvos is a wonderful Persian restaurant called Quartier Perse Breakfast/lunch dinner/ B & M on Summerled http://bmrestaurant.com/ Chalet Bar-B-Q Not sure if its still good but a few year ago Caveau Szechwan was pretty good American Szechwan. 6000, Monkland Montreal 514-488-2818 I like the bugers at Ye old Orchard.. Korean Hwang-Kum Korean Italian: Pasta Casareccia 5849, Sherbrooke O Montreal Fri Jul 03 16:07:15 -0700 2009 4827522 283184 Alyson777 2 4828310 All of the above are good suggestions except for perhaps BLM which is the epitome of mediocrity although their pizzas are decent enough in a pinch (however for pizza try Sul Viale instead). Fri Jul 03 19:04:59 -0700 2009 4828050 11493 eat2much 3 4828446 "except for perhaps BLM which is the epitome of mediocrity" I'm sure you meant B&M and not BLM who is a valued member of this community and not at all mediocre. Fri Jul 03 20:33:14 -0700 2009 4828310 18488 SnackHappy 4 4828788 Indeed....my bad! Sat Jul 04 04:37:15 -0700 2009 4828446 11493 eat2much 4 4829263 It's my favorite brunch in town! The menu is very large and there is always something for somebody to eat. Potatoes are COSMOS style which are delicious!! Very generous portions of eggs, Bacon/sausage/ and most importantly fruit Now I won't ever knock beauties or bagel etc... or so on.. but try getting that much fruit on your plate anywhere else??? Sat Jul 04 09:35:07 -0700 2009 4828446 283184 Alyson777 5 4829316 Thanks a lot for the suggestions so far, I'll try out Sul Viale tomorrow night. What is BLM exactly, and where is it? Googling it did not return much info. Sat Jul 04 10:06:09 -0700 2009 4829263 162549 Turpentine 6 4829320 BLM is a fellow chowhounder...I mistyped B&M Sat Jul 04 10:08:44 -0700 2009 4829316 11493 eat2much 3 4830530 Asean Garden is to asian food what B&M is to...well, everything else. They both have their merits and faults. Both have huge menues, are very generous and well priced but nothing really stands out as exceptional. Alyson is right to say that everyone will find something they like and both can accomodate big groups. Sun Jul 05 05:18:30 -0700 2009 4828310 80911 Arktik 1 4829359 EcollegeY on WIlson is really great for organic fruits, veggies and meat. They have the most amazing locally grown produce (especially the bagged greens). Sat Jul 04 10:27:29 -0700 2009 4827522 238373 bookends 2 4830520 Also try the Coop Maison verte on Sherbrooke; it's a lovely place to get fair trade coffee and eco cleaning products... Sun Jul 05 05:02:36 -0700 2009 4829359 80911 Arktik 1 4831794 Patisserie de Nancy has decent pastries - and a nice, if small, terrasse which is a very enjoyable place to sit in the morning for breakfast and coffee. Cha Guan tea store is on Monkland near Wilson, with an excellent selection of Chinese teas. In spite of the yuppie anglos, I like the food at Taverne (then again, people who live in glass houses...) Le Maitre Boucher is a great little store, IMHO, and there's a decent Provigo on Monkland as well, for basics. There's a small pizza place on Monkland right near Girouard (a few doors over from Multimags) that's not bad either. Sun Jul 05 18:11:56 -0700 2009 4827522 19331 cherylmtl 1 4831800 Don't miss Gryphon d'or tearoom on Monkland between Royal & Hampton for homemade scones, raspberry jam & shortbread. They also do a wonderful afternoon tea with advance notice, and sell all kinds of baked goods and frozen scones at their bakery a few doors down. Lunch specials daily. Sun Jul 05 18:15:49 -0700 2009 4827522 66614 kpzoo 2 4911183 I also have to put in a good word for Gryphon D'or. This is one of those small places with a real personal touch, and very good homey food. I have always enjoyed their lunch specials, they are fresh and very tasty. And the baked goods are lovely. The disadvantage is that you don't have a lot of choice in the lunch specials, they usually offer 2 or 3 dishes. But if you don't need a lot of choice, their food is fairly priced and very satisfying. I wish there were more of these kind of places! Sun Aug 02 14:04:20 -0700 2009 4831800 89969 moh 3 4911214 It was the Highland Games today so there may, I say may, be haggis at Gryphon d'or this week... rumour has it! Sun Aug 02 14:18:42 -0700 2009 4911183 66614 kpzoo 4 4911887 A fine haggis it is indeed! Hmm.. I must say I don't think of haggis as warm weather food though. Perhaps it will stay cold. Sun Aug 02 19:22:44 -0700 2009 4911214 89969 moh 1 4831999 Cafe 92 on Sherbrooke west of Cavendish is wonderful coffee and the owners are friendly and helpful. They now have ice cream on the menu too since they expanded next door. Cafe Grand is also a good place. --just across from Akavan on Sherbrooke. Sun Jul 05 19:48:19 -0700 2009 4827522 228296 williej 1 4835422 The pizza place cherylmtl mentionned is called Pizza Pinoli. I personally think they have the best poutine in the area. They bake the frits with cheese and sauce all together in the oven... YUMMMYYYY...! Also agree with cherylmtl Cha Guan tea house has very nice Chinese tea selection, plus their home-made cheesecakes are awesome! I admire alot the ready-to-go lunch box at Maitre Boucher, good quality food and prices are fair. I have to mention salad at Gourmet Malibu on Monkland corner Wilson, fresh and healthy but make sure you go at the beginning of the week, fresh salads are usually out at the counter on mondays. I think it might be the right thing to do for Premiere Moisson not to have a pastry chef to stay longer just to sell few dozens of baguettes that cost only $2 each? ...... just a stupid guess. Mon Jul 06 22:02:34 -0700 2009 4827522 1091174 