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DC Over Labor Day

Hello fellow chowhounds,

I'll be coming to the DC area over Labor Day. Staying in Rosslyn off of Fort Myer Road and would like to know whats around that area and in DC to catch a quick bite for breakfast before heading to the sightseeing.

I was in DC about five years ago and tried out Jaleo, Bistro Bis, and this little German place in a little house slight NE of the Capitol (owner was an older German lady). They were all great and I really enjoyed Jaleo (although it was a bit frantic and tight).

So my other questions besides the one in the first paragraph are these:

Is that area of Rosslyn still an okay place? I remember it catering to the business traveler it seemed?

What are some good places to eat in (I'd like to venture back to Jaleo by Ford Theatre) DC proper area as well as Rosslyn? I've seen mention of Ray's Hellburger. Also, I may finally get to Georgetown this time. I remember seeing that there was a good Ethiopian place there.. maybe it was Zeds. Anyways, I'm not looking to eat at the same places as last time. Cashion's I heard was good and so was Vidalia's. I may eat one or two nice nice dinners (not necessarily needing the full jacket and tie). I guess what I"m looking for are good places for lunch that will leave money for better experiences for dinner. Most of our (gf and I) time will be spent probably going through the Smithsonian buildings. I would love to try Ben's Chili Bowl, but I don't know about going all the way to U-Street and not sure if it would be worth going just for that.

Lastly, what are some good and safe nightspots for jazz or big band?

I may have more questions later and sorry that this is a jumble of thoughts.

Thanks :-)

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  1. Consider dining at 1789. Through mid-September, the 1789 restaurant offers its wonderful Summer pricing deal. This means three courses from most of the menu (upcharge on very few items) for $40.

    There's a new chef who has modernized the cuisine. Even with the updated options, the restaurant isn't cutting edge, but I think dining in a Federal townhouse with each room decorated in a way appropriate to the region makes for a very DC experience.

    The Manassas Room is the most casually decorated with barn planks for wall treatment and Civil War era posters and maps. The Carroll Room (aka the Fireplace Room) is the most formally decorated.

    After dinner, you could take a romantic stroll back to your hotel.


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    1. re: Indy 67

      I second 1789 for a great dining experience.
      Cashion's is great for brunch.
      I've only been to Vidalia once but was very underwhelmed considering the cost and expectations.

      1. re: joann.hill12

        Same feeling on Vidalia... For the money I would rather go to Palena or Blue Duck I think they are around the same price. Or Kinkeads for seafood or Corduroy. But a lot of people seem to like it. I felt a little ripped off.

        If you really want to go to Vidalia they have a 3 course $20 lunch special that seems like it would be a better deal.

    2. For live music, the DC Blues Festival is on the Saturday of Labor Day weekend, at Carter Barron Amphitheater. It's free, no tickets required. There's usually an after-party. I think this year it's going to be at the Silver Spring American Legion. Details at www.dcblues.org.

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      1. re: 4X4

        I think I remembered reading about this when the idea of DC for Labor Day was a bit of a whim. I'll definitely have to check it out and thank you.

      2. Since you are staying in Virginia, you might want to try Minh's or Nam Viet in Clarendon for Vietnamese.

        Cafe Assorti (Kazakh food) in Rosslyn serves breakfast. I haven't had that meal there, but I can vouch for their coffee.

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        1. re: Lori D

          I should have made mention that we will probably just be taking the train to DC and making the switch at Union Station. Does this make things a little less accessible? Probably but the metro goes to just about any destination we'd probably want to go to and then walk from there.

        2. I would also like to know the areas I should avoid for my own safety (and especially at various times). Last time I was there and started to walk to Jaleo from the White House.. it seemed that more and more vagrants were showing up. I've not ventured to the other neighborhoods like Adams Morgan and Dupont Circle. So I don't quite know whats there as far as good restaurants be they casual or fancy and so I'm eventually going to make a little map so if I'm in the area I'll know what is around.

