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Chefpaulo Jun 28, 2009 07:54 AM

Where can one find the smooth, creamy genuine frozen soft ice cream (aka frozen custard made with real dairy products) that I relished as a child of the '50s? I gave up on DQ years ago after having their poly-sorbatized abomination one sweltering summer night and never returned. Last week, I tried Rita's blasphemy that was at almost room temperature and so full of air and fillers, it could have been mistaken for non-dairy dessert topping ( I chucked the white fluff and ate the waffle cone.)

To all who resided in or frequented Glenside back yonder, who remembers the Jack Frost stand at the corner of Limekiln Pike and Mt. Carmel Avenue? THAT was REAL soft ice cream and to which I hold all others as a standard. Where, out here in the western 'burbs, might we indulge again?

  1. curej Jun 28, 2009 08:53 AM

    You think YOU'VE got it bad. Try finding frozen custard in Birmingham, AL. I feel your pain. Especially in the summertime. By the way, even "good" soft ice cream is not the same as frozen custard...custard has egg yolks and is denser, among other things. See:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_custard

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-froze...

    We had a truly outstanding custard place called Papa's College Custard near us (in Tuscaloosa, AL) the first year or so after we arrived here, but as always seems to be the case in my culinarily jinxed life, once we discovered them, they went belly up. Great hybrid business model...they had great quality custard that they cut delicious ingredients into (in the style of Marble Slab or Cold Stone Creamery)....they did a thing with rich vanilla custard and oreo chunks that made me swoon. Anyway, I'm not helping you here, and for that I'm sorry. But good luck!! I'd say your chances are better than ours!!

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      Chefpaulo Jun 29, 2009 05:30 AM

      Thanks, and it looks like I might have found something local.

      Maybe you're devoid of good soft ice cream but at least you guys have waffle houses - an unknown phenomena up here. Many a Sunday morning I wish I could go out for a crispy pecan waffle, hickory smoked bacon and a side of grits with gravy. Only when I visit the cousins in South Carolina can I indulge......I think I'll give them a call and invite myself.

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      Laura D. Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM

      I would try the two "dueling" custard/soft-serve places in Roxborough on Ridge Avenue...Custard and Cakes Creamery and Dairyland. Also, I believe Zwahlen's in Audubon is supposed to be very good, though I am pretty sure they are closed on Sundays.

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        JohnnyKBar Jun 28, 2009 01:43 PM

        Yep, Zwahlen's is closed sunday's, but if you can go another time, it's pretty darn good. He travelled the country to find the best and then came back to recreate it. Their chocolates are good too. here's their link: http://www.zwahlens.com/

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          Chefpaulo Jun 28, 2009 07:28 PM

          Wow! And in my own back yard! I never heard of Zwahlen's and they've apparently been open for five years. I emailed them suggesting that they have a map link for directions.

          Mucho thanks and, for tomorrow night's dessert, I'm "outta here" (and will raise a soft ice cream to Harry K.)

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            mazza3 Jun 29, 2009 08:58 AM

            these were my recs. roxborough is the only place i know of (within city limits) that has custard stands....

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          the dog ate my homework Jun 29, 2009 02:00 PM

          Stopped at Custard and Cakes for the first time today, after lunching on cheesesteaks at D'Alessandro's. I truly haven't had frozen custard like that since ... well, I'm going to say since the '70s. I bought a six pack of the custard 'cupcakes' to share with the family fir dessert tonight. They are cupcake paperforms, filled with custard and frozen.

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            the dog ate my homework Jun 30, 2009 08:10 AM

            Scratch the praise for the custard cupcakes. Half of it is icky frozen frosting. The cones still deserve four stars, though

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          TeamPhilly Jul 2, 2009 01:26 PM

          Zwahlens in Lower Providence Township is one of the only places around here for authentic custard. Just ate there again this afternnoon. Dairyland in Roxborough moved to Main Street in Manayunk. They were kicked out due to a Ritas (which I don't care for) opening in their space. Custard and Cakes across the street is pretty good and makes good milkshakes. In the fall they start having Egg Nog and Pumpkin flavors which are awesome. I can never decide between the two so I get both. May as well die happy.

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            Karen K Jul 2, 2009 04:17 PM

            I've been to Zwahlens, but I remember ice cream (very good ice cream) rather than custard. Do Zwahlens serve both?

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            barryg Jul 2, 2009 08:30 PM

            Wow, Jack Frost. I used to go there in High School in the late '90's, it was great.

            Anyone know what's up with this place? It was completely renovated on the outside, and I assume inside, a few years ago but never reopened! What gives?

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              Otis Bezibes Jul 22, 2009 02:17 PM

              It reopened late April 2009. It's open every day but Sunday from 11am to 10pm. They're burgers are THE BEST - fresh meat formed into burgers on-site and flame-grilled. Fresh cut fries are AMAZING and NO ONE can hold a candle to their ice cream (hard & soft serve). Their water ice is WAY better than Rita's too.

            2. Den Jul 22, 2009 02:29 PM

              What a great thread Chef!

              When I was kid growing up in Plymouth Meeting we had a place called Kolva's on Butler Pike (right across the street was Rosie's but that would take some good memory) that we would walk or ride our bikes to and I've never found anything to compare. I guess those moments will never be repeated.

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                Chefpaulo Jul 22, 2009 02:53 PM

                Years ago, I had friends on Spring Lane in Roxborough and had a few Kolva cones on the way over Butler Pike to Ambler.Can't say I remember Rosie's.

                It seems that the other thread for Jack Frost in Glenside is still alive and well. Wow! They make hand cut french fries to order. Where do you see that anymore? I just spent the day visiting my old day camp in Fort Washington and am in a nostalgic mood. I needs me some french fries and a vanilla malt.

              2. xtownj Jul 24, 2009 11:41 AM

                If you are ever in NJ, the Custard Stand in Maple Shade is a fun place. When I lived in Maple Shade, I noticed that it is a bit of a religion for the locals. They line up for Custard even in the middle of the winter! Its about 5 minutes from the Cherry Hill Mall.

                http://www.yelp.com/biz/maple-shade-c...

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                  Itsreal Jul 18, 2010 05:30 AM

                  I realize it's been over a year since this post, but wanted to let you know a REAL Frozen Custard shop is under construction in Paoli, PA! It is made fresh daily with very little air and scooped, NO soft serve! The place is called Jake's Frozen Custard. You can check out the website www.jakesfrozencustard.com to learn more.

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                    Laura D. Jul 18, 2010 07:37 AM

                    Wow, this sounds really exciting!

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                      curej Jul 18, 2010 08:04 PM

                      Still can't understand why we folks down here in the hot South don't get any frozen custard!! You'd think it would sell like crazy down here!!

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                        FayeD Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM

                        Not sure where in the South you are, but there is an authentic frozen custard place in Kill Devil Hills on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. It is called Kill Devils and has great frozen custard.

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                          Chefpaulo Aug 27, 2010 01:34 PM

                          If Jake's is selling franchises, this might be the opportunity of a lifetime. Believe me, his recipe is the real thing. See if he's interested in opening down yonder.
                          CP

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                            curej Aug 27, 2010 02:41 PM

                            Sounds like some good leads! We actually had a shop open this summer named "Treat Yourself". They sell yogurt and custard out of self serve machines with a huge selection of toppings that you can add. You pay by weight. Our first trip there was disappointing. The custard was crystally and very waxy (a nasty crisco-like residue on the roof of your mouth afterward). We gave them another try recently, though, and things were vastly improved. Still not the best I've had, but if they succeed, others may be encouraged to tap this market.

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