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<topic>
  <id>630742</id>
  <title>Summer Wines</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jun 23 12:49:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>29</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>34</id>
    <name>Wine</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4798883</id>
        <content>Warm weather brings a yearning for certain wines. Living in San Francisco, the fog can dampen the feeling but when I do escape the fog I tend to reach for Rieslings, Chenin Blancs, ros&#233;s &amp; Zinfandels. What about you? Do you have certain wines you like to have with warmer weather?</content>
        <published_at>Tue Jun 23 12:49:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>180467</id>
          <name>WineUnleashed</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4798936</id>
      <content>Dry Creek Fume Blanc, any decent pinot grigio</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 13:02:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>151448</id>
        <name>carol land</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4798968</id>
      <content>We definitely drink more Rose and Vino Verde in the summer. Probably more of other white wines (sauvignon blanc, pinot grigio, various rhone varietals and various white blends) also as temperatures climb. In general, we do not drink a lot of zinfandel, but almost all of the ones we open accompany the summer barbecue season.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 13:08:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>78406</id>
        <name>scrappydog</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4799006</id>
      <content>Riesling, Muscadet, Torrontes, Arneis, Falanghina. And all sorts of ros&#233; wines.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 13:17:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>196217</id>
        <name>Brad Ballinger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4799025</id>
      <content>Ooohhh I forgot about Falanghina. I just LOVE that varietal. I should also list Albari&#241;o.
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 13:22:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4799006</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>180467</id>
        <name>WineUnleashed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4800025</id>
      <content>That's a good list, Brad. 

Add to that Gavi, Ribolla Gialla, Semillon, and cold Champagne!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 18:42:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4799006</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18222</id>
        <name>maria lorraine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4801880</id>
      <content>IF Semillon is on my list, it has to be COLD. Ribolla Gialla for "heavier" white wine fare--at least based on the few I've had.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 09:32:30 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4800025</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>196217</id>
        <name>Brad Ballinger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4802215</id>
      <content>Yup on the Ribolla Gialla. Though all are not "thick." I love Semillon at slightly below cellar temp; the fruit is round and lemony then. White Bordeaux (blend with SB) is my favorite way to have it.

And, I forgot one of my favorites: Rousanne. Love that varietal. 

Marsanne, too. And Pinot Gris.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 10:56:38 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4801880</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18222</id>
        <name>maria lorraine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4802268</id>
      <content>For me, in the summer, I like a little levity on the palate&#8212;thus, the lighter white varietals. I usually reserve Semillon, Bordeaux Blanc &amp; champagne for other times of the year. So glad I asked for it is interesting what people prefer. 

ML and BB, I would opt for the colder temp for "heavier" fare. I have even chilled down some reds when it is warm outside.

Another addition, I will do flips for prosecco or cava during the summer.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 11:15:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4802215</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>180467</id>
        <name>WineUnleashed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4802808</id>
      <content>Yes!  And Greco di Tufo and groovy.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 13:34:09 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4800025</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10761</id>
        <name>Aaron</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4826954</id>
      <content>In the FWIW mode (mood?), Champagne is pretty much an "all year 'round" thing for us, as opposed to a "Summertime wine," but a Vin de Bugey-Cerdon -- like that from Patrick Bottex (imported by Kermit Lynch) or the Domaine Renardat-F&#226;che (Louis/Dressner) that carswell mentions below -- is pretty much the quintessential warm weather sparkler at our house . . .

As for S&#233;milion -- some white Bordeaux are wonderful during the warm weather (typically Fall, rather than Summer, in the SF Bay Area, but with global warming -- who knows?), but for us, it's mostly Entre-deux-Mers. More serious whites from Pessac-L&#233;ognan and Graves, or so-called (and incorrectly) "dry Sauternes" like Ch&#226;teau Y, R, G, etc., along with S&#233;milions from producers like L'Ecole No. 41, Ahlgren, and Kalin get more use at our house in the cooler months.

Cheers,
Jason</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 03 07:07:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4800025</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28122</id>
        <name>zin1953</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4849996</id>
      <content>Jason, while in Healdsburg this past week picked up a bottle of the Saxon Browne Cricket Creek 2007 Alexander Valley S&#233;milion specifically to acquaint myself with the varietal. Wondering how this compares with your reco's? TIA