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          1. re: burgeoningfoodie

            Pretty much all of downtown is relitively safe at this point. The city has grown leaps and bounds over the last several years so there are more people out on the streets downtown over the weekends. If you are staying in Roslyn you should try and have drinks at Domaso in the Hotel Palomar. Great views. In Georgetown Hook is quite good. And if you liked Jaleo but want to try something dfifferent you should try Oyamel or Cafe Atlantico which are owned by the safe chef and fantastic.

            1. re: anunez

              Good to know that most places are safe now.

          2. Right in Rosslyn in the strip mall that has Ray's Hellburger all the other restaurants are great too: Pho 75, Guajillo and the Bistro place.

            The only places I would avoid at this point is North Capitol Hill, H ST NE area. I go there with company but not alone. But DC has really gotten pretty nice. There are still homeless in the parks and squares, especially along K St. but nothing I would worry about.

            U St. has many of the Jazz places, but I haven't been there in a while so I don't know exactly what to recommend food-wise as there are many new places. I used to really like Coppi's, I still haven't been to Creme, but should. And St. Ex was good.

            Downtown you have tons of option if you walk up off the mall into Penn Quarter and Chinatown. And Central is right there and really good, not too expensive but you need to make a reservation as it can get pretty full and sooner might be better than later.

            I like Tacklebox for casual lunch as well, their grilled fish is always fresh and tasty. It's in Georgetown. And it isn't a far walk (after if you like cupcakes go around the corner to Georgetown Cupcake).

            DC isn't a big breakfast place... so I am struggling with breakfast in Rosslyn. I always got good chai tea from Jay's in the metro building there when studying for the bar and friends said they had decent coffee, and they have a tivoli which has good croissants.

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            1. re: ktmoomau

              Yeah the last time I was there I was fortunate to stay at a place that had a free (and decent) breakfast. Thank you for the effort though. The only thing I remember about Rosslyn as far as dining went last time is that I could walk up a hill and get to a Ruby Tuesdays.. Though I'm not looking to eat at chains as with most foodie type people. I want to get a sense of what the city has to offer food wise and/or travel to other lands by being able to eat foods like Ethiopian that I can't get here.

              1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                Just thought about something. I have never been to Leopold's Kafe in Georgetown but it isn't a far walk and then you could ride the circulator bus into town, I think they serve breakfast.

                Also if you are headed into the Capital near Union Station I love Bistro Bis for brunch I think they have breakfast too. And there are some places near the mall that serve breakfast on opentable although I have only been to a few for brunch like Poste. So you could always walk into Georgetown or metro in to eat breakfast?

                You will have to walk up-hill to go to the strip mall with all the stuff. I think eating Vietnamese and Ethiopian are good option as we do those well and there are some pretty close to Rosslyn able to be accessed by public transportation. Ray's Hell burger is a burger but is def worth a stop.

                Central is definitely worth a stop the food is really good, not necessarily unique to dc, but the chef is our chef and the food very inventive and good.

                For the dinner you are far enough out to get a reservation at one of the big boys if you wanted to spend a little more.

                I also love Rasika for Indian or Bombay Club (same owners). It is Indian but a little different from your normal Indian cuisine.Both are metro accessible.

                The best Ethiopian is at U st. You can find threads on ethiopian where people debate what is best, but I don't think Zed's is considered the cream of the crop.

                1. re: ktmoomau

                  Neither Vidalia nor Cashions is worth the money. In Adam's Morgan, Casa Oaxaca and Grille From Ipanema are both better than Cashion's, and in order to get there you'll have to jump in a taxi, so you could skip all of them and go to Ben's Chili Bowl, which is in the same general area. Try to avoid anything involving physical activity after eating at Ben's, and if it's your first time, you have to get a half smoke with chili and cheese, no questions.

                  You'll be a 10 minute walk to Georgetown over a nice bridge with great views, so you should venture over. Neyla is a great spot if you're with your gf, the food is very good and the ambiance is close to perfect for a date. I would second the hook recommendation as well. Clydes is always good, even though it's a local chain. If you go further up Wisconsin (a short cab ride), you can go to Surfside for semi-cheap mexican, and it's really good, especially if the deck is open out back.

