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stained_pink Jun 23, 2009 08:37 PM

Hi,

I am looking to get my first knife "set"- I wont be buying a ready made set as per what I've read I only really need a few basic ones. What shops are good downtown or in the Plateau? Are there any restaurant supply stores?

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    silvertint RE: stained_pink Jun 24, 2009 04:23 AM

    I recently purchased knives from Ares Kitchen Supplies, http://www.arescuisine.com/ they seemed to have a large selection, they have locations in DDO,Laval, South Shore.

    I also know of Monas, on Park Av. but I have never been there http://en.monas.ca/

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      Maximilien RE: stained_pink Jun 24, 2009 06:11 AM

      There's probably a "Cuisinerie" of some sort on Mont-Royal blvd. (as far as I remember).

      Other more expensive options are "Les Touilleurs" and "La Maison D'emilie" both on Laurier St. (former is more east of Park , later is West of Park, both are walking distance of each other) for "designer" knives.

      And both of the above are at walking distance of Monas (as stated in the other post). for "restaurant" class knives.

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        thelonious777 RE: stained_pink Jun 24, 2009 08:38 AM

        This might seem out of left field, but if I had to buy new knives, I would try to find a store in North America that sells handmade Japanese knives and get a honking big chef's knife. Most places in Montreal have pretty similar stuff--the major brands. (Ares and Depres Laporte in Laval and Les Touilleurs would be the places I would visit) I love my Globals but think there is a lot to be said for cheaper knives with softer steel that you just sharpen daily. L'Academie Culinaire was selling knives with rubberized green handles that fit that bill. Name escapes me.

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          eat2much RE: thelonious777 Jun 24, 2009 09:03 AM

          The knives with the green rubberized handles are by Sanelli.

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            FoodNovice RE: eat2much Jun 24, 2009 06:35 PM

            Tzanet on Acadie in the Marché Centrale has good prices on Sanelli.
            http://tzanet.com/

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            bigfellow RE: thelonious777 Jun 24, 2009 10:19 AM

            I bought some new knives in Calgary before I moved back to Montreal. A Calgary Chef I know started importing handmade japanese knives, so I bought a few. He does ship.

            Kevin Kent
            http://www.knifewear.com/

          3. carswell RE: stained_pink Jun 24, 2009 09:27 AM

            A couple of years ago I bought a set of Henckels knives as a housewarming gift. Monas had the best everyday prices (about 10% less than elsewhere), though I ended up making my purchase at the Bay during their Boxing Day sale (15% off, IIRC). The Bay also carries Wurstoff and TV chef brand knives.

            In addition to the above-mentioned places, you could check out La Soupière on Ste-Catherine west of Guy and Paul's Finest, which has an impressive selection of European and Asian knives at good prices. www.paulsfinest.com

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              Foie Gras Lover RE: carswell Jun 25, 2009 08:36 AM

              I've bought a knife on Paul's finest website. Very good price and service is super fast. Also, Paul can give you some advices (which one to choose) on knives by email and you can (if you want to save more money) pick up your purchase at his office in Lachine.

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                RhondaB RE: Foie Gras Lover Jun 25, 2009 10:42 AM

                http://www.paulsfinest.com/

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                  unturtlesoup RE: RhondaB Jun 26, 2009 08:36 AM

                  Yes, yes, yes to Paul's Finest. He carries a large selection of knives from various suppliers (Wusthoff, various Japanese brands), and even though I am in Ontario, I've always had excellent experience dealing with his company. Very customer-satisfaction based, and as everyone above has stated, Paul is able to help tailor your order to your culinary needs.

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                    The Chemist RE: RhondaB Aug 21, 2010 12:23 PM

                    The only bad thing about this store is that you can't hold the knife before you buy it. I was interested in buying one of the more exotic Japanese hand made knives but decided against it in the end simply because I would never be able to evaluate how the knife felt in my hands before I purchased it (and it was going to be a CONSIDERABLE purchase). I don't think that this is much of an issue if you are going with well known German and Japanese brands, but for something more exotic, I would be remiss not to at least SEE the knife in person before spending hundreds of dollars.

                    I e-mailed the owner to see if it was possible to come and take a look, unfortunately, he declined.

