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Do insects taste like crustaceans?

Caralien Jun 12, 2009 07:05 AM

My husband and I joke that crab are giant bugs, as are shrimp, lobster, and mudbugs, and then tried to find some information about the taste of actual bugs through the following posts:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/627219
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/295197
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/269887
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/393573

Having not eaten grubs, grasshopper, ant larvae, or the like, but having had eaten most crustaceans, eels, and other crawling sea creatures, my logical question remains: what do insects taste like? Is it anything like crustacean meat?

My intent is not to disgust; I'm simply curious.

Thanks!

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  1. 1sweetpea RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 08:12 AM

    This could be a difficult question to really answer accurately. I assume that the crabs, shrimp, lobster and mudbugs were all cooked. I'm also going to assume that you're asking about the taste of cooked bugs. I have only tasted a few different bugs and in my experience, all were deep fried and seasoned with salt, soy sauce or fish sauce. All had a taste reminiscent of salty potato chips. The problem really is that most insects are quite tiny, and unless you're eating them raw or perhaps steamed, it would be tough to discern much individual flavour, beyond texture. I got the impression that their appeal, besides being a cheap and plentiful source of protein, was the crunchiness and saltiness provided by the deep frying and seasoning. Most people were eating them the way we would salty nuts or popcorn with beer. As seafood is much more precious and delicate, it isn't desirable to give it that type of treatment when cooking.

    Now, on the other hand, if you're wondering how insects taste raw, versus raw seafood, I can't comment. I have no experience with raw bugs, and scant little raw seafood, beyond what might appear on a sushi platter in a higher end restaurant. In case you're wondering, my deep-fried snacks consisted of a couple of beetles, a couple of crickets and a grasshopper or two. My SO indulged in a cockroach as well. Our comments were virtually the same for each, except that I found the grasshopper legs similar to chewing and swallowing splinters off a toothpick. Not a great sensation for me. The crickets and beetles were perfectly tasty. If I had them in a mix with seaweed and wasabi flavour cracker snacks, I'd probably eat them by the handful. BTW, I passed on the small snakes, scorpions and cockroaches. The 5 or 6 bugs I consumed were more than enough adventure for one meal.

    I have seen recipes calling for insect larvae and I have a feeling that texture might be an issue here too. I would be less inclined to try something like this. You could argue that the texture might be similar to some seafood roe/spawn dishes, but I'm not sure I'd jump at those either.

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      MrsT RE: 1sweetpea Jun 12, 2009 11:07 AM

      As somebody who has tried crickets, I can honestly say no. I actually thought they tasted like seasoned plastic. Sort of like when you bite into the tail of the shrimp. Unfortunately the legs didn't fall off. I probably would have liked them better if they didn't look like bugs.

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        Miss Needle RE: 1sweetpea Jun 12, 2009 11:55 AM

        Concur with your statement. All of the bugs I've eaten have been small and deep-fried or roasted. Haven't had a huge range of insects, but tasted them in Mexico and Thailand. So they basically took the flavor of whatever flavorings were added. Texture is indeed similar to potato chips -- not the kettle-cooked but the thinner, cheaper Wise brand burnt bits. I think the gross out factor is more in the thought of it (at least to most Americans) than the taste.

        However, I've had really small shrimps that have been dried and stir-fried and seasoned Korean-style. I remember my friend refused to eat them because he thought it looked like insects! Those shrimps did taste "shrimpy" and unlike the bugs I've eaten in the past.

      2. Sam Fujisaka RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 08:27 AM

        1sweetpea has it right. White grubs in the Philippines become adult beetles and swarm once a year or every two years depending on species. They're deep fried, crunchy, salty goodness (and the legs all fall off in the frying). No similarity to shrimp or lobster. Same thing for ants.

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          Pablo RE: Sam Fujisaka Jun 12, 2009 08:54 AM

          Sounds just like South African Mopani worms (Mashonzha)... delicious with an ice cold Castle Lager:
          http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&a...

        2. johnb RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 08:51 AM

          I have no experience in this matter, but surely the taste would vary enormously depending on the particular species, and even the life cycle of any given species.