                  As for general great restaurants in the area, you cannot go wrong with Rasika, Oyamel, Central, PS7s, and Cafe Atlantico, all in Penn Quarter. The Source, in the Newseum, is amazing, but the priciest of the bunch.

                  Have a great time!

                  1. re: thehamburglar

                    It has also been suggested that I try Pasta Mia (if I can stand the line), Teaisms, and a place called Sticky Rice. I've looked over some of the above suggestions and saw on another food thread some amazing things at Cafe Atlantico (that seemed like things you'd get at El Bulli) at least in the amuse or in between meals. Proof seemed well rounded as did Obelisk with the latter being more pricey of couse. Kinkeads seems to be a bit of an institution. I thought there was a good breakfast place in Georgetown (maybe I'm thinking a soulfood place instead). What does anyone know about Art and Soul (aside from the Pres eating there and that Art Smith is the chef)? It seems a bit over priced for what it serves. PS7 seems good and its good to know that the chef cut his teeth by working through the industry. Tabard Inn for a lunch seems nice, but may be out of the way. As far as Ethiopian the two spots that seem to jump to the top are Etete and Queen M. I've read that Good Stuff Eatery has a Toasted Marshmallow Milkshake thats to die for and that I should check out some chocolate shop called Artfully Chocolate or ACKC. Lastly, I've read and been told that if I have to eat in a museum cafe that the one at the Museum of the American Indian (Native American) is my best bet. What I hope to do in the next few days is come up with a game plan to pace myself. Yeah spontanaeity is good, but I like to have a bit of a plan.

                    1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                      Teaism- it's ok. I was never thrilled with the food there, but it was ok. The baked goods and rice pudding are good.

                      Sticky Rice- It's on H ST NE, it has creative sushi rolls and fusion food. A little alternative. I really like it but if you like traditional sushi it's not the place for you. The area is a cool area you will probably have to cab to it, I wouldn't walk, fyi. Also nearby Granville Moores has good mussels.

                      What you might be seeing at Cafe Atlantico is either Minibar (30 one bite courses, but it has 6 seats and you have to call at exactly one month ahead at 9:30 to get in) they also have a dim sum brunch on Sundays that has small plates. Minibar is very molecular gastronomy, and they use that in some of the other foods, they put their eggs in a hot water bath to poach them and they have a delightful texture. They have good Saturday brunch too.

                      PS7 also has a great bartender, I haven't eaten there yet, but will soon, except at the bar but have liked most everything I have had.

                      I have heard complaints about Mitsam at the Native American Museum so I think perhaps it has gone downhill from when it first opened, it used to be incredible.

                      1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                        Pasta Mia--good affordable Italian if you're in the area--the line can be a real pain. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way for it. I used to live in the neighborhood so it was a good neighborhood spot but nothing spectactular.
                        LOVE Proof and Obelisk...both are consistently wonderful. I think the 5-course pre-fixe at Obelisk for around $65 per person is a great deal. Proof is more of a "scene" but the food and wine is fabulous.
                        Art & Soul is also a great spot with great outdoor seating. I particularly loved the ahi tua served over fried green tomatoes and you have to get one of the hoecakes!
                        I've only been to PS7 once and was not as enamored by it as others...it's been a while so I need to give it another try.
                        Tabard Inn is very cozy and intimate...if you are in the area, I think it's definitely worth going to.
                        I've only been to Etete and highly recommend it.
                        The milkshakes at Good Stuff are INCREDIBLE!!! The Toasted Marshmallow and Milky Way are out-of-this-world.
                        I took a truffle-making class at ACKC and yes, the chocolates and drinks are great. I would also recommend Biagio on 18th street for fine chocolates too.
                        I was at Mitisam a few months ago for lunch and thought it was fantastic (although a bit pricey)...definitely the best lunch option while museum-hopping on the Mall.
                        Enjoy your visit!

