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Homemade Ice Cream?

jalebiwallah Jun 18, 2009 02:05 PM

There are an awful lot of new ice cream, frozen custard and gelato shops in town these days many if not all claiming to make the ice cream themselves. While I don't doubt they all FREEZE the ice cream themselves, I'm fairly certain many or most use pre-made mixes (mostly from Snoqualmie Gourmet). While I like Snoqualmie Gourmet ice cream, this still seems a bit like cheating. So who out there knows of some places that definitely make there own mixes from scratch - and don't even try to list Molly Moon's, as she freely admits on her website she buys pre-sweetened, stabilized and pasteurized dairy from Snoqualmie Gourmet.....

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    alki_chick RE: jalebiwallah Jun 18, 2009 02:56 PM

    I believe Full Tilt Ice Cream over in White Center makes their own from scratch.

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      mrnelso RE: alki_chick Sep 7, 2009 02:57 PM

      They get their base from snoqualmie, but the flavors are all theirs. Mango Chile - oh yeah.

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      tulipbabette RE: jalebiwallah Jun 18, 2009 07:51 PM

      How about Olympic Mountain Ice Cream, out of Shelton? Usually sold only in restaurants or ice-cream stands in grocery stores. Great stuff, I think, but I don't know if they make it from scratch.

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        BallardFoodie RE: jalebiwallah Jun 18, 2009 08:52 PM

        I cannot say for sure, but I'm pretty sure that Empire Ice Cream does their own (they usually list the 3-5 ingredients on their packaging). They are always at the Ballard Farmer's market and some others, I believe. They have a lot of good stuff.

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          Jeffo405 RE: BallardFoodie Jun 18, 2009 08:54 PM

          Mora on Bainbridge Island. (Also Bellevue Square, but the BI location has a better feel.) Check them out at http://www.moraicecream.com.

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            jalebiwallah RE: Jeffo405 Jun 20, 2009 08:27 AM

            I've heard about this place for years but have never been.....anyone have a review of it they'd like to post?

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              creepygirl RE: jalebiwallah Jun 20, 2009 07:26 PM

              I visited the Bellevue Square location frequently until they closed (much to my dismay). I thought some of their flavors worked a lot better than others, but the ice cream tasted always tasted astoundingly fresh and pure, if that makes any sense. The dulce du leche with shaved chocolate is incredible. Also liked the sabayon. I haven't found any ice cream in Seattle proper that compares to Mora.

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                not the bad Steve RE: creepygirl Jun 22, 2009 01:31 PM


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                  jalebiwallah RE: not the bad Steve Jun 23, 2009 10:22 AM

                  thanks for the recommendation - I think I may make the trip over to try Mora today. Has anyone heard of Pretty Kitty? Supposedly opening soon at 47th and Roosevelt with "organic" (their quotation marks, not mine) ice cream.

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          patriciajane RE: jalebiwallah Jun 18, 2009 09:47 PM

          Empire Ice Cream does make their own. They only use a few ingredients, and everything they buy is local. Even the sugar (from Idaho). For their flavorings, if they can't get it at the farmers market, they won't use it.

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            jalebiwallah RE: patriciajane Jun 19, 2009 07:43 AM

            Yes, Empire does and so does half-pint (another farmer's market vendor). I'm not sure about Full tilt, I believe they use base from Snoqualmie Gourmet (as does Husky deli). I asked Old School Frozen Custard yesterday and they say the get a mix from the midwest. Anyone know anything about Bluebird on Capitol Hill (yet to open)?

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              paulj RE: patriciajane Jun 19, 2009 12:12 PM

              Idaho sugar - is it that 'yucky' beat stuff? Can't they stretch the 'locovor' stuff and used genuine evaportated cane juice from Hawaii? :)

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                Oregonian2 RE: paulj Oct 18, 2009 06:27 PM

                Still cracks me up to see "evaporated cane juice" instead of "(raw) sugar" on ingredient lists.

                Such creativity!

                :-) :-)

                P.S. - I'm originally from Hawaii.

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                  dagrassroots RE: Oregonian2 Oct 18, 2009 08:09 PM

                  My understanding is that they are different. Evaporated cane juice is less processed than regular sugar.

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                    EbonyEyedEnigma RE: dagrassroots Oct 23, 2009 01:14 PM

                    Evaporated cane juice is pretty much just sugar, but it is less processed (so unlike refined sugar) it retains more of the trace nutrients found in sugar cane (vitamins and minerals). The only difference in the processes used to isolate these substances on an industrial scale is one goes through one processing step more than the other, evaporated cane juice does not undergo the same degree of processing that refined sugar does; but has the same amount of calories as sugar.

