629372 Fri Jun 19 12:03:11 -0700 2009 3 32 Chains 0 4788050 I don't want to get into a discussion of the relative merits of Noah's bagels, but I got some bagels today from my local and found them spngier and more wonderbready than I remember. Has anyone else noticed a change recently? They seemed more like the grocery store bagged type than fresh baked. I know there are better bagels in the world, they're just not in my neighborhood. Fri Jun 19 12:03:11 -0700 2009 10784 Scrapironchef 1 5129904 I'm glad you posted this so I didn't have to start a new thread and rant endlessly. Yes, their bagels have become very wonderbready. I had lox and cream cheese on a untoasted whole wheat bagel today and it even tasted under baked. They also screwed up my order twice, No more Noah's for me. I'm either going to make my own or switch to other breads to have lox and cream cheese with that are are better than their bready bagels. Like you there are no other bagel shops in my neighborhood. Sun Oct 25 15:23:47 -0700 2009 4788050 13030 free sample addict aka Tracy L 2 5133021 Consider trying Thomas's bagels if your supermarket carries the "everything" version -- for a supermarket bagel, they have a nice "water" bagel chew. Pricey but nice when I find them on sale. Mon Oct 26 17:07:19 -0700 2009 5129904 14515 Stephanie Wong 3 5133398 Thanks, Ill give Thomas' a try. After my disappointing breakfast yesterday, I am craving bagels, lox and cream cheese even more than before. Mon Oct 26 19:42:38 -0700 2009 5133021 13030 free sample addict aka Tracy L