                    That being said, he has the best selection and prices of knives that I have seen ANYWHERE.

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                      BLM RE: The Chemist Aug 22, 2010 10:04 PM

                      Paul said you can come by, only if you buy to pick-up? The Montreal Gazette article from several years ago, mentioned the writer was allowed to go to pick up his knife in Lachine(the one he ordered). Does he give any kind of guarantee on his products?

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                        The Chemist RE: BLM Aug 23, 2010 09:10 AM

                        I emailed him and asked if I could come buy to take a look and that I intended to not leave empty handed. He said no.

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                  JedZ RE: carswell Jul 8, 2009 03:00 PM

                  I bought from Paul's Finest and was happy with the price/quality. I don't mean to steer this thread away, but does anyone have an opinion on electric knife sharpeners? Specifically the Chef's Choice 120 (at Costco for $129). I bought a manual set-up (Spyderco) and just can't get it to work very well.

                   
                   
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                    The Chemist RE: JedZ Aug 21, 2010 12:26 PM

                    My opinion is that a good wet stone, occasional honing, and some elbow grease will serve you better than the best electric sharpeners. There is also something relaxing about sharpening your knives. It makes me feel closer to the knife, as ridiculous as that sounds.

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                  The Chemist RE: stained_pink Jun 25, 2009 04:37 AM

                  Anyone know where to buy Mondail knives in Montreal? I am very happy with my new Mondail fillet knife but I don't want to play the shipping (which cost as much as the knife itself).

                  1. afoodyear RE: stained_pink Jun 25, 2009 04:40 PM

                    You're definitely correct in assuming that building your own set is better than buying a "box" one, I think. I find its cheaper to buy knives online, even with shipping and handling, than anywhere I've found in Montreal - but unless you get a feel for the knife in person, it's hard to decide what to buy for yourself. Any of the decent kitchen supply stores will carry the Forschner/Victorinox knives, which are excellent and inexpensive for someone who has never bought knives before. I normally go to Mona's on Parc and Mount-Royalish, but mostly because of proximity than anything. Tzanet is where a lot of cooking schools buy their knives from, and they definitely do have a wide selection. Those would be my two recs, having never really extensively visited anything beyond that.

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                      BLM RE: stained_pink Jun 25, 2009 04:46 PM

                      Who has the best prices for Mac knives in Montreal?

                      1. mtb RE: stained_pink Jun 25, 2009 06:43 PM

                        Agree that La Soupiere is a good option if you're only going to buy a few essentials, they have a good selection of Globals, and you can likely negotiate about 10% off if you pay cash. Deco Decouverte is good if you're looking for Wusthof, I saw the 9-inch chef's, serrated bread, and paring knives recently... and FYI, costco.ca currently has a very tempting offer of a 10-pc set of Henckels for $225 that I'm considering, probably can't do better than that for the price.

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                          Arktik RE: stained_pink Jun 26, 2009 10:19 AM

                          Monas on Park is a good bet - that's where they send the new ITHQ students to get their first knife kit.

                          Also, if you don't mind waiting a bit, as per another thread, Cuisine Gourmet might be having a 40%+ off sale soon so that might be a good time to get some good knives on the cheap...

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                            épikurien RE: stained_pink Jun 27, 2009 10:06 PM

                            Consumer Reports rated kitchen knives. Here they are from the best to the surprisingly worst.

                            Henckels Twin Select
                            91%

                            Henckels Twin Professional "S"
                            90.

                            Wüsthof Culinar 8907
                            89.

                            Wüsthof Trident Classic #8418
                            89.

                            Henckels Four Star
                            87.

                            Tramontina Professional L-400/03
                            87.

                            Forged Rosewood
                            83.

                            Messermeister Meridian Elite
                            82.

                            Ginsu Chikara
                            82.

                            Porsche Chroma Type 301
                            82.

                            Chef's Choice Trizor Professional
                            81.

                            Henckels Miyabi D
                            81.
                            Wüsthof Grand Prix II 8226
                            80.

                            Victorinox 7.7243.8
                            80.

                            Mercer Genesis by Mercer M0 30768
                            79.

                            Kershaw Shun Classic DMS300
                            78.