              2. I should read the rules probably before asking this. If I want to post a link to another thread from a different food forum like eGullet, is that allowed? Anyways, another thing that may be an issue is dress. I mean for the most part we are going to be in whatever makes us comfortable with the weather. I don't know that we would go all the way back to Arlington/Rosslyn and to change and then come back for a dinner. That being said... for most of the places what is the dress code (I mean literally not like smart casual, but what would be comfortable to wear)? I don't envision me bring a suit... maybe khaki's and a blazer at the most.

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                1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                  Hahahha yeah that subject just came up on donrockwell too, started a huge debate. Citronelle or a restaurant on that level may be your only real hang up. For the rest khakis, polo or button up, and for the dressier places blazer would be fine (I think the servers at Obelisk wear jeans, you might want a blazer there though, at proof khakis and button up or collared shirt of some type would probably be fine you might take a blazer if you want? It seems jeans and flip flops are the big deal breakers in terms of dress (sticky rice jeans and flip flops will be norm). But most places have the dress on their website. Kinkeads is a little more traditional you might want a blazer then. Cafe Atlantico casual is probably normal.

                  1. re: ktmoomau

                    Did you mean the topic of dress came up and was heavily debated? The reason I asked about posting a link to a thread in eGullet is because there is a thread that shows the pictures from Cafe Atlantico. The man mentioned trying to get a reservation at Minibar (which seems near impossible from what I've read), but instead got a table at Atlantico (same space), but the dining seemed more inline with what I've read about Minibar. Though it would be great if I had the money to splurge like that or even a chef's table. I think my significant other would think I were nuts AND not sure she would eat everything that comes out.

                    Onward then. What do you all know about Taberna Del Alabardero? It seems nice as an alternative to Jaleo or other Spanish joints. The reason I liked Jaleo so much is because I have yet to fine a nother restaurant that displayed such a wide variety of what tapas probably should be and at the time (AND for DC it was relatively cheap). Anyways, I've always been curious about Marrakesh as well but it seems like more show than anything else. I think I went to Cafe Berlin last time I was in town. Also someone mentioned Valpiano's, Oooohs and Ahhhs and Teatro Goldoni. Thoughts? Experiences?

                    1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                      Minibar is a 31 or so course dinner for about $120 pp. Many threads about this. The Sunday brunch is either a la carte or 14 courses for $35, but is only available from 11am or so to 1:30pm. Many of the courses are similar to what you'd get a tMinibar, so the Sunday brunch is quite a deal! A la carte you will get less, but you get to choose everyhting you eat plus you will probably save a bit of money. Courses are very small, but I can get filled up by spending $30 pp. If you do the a la carte, I recommend ordering two dishes a time so you can guage for yourself how long you should continue. This will make the meal go longer, so if you'd rather be seeing the sights, you might want to skip a fancy meal in the middle of the day.

                      Taberna is a nice place, but the food can be very boring and under-seasoned. The best reason to go there is for half-price tapas and sangria at happy hour, but this makes the overpriced tapas just reasonably priced.

                      Oohs and Aahs is a favorite of mine, but is a total dive, mostly a carry out with four stools in front of a kitchen (minibar!) and a few tables upstairs. Some of the best food in DC, though, better than Minibar. Coastal Carolina Soul Food. Do a search for recs.

                      Vapiano's is a chain from Germany serving Italian food. Seems like there is a new location popping up in every neighborhood.

                      Jaleo is a favorite of mine from a chef who deserves his reputation. Simple, rustic food, do a search for recs.

                      Almost all Chowhounds hate Marrakesh. I've had some excellent food there over the years, but it's true that my last meal everything seemed cooked too far in advance, and the carrot salad was served icebox cold.

                      1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                        I haven't been but the chefs table at Teatro Goldini is supposed to be quite an experience.

                        I went to Minibar... it is always worth a call to see if they have cancellations. It may be the best meal "experience" I have ever had.

