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It's Official--Dim Sum Go Go and Chinatown Brasserie Best NY Dim Sum

Chandavkl Jun 26, 2009 05:35 PM

Well maybe not officially official, but I don't think you can find a greater authority on Chinese food these days than Jennifer 8 Lee of the New York Times. And I have to repeat my prior comments--they're unlikely, I had no (actually, negative) expectations before trying them, but I have to agree about these two places. Interesting to see Vegetarian Dim Sum House listed, too. Their snow pea leaf dumplings are definitely fantastic.

http://newyork.timeout.com/articles/r...

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    bearmi Jun 28, 2009 04:20 PM

    Glad to know that someone agrees with those of us who like DSGG and CB. What other places did you visit to make your final assessment? Red Egg? Jing Fong? Chatham Square?

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      Chandavkl Jun 28, 2009 11:06 PM

      Think I've been to most of the major Chinatown dim sum restaurants of the past decade--Golden Unicorn, 88 Palace, Ping's, Sunrise 27, Jing Star, King's Seafood, Chatham Sq, Oriental Garden, Jing Fong, Grand Harmony, Red Egg (definitely honorable mention), Sun Shine 27, Mandarin Court, Hee Seung Fung, Vegetarian Dim Sum, Golden Bridge and Nice Restaurant. Also a lot of the second tier places that have the dim sum out front (e.g., Ken's Asian, New Wonton Garden) that are too numerous to mention.

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        bearmi Jun 29, 2009 05:40 AM

        Wow you sure have been to many places in Chinatown! What do you think of the food (i.e., non-dimsum items) at Wonton Garden? I have wanted to visit but it's always crowded and sometimes I felt that the service isn't so good (i.e. when it's not crowded they just somehow "forget" to seat me).

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          Chandavkl Jun 29, 2009 10:04 AM

          Well New Wonton Garden was just a "front of the store" visit for me, i.e., restaurants that are not dim sum restaurants per se, but do sell common dim sum to walk-in customers from racks by the cash register. Dimsum at these types of places are generally serviceable, but unremarkable, with exceptions like Sun Sai Kay's baked bbq pork bun which is pretty good. Like you, I've never bothered for a sit down meal at New Wonton Garden, for several reasons. First of all I remember the days when virtually everything on Mott St. was unauthentic tourist fare, so I have a lingering skepticism about any restaurant on Mott that dates back any length of time. Also I'm not looking for another noodle house with proven venues like Wing Huang, Noodletown, East Corner Wonton, Eastern Noodles, Yummy Noodles etc. in the neighborhood. Consequently, I don't think a visit there is in the cards for me.

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            fourunder Jun 29, 2009 12:08 PM

            Can you believe it happened again.

            I personally like DSGG and CB, but also personally at this time, I am unwilling to give either the tile of best dim sum in NYas well.

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              Chandavkl Jun 29, 2009 03:53 PM

              In LA and SF dim sum restaurants have separated into two tiers--tier one being dim sum ordered off the menu and without carts, tier two being dim sum ordered off carts. (Vancouver, the runaway leader for Chinese food on this continent, apparently only has dim sum off the menu.) All the tier one cartless dim sum places are pretty much better than any tier two, carted dim sum restaurant. Consequently, it also makes logical sense for Dim Sum Go Go and Chinatown Brasserie to be at the top in New York. Red Egg, too. (Obviously not a fundamental law of nature, but neither is this pure coincidence.)

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                Simon Jun 29, 2009 04:50 PM

                i've had both cart and non-cart dimsum in Vancouver...

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                  scoopG Jun 29, 2009 06:28 PM

                  To pick nits: It is the San Gabriel Valley (CA,) the Bay area (CA) and Richmond - a suburb of Vancouver; not LA, not SF and not Vancouver. I guess LA, SF and Vancouver sound more exotic than SGV, Bay area and Richmond. And, Zen Fine Chinese Cuisine in Richmond, one of the best Chinese restaurants in the world outside of China according to Jennifer 8. Lee is now closed due to lack of business. Go figure.

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                    Chandavkl Jun 29, 2009 06:48 PM

                    Well when you speak with locals you can be more specific geographically, but you can't be as precise when you're not. A lot of people don't realize that Richmond, B.C. is the Chinese food capital of North America or the food in San Francisco Chinatown pales compared to the suburbs. It's like if you're visiting Italy you don't say you're from Yonkers, but rather you're from New York. You do point out a maddening thing about being a Chowhound, when the restaurant that makes the absolute best (fill in blank) in the world goes out of business. I hate it when that happens.

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                      scoopG Jun 29, 2009 06:59 PM

                      Well we don't have that problem in NY really in regards to Chinese food. And we don't need carbon-busting gaz gusslers to get to and fro. It is simply Chinatown or Flushing. What then, does that tell us about Vancouver/Richmond and J8Lee when Zen Fine Food can't draw a crowd to stay in business? A dining crowd she noted was mostly Chinese in a place voted "best new Vancouver restaurant" in 2005? Now closed. :(

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                bearmi Jun 29, 2009 04:30 PM

                I see.. Thanks for sharing other noodle/wonton places in Chinatown. I used to love Sweet-n-Tart Cafe but it has since closed (I know there is one in Flushing but when I am there I always end up eating Taiwanese at the Flushing Mall). I will have to check out some of the places you have mentioned (I have been to Noodletown and Yummy Noodles) some day...

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                  windycity Jun 29, 2009 06:40 PM

                  I used to like sweet n tart in flushing a lot but i feel like the quality of food has gone down significantly and that it started several years ago. Now when I eat there I notice more dirt specks.

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                    bearmi Jun 29, 2009 07:11 PM

                    Wow scary... glad I haven't been back for a while. That's the problem with a lot of Chinese restaurant... it's good.. for a short period of time then goes down hill and then finally shuts down!

        2. scoopG Jun 28, 2009 01:21 PM

          Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I think she has left the NYT though. I'll have to give the Vegetarian Dim Sum House another go.

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