                            Calphalon Kantana Series KNS08V
                            78.

                            Oxo Good Grip Professional
                            78.

                            Chicago Cutlery Metropolitan
                            78.
                            Wüsthof Emeril Professional
                            77.

                            Wüsthof Le Cordon Bleu #9845
                            76.

                            Henckels Twin Signature
                            76.

                            Henckels Twin Five Star
                            76.

                            Henckels Twin Gourmet
                            75.

                            Mundial Future 4100-10
                            74.

                            Chicago Cutlery Walnut Tradition
                            74.

                            Chicago Cutlery Insignia
                            73.

                            Calphalon Contemporary KNS15C
                            72.

                            Lamsonsharp Silver Block 6 Pc Set 39967
                            72.

                            Viking VCSR0106
                            71.

                            Global G-237
                            71.
                            Rachel Ray Furi Gusto-Grip
                            70.

                            Scanpan Classic 9900
                            70.

                            Culinary Institute of America Master Collection Hyde Park
                            69.

                            Scanpan Damastahl 0700
                            68.

                            Solicut First Class
                            67.

                            Forschner Forged #48890
                            66.

                            Henckels Classic
                            65.
                            Kershaw 9900 Series
                            64.

                            Sabatier Loire (Pakkawood) 14 Piece 7098014
                            63.

                            Hampton Forge Contempo (Target)
                            60.

                            KitchenAid Professional Series KA1SB16TN
                            59.

                            Paula Deen 51484
                            58.

                            Chicago Cutlery Fusion
                            56.

                            Farberware Pro Forged FPF14N
                            56.

                            Cooks Elite (JCPenny)
                            53.

                            Martha Stewart Collection Triple Riveted
                            49 <- ha-ha, so much for the queen of the household!

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                              The Chemist RE: épikurien Aug 21, 2010 12:31 PM

                              This is probably not a good test. Some very very good brands of knives don't come fully sharpened out of the box. Also, you would have to use a knife for a long time and re-sharpen it a few times to get a good sense for how good it is. Also, the grip is a very personal thing. All in all, I think it's safe to dismiss many of these recommendations.

                              There are some brands on there rated WAY lower than they should be from experience. Ginsu above Shun? That more or less invalidates this study. It's like like trusting the pallet of someone who rates Thai Express over Bangkok...

                            2. afoodyear RE: stained_pink Jun 28, 2009 08:59 PM

                              Out of curiosity, does anyone know if someone is selling Rada knives here? These were my go-to knives to pick up for people that obviously need better knives when I was living in Alberta, but for someone who doesn't really give a damn either way. $13 for an 8" chef knife made of surgical steel and brushed aluminum, surprisingly easy to take care of and resharpen and cuts like, well, surgical steel (a carrot-cutting scalpel.) You can order online, but it's nice to be able to head into a shop and pick things up.

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                                stained_pink RE: stained_pink Jul 2, 2009 02:55 PM

                                Thanks for all the recs everyone!
                                I am definitely going to check out some of the stores (I've bought from Pauls Finest in the past, but knives are def something I want to get a tactile feel for)
                                I am looking to spend about $500 - what essentials should I be looking for? I dont currently own any knives save for some Ikea ones.

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                                  SnackHappy RE: stained_pink Jul 2, 2009 03:48 PM

                                  All you need is a chef's knife, a paring knife and a bread knife. Start with those and if later on you really feel like you need a boning, fileting or fruit knife you can always get them then. But I would start out with just the three at first. You'll also need a honing steel and maybe a magnetic knife holder which is tons more convenient than a block and let's you look at your beautiful cutlery.

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                                    Campofiorin RE: stained_pink Jul 3, 2009 07:11 AM

                                    I'd really suggest The Bay as the Henckels go on sale fairly often. I've got a Twin Select chef knife and I'm really happy with it. Normally sells for around $165, got it at 25% less, which is the usual discout on kitchen knives.

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                                      SnackHappy RE: Campofiorin Jul 3, 2009 08:17 AM

                                      Everything at the Bay is always on sale. Whether it's 15%, 20% or 25% off, I think that if you do a bit of sleuthing you'll find that the Bay's sale prices are about equivalent to the regular prices at Zeller's and Home Outfitters / Déco Découverte for the same items.