                        Taberna- they have very typical Spanish tapas, Jaleo's are a little more modern and inventive. It is the difference between what you would find in an old classic wooden tapas bar in Barcelona or Madrid and a more modern place trying new things, but still having some classics.

                        Vapiano's- forget it. It's ok, but not something I would go for if I only had a few days. Pretty mediocre.

                        Ooohs and Aahs- good soul food in huge portions. Absolutely no ambiance and very few seats. I used to get take out from here.

                        1. re: ktmoomau

                          Well if the food is good I'm not worried about the ambience at all. Especially if it seems like most people would take out. However, coming from the South, I'm not really looking for Soulfood.

                          Onward... What can be said about Market Lunch (I've read the Blue bucks are good) overall? Also, I had seen mention of Coco Sala, but I'm not sure if it knows what it wants to be or if it is even any good? Seems at the very least unique.

                          1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                            Coco Sala wants to be a very hip, international place and probably succeeds quite well. Dark, loud music, live DJ, sofa seating, but many people eating standing up and conversing at little counters built into the space. I was there late at night. The inside is too loud for me. In nice weather, a few outdoor tables are set up, nothing elaborate, and the people watching is very good. The swordfish slider and the beef slider are sensational. Salad is delicous. I didn't try the mac n' cheese. The composed chocolate dishes are nothing to write home about, but the tasting of chocolate squares is impressive. Sit outside, relax, and eat well. If you are from the South, yes, you don't have anything like it.

                            1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                              If you are from the south don't bother, and bring me some biscuits and gravy please?

                              Market lunch has great blueberry buckwheat pancakes (not many people have buckwheat pancakes around here) they also maybe have decent crabcakes. The wait can be long but it's fun. They also have a good breakfast sandwich. It's not a far walk from the capital so I take guests there a lot then walk downtown.

                              1. re: ktmoomau

                                You want those made or brought from a certain place? Which gravy red eye or sawmill? I'm not a Cracker Barrel ya know :-p . I'm just trying to figure out what places are good depending on where I'll be at any given time so that I'll have a plan. It's too bad there isn't anything great right in the Rosslyn area. I think that would do pretty well depending on the price for rent and if it is filling it is niche well. I know there is a chinese place right in the building near our hotel (I think i saw it on a Dim Sum thread) and as we mentioned previously the vietnamese restaurant (Minh I think) is nearby.

                                1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                  There are great places in Rosslyn they just tend to be causal: Ray's Hell Burger, Minh's, Pho 75 (we have a very large Vietnamese population, as well) Guajillo which I think has the best Mexican food in our area (but probably not worth it when you come from SF), I like Cafe Asia for cheap sushi and asian dishes that tend to be pretty good. But yeah Rosslyn tends to be very business oriented. Ray's the Steak up in Courthouse is great too, that actually may be something you don't have in SF- great steak that isn't too expensive- not like a steakhouse, much tastier and cheaper has a fantastic wine program, you get mashed potatoes and creamed spinach free with the steak, etc.

                                  1. re: ktmoomau

                                    I'm not from SF (if you mean San Fran). I'm from south of the Mason Dixon Line down I-95. I was also told to take a look at the following:

                                    Firefly, Sequoia, DC Coast, Sea Catch, Dish and Hook.

                                    1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                      Oh yeah, because you are bringing me biscuits and gravy (not red eye gravy) ; ) I am glad you're not a cracker barrel, theirs would never do...

                                      Sequoia- no no no, tourist trap awful food, although decent view, and it is packed to the gills with people.

                                      DC Coast has nice seafood- I think you would like this place, Hook I haven't been to since they had a dramatic change in chef's but I hear it's pretty good I like their more casual restaurant Tackle Box.

                                      I have never been to Sea Catch or Dish. For seafood you might also look at BlackSalt.

                                      1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                        I've been to Sequoia and Hook and of the two I'd reccommend Hook far and away above Sequoia.