                    Be well,

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                      paulj RE: EbonyEyedEnigma Oct 23, 2009 06:23 PM

                      How is it different from the raw brown sugar that you can get in cone shapes in Latino markets (piloncillo)? That has a rather strong molasses taste.

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              jenn RE: jalebiwallah Jun 19, 2009 09:14 AM

              "don't even try to list Molly Moon's, as she freely admits on her website she buys pre-sweetened, stabilized and pasteurized dairy from Snoqualmie Gourmet....."

              Where does it say that on the website? I'm not saying you are wrong but I just can't find it and I looked all over the "about" section.

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                bluedog67 RE: jenn Jun 19, 2009 10:38 AM

                Even if MM's does use pre-stabilized dairy, all their flavors are their own, done on site with local ingredients and Snoqualmie is a local, pretty wholesome source for ingredients. Why is that so bad?

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                  jalebiwallah RE: bluedog67 Jun 20, 2009 08:26 AM

                  You can find the details on the MM blog post http://mollymoonicecream.blogspot.com...

                  I like Snoqualmie Gourmet, don't get me wrong, and understand why many if not most of the local ice cream shops use their bases (though it still isn't clear to me whether each shop has them make a custom base or they all get pretty much the same). I'm just curious who goes that extra mile to make ice cream from scratch.

                  At the same time I should also admit I think MM is highly overrated and I make better stuff at home (from scratch).

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                    christy319 RE: jalebiwallah Jun 21, 2009 10:34 PM

                    Yeah there's a thread here where a bunch of us agree with you about MM....my theory is that the MM lovers have been eating Ben and Jerry's their whole lives, thinking that THAT is great ice cream, and in comparison, MM is pretty good.

                    Has anyone seen ice cream at Fran's lately? Last time I was in the freezer was gone. Their lemon ice cream was unbelievable (the burnt sugar was fantastic too). It was really busy in the store so I didn't get a chance to ask the staff about it.

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                      not the bad Steve RE: christy319 Jun 22, 2009 01:31 PM

                      Fran's insiders say that the city/county/state made some change to its regulations about storing and serving ice cream that made it impractical to continue in their stores.

                      I miss it too.

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                      staffstuff RE: jalebiwallah Jun 23, 2009 04:32 PM

                      I agree about Molly Moon's being very overrated. I was expecting so much more from them as a result of the 'buzz' around town and their long lines and high prices. I've tasted all their flavors and think only their chocolate ice cream is special...but not special enough IMO. Their maple-walnut is remarkably bad...and the strawberry/balsamic is just plain wierd-tasting bordering on awful.....their 'regular' strawberry is dull ( and that's a hard one to make dull).

                2. gmm RE: jalebiwallah Jun 19, 2009 08:50 PM

                  I believe Theno's Dairy in Redmond makes their own ice cream. I know their ice cream used to be called Vivian's Pride, but the ice cream carton photos on the Theno's website are just labeled "Theno's Dairy Gourmet Ice Cream." Anybody know what the scoop (ha!) is on this?


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                    christy319 RE: gmm Jun 21, 2009 10:27 PM

                    Wow, I can't believe Theno's is still there. I grew up nearby and we used to get milk there until they sold their land and their cows.

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                      bluedog67 RE: christy319 Aug 21, 2009 02:18 PM

                      I had the recent pleausre of trying Parfait ice cream - totally from scratch and very few ingredients. Really delightful.

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                        christy319 RE: bluedog67 Aug 23, 2009 01:39 PM

                        By totally from scratch do you mean they got around the rule in the first post somehow? Or is it like everywhere else that uses a Snoqualmie base with their own flavorings?
                        I actually tried to get some of this in the Ladro parking lot today but I was told they weren't open yet.

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                          bluedog67 RE: christy319 Aug 24, 2009 12:10 PM

                          I was told by the owner that EVERYTHING is from scratch. She starts w/ MILK, CREAM, EGGS. We discussed at length, including the "rumor" that there is some health code issue. She says nay, nothing special about it; that she got her license easily by having a qualified commercial kitchen and recipes that include heating custards to appropriate temp.

                          and it was really really good

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                    mrnelso RE: jalebiwallah Aug 26, 2009 04:20 PM

                    Check out Full Tilt in White Center or their new location on Rainier, in Columbia City.
                    Mango-Chile, Coconut, plenty to love about this place.