                                      The bottom line being that the Bay's sales are not real sales. They 're just manipulating the prices to make you think you're saving money. It's not as blatant as what they do at Benix or Le Rouet, but it doesn't really inspire trust AFAIC.

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                                      afoodyear RE: stained_pink Jul 3, 2009 07:12 AM

                                      This is now OT for "Quebec and region" so I'm not sure if the mods are going to bump the thread, but anyway:

                                      $500 will be more than sufficient for everything you need.
                                      Cooks Illustrated released a knife guide a couple years ago, for what to look for, that can be found here - http://www.cooksillustrated.com/image... - it's a great basic guide for people getting into knives, I think.

                                      Some Comparisons, also from CI:
                                      Paring knives: http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equip...
                                      Serrated knives: http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equip...
                                      Chef knives: http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equip...

                                      Like SnackHappy says, a chef's knife, paring knife and bread knife are really all you need - I'd add a less expensive carving knife and fillet knife to the equation too, depending on how much meat you're cutting into at home. Not exactly a knife, but buying a decent "speed peeler" really helps out in the kitchen too, if you don't have one.

                                      I use these at home...
                                      Chef knife: Global 8" chef knife ($99 on amazon), Victorinox 10" chef knife ($27 on amazon), Rada 7" chef knife ($20 at farmer's market
                                      )Paring Knife: Victorinox 3 1/4" paring knife ($6 on amazon)
                                      Bread knife: Victorinox 10 1/4" bread knife ($29 on amazon)

                                      Even the "best" paring knife won't set you back a lot, and even the more expensive chef knives shouldn't set you back more than $200 even if you're paying steep prices. Put the rest of the money towards a nice butcher block, a honing steel, a whet stone, a holder and still have some leftover for some new pans and groceries :)

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                                        bigfellow RE: afoodyear Jul 3, 2009 07:52 AM

                                        I tend to buy the 3 pack of paring knives from Sysca for $11.

                                        I got my Macs from the Food Network Canada originally. Now I buy them direct from Mac.

                                        I bought my Victorianox and Forschners from a store that specializes in them in Edmonton.

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                                      don Genero RE: stained_pink Aug 21, 2010 12:14 PM

                                      Cuisine Gourmet on Monkland has 40% off Wusthof right now! I lucked out as I went there today just to look at the Wusthofs and today just happened to be the first day of the sale. Wound up grabbing a Wusthof "Classic" 8 inch (wide version) shef's knife. regular $185 for $110!! this knife feels like it'll be a pleasure to use. Up until now I have been using a cheap spanish-made henkels set.

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                                        princess kiki RE: stained_pink Aug 22, 2010 08:57 AM

                                        http://www.emouleur.com/

                                        it's the best place ever.

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                                          ricknelcan RE: stained_pink Aug 22, 2010 06:33 PM

                                          Did you try Elephant, right after St. Charles in the West Island, also know as Dansco outlet. If you need the phone number or directions, message me. Great knives, kitchen supplies etc.

                                          Richard

                                          1. eoj RE: stained_pink Aug 23, 2010 12:25 AM

                                            Monas and La Soupiere is where I'd check now. (The La Soupiere down on St-Catherine always seems to have the Henckels on sale.) But honestly, the set of knives we have is mostly from The Bay and I'd happily recommend it.

                                            For a first set of knives, I'd suggest a large chef's knife, a slicer, and a paring knife, plus a bread knife. We still have the 3-piece Henckels set that my husband bought when he went to university (I think it came from the Bay in Toronto) and it had the first 3 of these knives. I believe it cost about $125 at the time. They are still great more than 10 years later and we'll probably always have them. I don't think you need to spend anywhere near $500 to get a high quality set of basic knives. You're paying for more than functionality if you spend that much.

                                            The bread knife we have is also Henckels, but a super cheap plastic-handled one from Cdn Tire (I think it was $20). However, we've had it for a good many years (6+) and it's still going strong, so don't overspend on the bread knife. We've found with 2 of us cooking that buying a second paring knife was worth it (and it's probably also partly why we like having both the chef's knife and the slicing knife, since I'm happy to use the latter if the chef's knife is in use already).

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