                                        Sequoia is in a great location and has pretty great views, but the food is pretty uninspired. I'd compare it to "hotel food", something you'd get in the restaurant of a decent hotel. Not bad, and a good selection, but just a bland touch to everything.

                                        Hook, on the other hand, is pretty striking for both the freshness of ingredients and the thoughtful (somewhat limited) menu items. I had pristinely fresh oysters there, followed by grilled octopus w/ an amazing potato salad (basil pesto based instead of mayo). No views, but the restuarant itself is a little jewel box. IRRC it's pretty affordable as well for lunch- good specials.

                                      2. re: ktmoomau

                                        Minh's is actually in Clarendon, not Rosslyn.

                                        There are a few good, even great, places in Rosslyn. I would agree about Ray's Hell Burger (although I haven't braved the crowds since Obama's visit) and Pho 75, and would include Cafe Assorti and Greenberry's (for coffee).

                                        If you want Chinese food, I would recommend finding someplace other than China Garden (the place near your hotel). There's not much great Chinese food in DC, but you can do better than what is in Arlington. (The best Chinese food in the DC area can be found in Rockville. There are great places that are metro-accessible, but they would take time to get to.)

                                        Rosslyn tends to have limited options other than during business hours. At least there are options now; I remember when there were basically none. There is a lot of development going on now; once the buildings are up and occupied, there should be more restaurants (although rents are not likely to be cheap, so it could be just chains).

                                        2500 Wilson Blvd, Arlington, VA 22201

                                      3. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                        Closest to Rosslyn (but not right where all the high rises are), is Ray's Hellburger, which is phenomenal. Just get a plain burger, either corn or mac n cheese (very rich, though) on the side. If you have to wait a bit, so be it. Guajillo is next door, but do not expect anything special. The best Mexican food is served at Taqueria El Charrito Caminante. Go for the tacos de cabrito and also the chorizo is homemade and impressive. But only about four stools to sit on and not right in Rosslyn either.

                                        Wouldn't it be nice if all the best places were convenient to your hotel. Well, they're not Almost never are. Grab a cab to Eden Center and really explore the place. You'll be glad you did. Search this board for specific recs.


                                        1. re: Steve

                                          My area is loaded with tacquerias, taco trucks and one peruvian chicken place. I'm okay on the mexican and the girlfriend doesn't really dig it or spicy food.

                          2. Just a note, there is recent thread on Cafe Assorti you might want to check out, looks like it might be a good choice fro breakfast?

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                            1. re: ktmoomau

                              I just saw that was going to google it. I also saw Brooklyn Bagels. Eden Center looks like an interesting if not odd place.

                            2. So there maybe a slight change in venue. We may now be staying closer to Logan Circle and the M Street area. Are there places we should definitely check out? Places/areas to avoid?

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                              1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                That's a great place to be, because you can quickly get to anywhere in the city by cab. You can also walk to the DuPont circle and U Street areas. Consider the Tabard Inn for brunch on N St in DuPont. It's just a great space, so cozy, and it has a nice outdoor seating area. I also really like Leopolds in Georgetown for a solid breakfast, and they have very good espresso and pastries to boot. Sitting there, I feel like I'm in hip spot in Vienna. Avoid Teaism. I've always been disappointed with their food. Something about the place just irritates me.

                                Brasserie Beck is a great spot if you're a Belgian food and beer fan. I think it's walkable from where you'll be. Corduroy is also relatively close. While some will quibble with their picks, check out the restaurant section of the Washingtonian.com. Their Top 100 restaurants list (for the most part) give you a good overview of what's good in the city, and you can search by location.

                                1. re: dinersaurus

                                  Thank you for those suggestions. I'm guessing you've spent a fair amount of time between DC area and NC?

                                  1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                    So things are up in the air as rates fluctuate... chances are we will end anywhere between M St. to New Hampshire and Dupont Circle to over closer to Logan Circle. Any suggestions for places to hit either on the way out the door (for breakfast) or on the way back in for a dinner?