kzk818 2 4836028 That's the name - Pizza Pinoli - couldn't think of it at the time! thanks, kzk818. AFAIK, Pain Dore and some Premiere Moissons receive their bread pre-made and partially cooked, and finish baking it in-house - so that could explain why they don't make more once they run out. The Sherbrooke location used to have this fancy bread oven right behind the sandwich prep area, and it's now gone (or at least well-hidden...), which unfortunately coincided with a drop in the quality of their bread, IMO. Tue Jul 07 07:24:22 -0700 2009 4835422 19331 cherylmtl 3 4854046 Ah, that would make sense actually. It would explain why their Outremont branch has clearly a baking area at the back, while I couldn't see anything like that at their Monkland branch. Bummer. Mon Jul 13 10:59:47 -0700 2009 4836028 162549 Turpentine 4 4903115 I thought i would report back on my earlier comment regarding the quality of the baguettes at the Premiere Moisson on Monkland. Sorry for my obsession on the topic, but a good baguette is essential to my quality of life (then imagine how tough it was to live in Chicago for 5 years...) So I actually contacted PM about the issue. First off, I have never been as impressed by customer service in my life. Someone replied to my email at 10:30pm on the same day, saying they were sending their chef boulanger to the Monkland branch the next day. Then the person responsible for customer relations contacted me and invited me to do a tour of the bakery. I can confirm that they do make their bread on the spot: at the back of the store, behind the small door is a very larger baking area, and I got to see how they make the bread and the ovens and all. It turns out that the lack of freshness was mainly coming from a turnover problem: employees behind the counter tended to leave the unsold morning baguettes in the basket, which means that's what you get by 5:30 once you come back from work. Because clients learned and decided not to buy baguettes then due to the low quality, the baker would notice that baguettes were not being sold out, so would not make more. And that would perpetuate the vicious cycle. This has been addressed and indeed, since then freshness increased significantly. Also, another problem this year is the high humidity we've been experiencing; this makes it more difficult to dose the right amount of water to add to the flour. So that was my good action of the month for the NDG community! Once again, very very impressed by their customer service, and learned that you are sometimes better off communicating your dissatisfaction (the franchisee was saying how difficult it can be to identify such problems when customers do not let them know.) Thu Jul 30 08:32:24 -0700 2009 4854046 162549 Turpentine 1 4856223 A lot of good suggestions have already been made so I'll just give my two cents: -Chasse-Maree has good quality fish but you pay a serious premium for it. As other have said the CSL IGA is very good for fish because it caters to a big Jewish community which is not always very big on meat. -Ye Olde Orchard is a great PUB and a fairly decent resto. Prices are very fair and the everything on the menu is good enough, though obviously not spectacular. -For MTL-style greek, Villa on Prud-homme and Sherbrooke is pretty good (their fries rock) -Both bakeries right on Monkland are very good, especially the P.M. which is quite large and always busy (=freshness) -There's a new sushi place that opened at the bottom of Marcil at Sherbrooke which is really affordable and BYOB (granted a bit odd for a sushi bar but still) -Akhavan is really good for Middle Eastern variety. As well, there is an Espositon nearby on Sherbrooke which has a nice selection of Italian cheese -Rocky Montana for fruit, no question! -Coffee and breakfast are harder....theres the quintessential NDG hangout Cosmos, which is great if you want a really badass breakfast. Avoid St. Viateur for anything but buying bagels themselves. The resto , I found, was really underwhelming and the plates were just plain boring. Bagels are great though, of course. For coffee I personally think you're better off going into Westmount Village, though I prefer Monkland 99% of the time. There's a good Italian place on Victoria just below Sherbrooke. There's also that French patisserie/cafe whose name escapes me (Red sign, second location on Laurier?) -Anyway, good luck in your new hood! Personally I find Monkland village to be a great place to spend a day, its not as happening as the plateau but its not as pretentious either Mon Jul 13 23:50:37 -0700 2009 4827522 290885 berbatov 2 4856383 "that French patisserie/cafe whose name escapes me" Patisserie de Gascogne. I find St. Viateur's coffee pretty good. Nice place for an evening cake & coffee. During the day it's too much of a madhouse of ladies lunching. Tue Jul 14 04:51:19 -0700 2009 4856223 14157 C70 1 4859012 After reading this thread, I'd like to add that Pasta Casareccia on Sherbrooke near Royal is also a good spot for Italian food. I especially like the Porcini sauce, my husband likes the Norcina sauce (truffles and sausage), while our best friend loves the gorgonzola and nut sauce. The house wine is rough, there is one opiniated waiter that makes me laugh, and I always leave with too much food behind my belt. Oh and the meat-stuffed deep-fried olives are delightful little fat bombs. EDIT. for coffee, Wild Beans has great espresso, but his opening hours are designed for his quality of life, not customers' convenience, and he takes only cash. Nice guy though. Tue Jul 14 17:17:52 -0700 2009 4827522 203842 TheSnowpea