          1. Veggo RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 10:56 AM

            I will almost certainly tonight have a nightmare about lobsters splattering on my windshield.

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              Scargod RE: Veggo Jun 13, 2009 08:44 PM

              Though the recent storm was intense, I was able to collect over two dozen lobsters that hit my car. Those that were "blendered" or hit head-on were minimal. On cooking, I just spit out the shell. A lot better than running over crickets.

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                Veggo RE: Scargod Jun 13, 2009 08:55 PM

                Those head -on lobster hits should make for a nice bisque.The "glancing blows" are usually still good for a lobster roll, and if you get a clean head strike above the thorax, thermidor is still a viable option.

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                  Scargod RE: Veggo Jun 13, 2009 09:22 PM

                  Thanks for the heads-up! I did toss those with crushed thoraxes. Still, couldn't the tail still be good for something?

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              another_adam RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 12:41 PM

              I agree with the above, that the flavor mainly comes from the seasoning that was used in cooking, and at least the bugs I've eaten (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.) have more a sensation of crunchiness from the exoskeletons than chewing flesh like a shrimp or whatnot. I find eating roasted grasshoppers (chapulines) to be a lot like eating tasty (and somehow slightly juicy) succulent pumpkin seeds-- really addictive, and great with beer :) (Sadly, we've laid off of them since worries about lead contamination arose, though...)

              The only other insect I've eaten with any regularity is silkworm pupas, prepared in the Korean style (beondegi). Those are softer and more, um, toothsome, though I still wouldn't really liken them to shrimp. They are a bit more challenging, though, due to the size-- especially if you eat them from the can, rather than getting them all nice and toasty from a street vendor.

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                jumpingmonk RE: another_adam Jun 12, 2009 05:45 PM

                From what I understand, roasted Tarantula is supposed to taste a little like shrimp, (plus you can use the fangs as toothpicks). Some grashoppers are supposed to taste a bit like lobsers/crayfish if you boil them (they also turn the same shade of red) Bee larvae are supposed to taste a lot like honey (natch). beyond that, not much info

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                  Caralien RE: jumpingmonk Jun 12, 2009 06:44 PM

                  That's interesting about the grasshoppers--I really ought to try those some day, fried or boiled. Maybe even tarantula. My husband recalled that the insects he's tried tasted rather nutty.

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                    kattyeyes RE: Caralien Jun 12, 2009 08:04 PM

                    Looks like you can find them in NYC (the chapulines):
                    http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2008/0...

                    Can't help you with what they taste like. When we went to Oaxaca, everyone ate them but me.

                    Edit: I'm fine with huitlacoche, but I'll pass on the grass(hoppers). Everyone's gotta draw a line somewhere.

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                      JungMann RE: Caralien Jun 15, 2009 07:39 AM

                      I agree that insects taste nuttier rather than like potato chips, though this might be a subjective perception thing. I have heard, however, Andrew Zimmern eat certain insects and compare them to the taste of crustaceans, though I can't remember what creepy crawlie he was referring to at the time.

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                      Sam Fujisaka RE: jumpingmonk Jun 12, 2009 06:54 PM

                      I've never encountered boiled grasshoppers.

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                        Tsar_Pushka RE: jumpingmonk Jun 13, 2009 05:28 PM

                        I have had fried tarantulas in Cambodia. They don't taste like shrimp. They taste somewhat earthy and dusty, and vaguely sweet (not sure if that was natural sweetness or added sugar). I think the appeal is more about the texture, which ranges from crispy legs to chewy body. These were little suckers, body length probably about 2 inches so no toothpick potential there with the fangs : )

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                          jumpingmonk RE: Tsar_Pushka Jun 13, 2009 07:39 PM

                          The source I read was referring to Amazonian tartatulas (and probably bird eating spiders) maybe they taste different from south east asian ones. The tribe who was cooking it was roasting it too, not frying it, maybe that also makes a difference.