                    1. EbonyEyedEnigma RE: jalebiwallah Sep 18, 2009 07:16 PM

                      I generally go to Full Tilt Ice Cream in White Center, unless I am near Southcenter - If I am I go to Coldstone; which is located down the walkway from Red Robin. Both make their Ice Creams from scratch, in the store.

                      Be well,

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                        mrnelso RE: EbonyEyedEnigma Sep 18, 2009 09:40 PM

                        Full Tilt (fabulous and just nuts) is now in Columbia City, too. They use Snoqualmie Base, which is about as close to "scratch" as we need to be. They have pinball machines set to the ridiculously easy end, to keep customers in the store, I guess...
                        As business models go, this one is ambitious: Ice cream; pinball; video games; beer,
                        We do need the ice creams, though. Ginger (wow), mango chile, blue moon, walnut. Oh yes.

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                          EbonyEyedEnigma RE: mrnelso Oct 15, 2009 05:26 PM

                          Mr. Nelso,

                          I had no idea that the base was from Snoqualmie - now I know...

                          Hey, is there anyway I can talk you out of those two recipes for baked Yams and Roasted Winter Vegetables? :: She laughs ::

                          Be well,

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                            mrnelso RE: EbonyEyedEnigma Oct 15, 2009 09:54 PM

                            For Yams:
                            Bake Yams as much as you like and remove from oven.
                            Slice lengthwise, slip off skins, and drop in a big bowl.
                            Grate an inch or so of ginger per yam with a ginger grater (not a regular cheese-grater or microplane, but a ginger grater) and gather up the shredded/grated ginger, squeeze the juice into the bowl and mash it all to a consistency you like.

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                              EbonyEyedEnigma RE: mrnelso Oct 23, 2009 01:59 PM

                              Thank you for the Yam Recipe, never thought of using ginger on them. As far as your Roasted Winter Vegetables, do you cook these the same way?

                              Be well,

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                                mrnelso RE: EbonyEyedEnigma Oct 23, 2009 10:02 PM

                                Myself, I grab-up 3 or 4 different kinds of "yams." Grocery store regular, Garnet (PCC, etc), Satsuma Imo (Uwajimaya), and grocery store "Sweet potato" and bake them til they are soft with a squeeze, but not all liquified and soupy. Since this is a rough mash, and not a puree, the various colors all get to play together. I forgot to mention that the ginger-grater will leave you with a fistful of shredded fiber, which you discard after you squeeze out the juice. Both the metal and ceramic styles are scary for the knuckles, but/and they have a juice-catcher, of sorts, Grate a little nutmeg over at serving time, or maybe serve with cut limes.

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                                  paulj RE: mrnelso Oct 24, 2009 09:27 AM

                                  I think the Satsuma Imo is labeled 'Japanese sweet potato' in stores like 99Ranch. Similar in color to the usual American sweet potato, but with a more irregular surface, and a pale flesh. Cubed and boiled or steam, it is flavorful enough to eat straight, even without added salt. There is more to its flavor than just sweetness. I haven't tried it in something sweet.

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                                    mrnelso RE: paulj Oct 24, 2009 04:17 PM

                                    I met Satsuma Imo one chilly Winter night, in an alley of tiny shops in Kyoto. As we made our way along, a sweet scent became noticeable in the air, and we eventually reached its source. There was a little old guy, sitting behind a giant steel tray, with a layer of rock-salt on it, and live coals below. Atop the salt, split in half and cut-face down, were Satsuma Imo, roasting. Butter? brown sugar? fageddaboudit. So nice, so sweet, so warming against the chill...
                                    I have, indeed seen these, labeled Japanese Sweet Potato, at PCC, I think, and a few other places. They are sweeter than the other "sweet potatoes" and "yams" you commonly find. The commercial names have come about to differentiate the light-fleshed ones from the more orange ones, though they are both Ipomoea Batatas. Saatsuma Imo has a purplish skin and a nearly pure-white flesh. Roughly mashed with the orange ones, they are beautiful.

                      2. EbonyEyedEnigma RE: jalebiwallah Oct 23, 2009 01:51 PM

                        Full Tilt Ice Cream has won their category in the KING 5 “Best of Western Washington” voting, so if you have not tried the ice cream yet... Make your way to the nearest place (White Center, Columbia City, with a Ballard location in the works) and enjoy a scoop or two!~!!

                        Be well,

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