                                    I saw mention of the Tabard Inn and a place called The Little Fountain which may be too far away from any decent metro stop. I still think we'll dine mostly in the tourist areas (Penn Quarter, North of the White House). I know Obelisk and Equinox are not far from the area I'm mentioning and both seem to be decent with the edge ti seems going to Obelisk. Hopefully we will get to explore more than I think.

                                    1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                      In Dupont they have Luna Grill and Diner (not to be confused with Luna Diner) which I like for breakfast, good veggie omlet and decent breakfast burrito, omlets, etc. Not expensive or high end.

                                      Tabard Inn has great brunch, so does Poste (also has breakfast) and Cafe Atlantico. I like botht he dim sum and normal brunch at Cafe Atlantico they do a sous vide egg that I really like.

                              2. Okay so it looks like we may have our final destination in place. Found a hotel for $76 a night near the intersection of Vermont and L St. ? Anyone have any details about that area? Quite a bit aways from Dupont and seems closer to Lafayette Sq. I'm not just talking about food, but the condition of the metro? Do I wanna be walking there to get back after dark? Iw as surprised that a hotel (from a fairly well known chain) was that close adn that cheap.

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                                  1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                    It's a couple of blocks from Dupont. You can survive the walk--it's good excercise. Farragut West is fine at night.

                                    1. re: Jacey

                                      Okay Ihad heard the block around McPherson Sq (closest metro)and seemed unsafe. So I was curious.

                                    2. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                      i wouldn't worry about it. i work in this area, i get of after dark and walk three blocks to the metro. so much has gone up around here, don't worry, it's fine.

                                      as for the food? during the day at lunch there is a korean cart at vermont and L that is just really great. we get it ALOT. sweet and spicy bulgogi, kimbap, nice pan fried dumplings made to order. good kimchi. the rice isn't as good as the rice at the 14th and L korean cart, but the meat is better at vermont and k. DO IT!

                                      1. re: littlew1ng

                                        Thanks as soon as posted I got an email about a hotel near Union Station for $99 a night plus free parking... so I guess it is between those two... Currently we do have a reservation in place..

                                    3. Is Eastern Market back open in full swing? We finally have one definite in place... touring the Capitol on a weekday afternoon.. I've been told you can actually grab lunch inside one of the cafeterias in or under the Capitol? I'm not sure we'd do that since there are some good options around and above ground right?

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                                      1. re: burgeoningfoodie

                                        I've eaten inside the Capitol, and it's really not worth it aside from the novelty of it. It's just a cafeteria.

                                        1. re: dinersaurus

                                          And the Eastern Market is back up in the old building now.

                                          1. re: ktmoomau

                                            Dinersaurus - That is pretty much what I had figured.

                                            ktmoomau - Good to know I know it was happening soon. I think we will plan to check that out. Don't know if it would be ideal for lunch but since we will be by the capitol at some point anyways....

                                            Now if only we could deside where we are staying.

                                      2. Well one of the places I was eye balling won't be open when I'm there for whatever reason (maybe just a long vacation for the staff) and that place is Komi and so I can definitely strike that one off the list. Right now the main thing is hotels to consider.. found a great deal for Phoenix park in that kept it under triple digits and free parking.. though i still think we will just do the train the whole way.. can't see too many disadvantages.

                                        1. So I was browsing around Anthony Bourdain's show website to look up and see a place he mentioned in NY when I saw he had a spot for Washington..

                                          Was wondering what you thought about the places he visited (that hadn't been mentioned.)


                                          1. So I think I've got our first day mapped out since we will arrive late afternoon and probably do a foot tour near Constitution and 15th St. around 7pm. I'm thinking about either Equinox or DC Coast. I think we'd have about 2 hrs before the tour and looking at a map don't think I don't think it would be too far fetched to wander over to Central maybe? Any thoughts? Suggestions other than DC Coast/ Equinox? I know there is Ceiba but I'm saving the latin food for a Jose Andres restaurant (maybe Dim Sum brunch at Atlantico).