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                            Tsar_Pushka RE: jumpingmonk Jun 19, 2009 04:31 PM

                            Oh dear ... I'd have trouble getting stuck into one that big. You'd almost have to carve it at the table ...

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                            cemott3rd RE: Tsar_Pushka Jun 19, 2009 12:49 AM

                            I have had fried tarantulas in Cambodia too several times over the years at the central market and they always tasted alot like chewy crab to me.

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                            cemott3rd RE: jumpingmonk Jun 19, 2009 12:51 AM

                            I had bees in San Cristobal de Las Casa, Chiapas, Mex. and they tasted like unsweet honey...if you can imagine that.

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                              houseofchow RE: jumpingmonk Jul 1, 2012 09:28 AM

                              "roasted Tarantula is supposed to taste a little like shrimp, (plus you can use the fangs as toothpicks)"

                              My balls just shrank inwards.

                          4. Paulustrious RE: Caralien Jun 13, 2009 09:12 AM

                            I've never been to Oz but friends of mine from there used to recommend witchetty grubs.

                            http://www.mjhall.org/bushtucker/page...

                            The descriptions of various types of bush tucker is interesting. I'd like to try the grubs. My mates said they were reminiscent of prawn. They also said I should try honey ants.

                            1. Caralien RE: Caralien Jun 13, 2009 09:30 AM

                              Thus far:
                              Eggs, prawns, lobster, crayfish, nuts, fried chips (crisps), pumpkin seeds, honey, and sun dried tomatoes.
                              from DH:
                              1. Mealworm grubs taste nutty when baked in cookies
                              2. Cicadas sauteed in butter taste like crunchy butter

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                                moh RE: Caralien Jun 13, 2009 10:11 AM

                                My experience is similar to 1sweetpea.

                                There is no question that crustaceans resemble big bugs. But I think we need to make a distinction between the outer shell and the flesh.

                                My experience with insects with exoskeletons (such as grasshoppers) is that the exoskeleton has a texture very similar to the outer shell of shrimps and soft shell crab. I love eating deep fried shrimp tails, when they are all crispy and salty and tasty. I love the textural crunch, and I get the same textural crunch when I have eaten stir-fried or fried grasshoppers. These shells pick up the flavour of whatever seasoning is used. There is a chip-like quality to these things.

                                But the flesh of crustaceans is totally different, and I think insects do not have similar flavoured flesh. First of all, they lack that "flavour of the sea" that crustaceans have. Also, I don't think most insects have a hunk of flesh/muscle that could be compared to say a lobster tail or to the meat of the shrimp. Now I will admit I haven't had the opportunity to try giant tarantulas, and it is possible they might have chunks of meat that might be analogous to the lobster tail and claw. But certainly, the flesh of mealy worms, ants, grasshoppers, silk worm larvae and caterpillars bear little to no resemblance to the flesh of crustaceans. If they did, I would be eating a lot more of them.

                                1. alanbarnes RE: Caralien Jun 15, 2009 08:25 AM

                                  My bug-eating experiences are pretty limited and consistent with those described above. But if you want to compare apples to apples, wouldn't you need to eat the whole, unshelled crustacean in a bite or two? Or maybe coax the tail meat out of a grasshopper with an itty bitty fork.

                                  My dad had a friend who accidentally made first contact with an Amazonian tribe in the '60s and lived with them for a few years. Apparently they favor a grub that, when sucked out of its hull (husk? skin?) has the flavor and texture of slightly undercooked bacon...

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                                    cemott3rd RE: Caralien Jun 19, 2009 12:56 AM

                                    I've eatten insects around the world and outside of fried Cambodian turantulas tasting a bit like crab, I have to agree with the rest. One exception, Ants were very meaty and naturally spicy but nothing like seafood.

                                    1. pdxgastro RE: Caralien Jul 2, 2012 12:09 AM

                                      And let's not forget, mopani worms (not insects, I know) taste like barbecued chicken. I would try one.

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                                        jumpingmonk RE: pdxgastro Jul 2, 2012 04:32 AM

                                        Mopani Worns are insects; they're caterpillars (they grow into a kind of moth)

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