Cheers,

Dave</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 11 18:09:59 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4826954</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18150</id>
        <name>PolarBear</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4799980</id>
      <content>I like Cotes du Rhone in the Summer</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 18:25:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>323413</id>
        <name>thegourmetbachelor</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4800140</id>
      <content>What makes it more appealing to you in summer versus other seasons?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 19:20:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4799980</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26180</id>
        <name>Chinon00</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4800362</id>
      <content>I'm not sure...possibly Rhone Valley wines pair very well with BBQ and Cote du Rhone tends to have less tannin than other Rhone wines.  So a bottle of Cote du Rhone can bring a table of casual wine tasters and wine experts together. What do you like to drink in the Summer?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 23 20:49:14 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4799980</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>323413</id>
        <name>thegourmetbachelor</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4802266</id>
      <content>Agree with your thoughts on Cotes du Rhone. CdR is one of our current favorite "house" reds. We like it for the same reasons you suggest. (We seldom find one that we do not like, and we generally consider them a good value given the quality.) We pair them with a fairly broad variety of dishes. The only difference is, I think we drink them fairly consistently throughout the year without regard to the seasons. Of course, here in SOCAL, the concept of  "seasons" generally involves less extreme variation in climate than some other locales.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 11:14:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4800362</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>78406</id>
        <name>scrappydog</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4822620</id>
      <content>Speaking of Cote du Rhone..i'm totally enjoying this 2005 Coudoulet de Beaucastel. It's slightly one dimensional but I like the dimension : )</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 01 16:21:47 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4802266</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>323413</id>
        <name>thegourmetbachelor</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4826955</id>
      <content>Red AND white . . .</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 03 07:07:50 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4799980</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28122</id>
        <name>zin1953</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4801154</id>
      <content>Almost any New Zealand Sauvingon Blanc. Even when chilled may be more than they should, they have a crispness than is very refreshing in the dog days of summer (which have already started down here in FL.)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 06:04:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15712</id>
        <name>cavandre</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4801736</id>
      <content>Verdejo, grenache blanc, albarino, tons of rose, txakoli </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 08:53:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>74451</id>
        <name>vinosnob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4801884</id>
      <content>Do a combo--Txakoli Rosado. Good ones available from Ameztoi and Gurrutxaga.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 09:33:27 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4801736</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>196217</id>
        <name>Brad Ballinger</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4802382</id>
      <content>Yup!  Already gone through a half case of the Ameztoi rose.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 11:46:54 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4801884</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>74451</id>
        <name>vinosnob</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4802067</id>
      <content>Good dry Roses deffinitely have more place in my warm weather drinking than at other times.

Chenin Blanc, Scheurebe (Spatlese) from the Pfalz, and SBs all also seem a bit more to my liking.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 10:18:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50041</id>
        <name>whiner</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4802079</id>
      <content>A good Gruner Veltliner (I particularly like Hoepler). In summer I also love to try the lovely light reds from Provence - Coteau d'aix en Provence in particular, and all its cousins.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 10:21:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>270888</id>
        <name>shaogo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4805047</id>
      <content>Roses from Provence!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 25 08:24:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1088443</id>
        <name>wineman13</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4810257</id>
      <content>Any non-fruit candy rose below $10, esp Ciro, Corbieres, Bergerac; Soave Classico, Verdicchio di Matelica, Greco di Tufo; Clare Valley Riesling; Touraine sauvignons, Entre deux Mers, Picpoul de Pinet. Chilled lightish Cotes du Rhone, Rosso Conero and Vapolicella, Bergerac/Cotes de Castillion. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jun 26 23:22:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>249467</id>
        <name>bob96</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4817087</id>
      <content>Muga Rose from Spain, Campo Grande Orvietto from Antinori</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 29 23:06:07 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>192955</id>
        <name>wineman3</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4818946</id>
      <content>Summertime, Rose becomes our "red" more or less, except for a few Pinot Noirs or our "barbecue blends," like Marietta Cellars' Old Vine Red.

Love love love whites in the summer.  Especially the crisp, light ones like Albarino, Friulano, and our quick fix, Vinho Verde.

White Bordeaux, Sauvignon Blanc, Gavi, Fiano, Moschofilero and the list goes on.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 30 13:40:07 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>52499</id>
        <name>ChefJune</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4824149</id>
      <content>Muscadet, rose, sancerre, albarino, beaujolais, loire reds, dolcetto, barbera, rueda, so many good ones.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jul 02 07:55:51 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>174659</id>
        <name>Vlajos</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4825902</id>
      <content>The main additions to this summer's rotation:
- Renardat-Fache's Bugey Cerdon 
- Domaine Alzipratu's 2008 Corse-Calvi "Fiumeseccu", the most vibrant ros&#233; I've tasted this year
- Castello di Ama's 2008 Rosato
- Bruno Clair's 2007 Marsannay ros&#233;
- Selbach's 2007 MSR Riesling QbA
- Muller-Catoir's 2007 Pfalz Riesling trocken QbA
- Gamay-based reds from the Loire and Beaujolais, lightly chilled TYVM
- Some of the few big New World wines (Australian Shirazes, California Zins, South African Pinotages, Argentinean Malbecs, etc.) that always seem to end up in my cellar, since the only thing I can conceive of pairing them with is grilled red meat (grilling season is roughly May through October chez nous).

Other than those, I can't think of any strictly seasonal quaffers, though I do shy away from high alcohol wines (too easy to overdo it when you're thirsty because of the heat) and do find myself even more attracted than usual to brisk acidity.
</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jul 02 17:37:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4798883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10520</id>
        <name>carswell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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