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danna Jun 11, 2009 11:44 AM

I'm just beginning my research for these meals to be eaten on July 26th, but since that's the final day of the Tour in Paris, i want to make dinner reservations soon.

Lunch - needs to be quick and casual (but still delicious) and near the Champs. We will just have arrived at Gare de Lyon from Lyon, and plan to stay somewhere near the Champs d'Elysee. I'd like to walk to a non-touristy lunch before watching the race finish.

Dinner - I'd like it to be casual enough where a gentleman in no jacket won't feel out of place. I'd like to spend less than $200 before wine. Since I will have been in Lyon earlier in the week, I'd like lighter-weight food , great seafood always makes me happy.

Oh, and any great spots to pick up breakfast or food to take on the plane the following Monday morning (early...my flight is at noon) would also be appreciated.

thanks so much!

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  1. souphie Jun 12, 2009 04:38 AM

    There's no non-touristy place by the Champs Elysées, especially open on a sunday. I don't think you have a better option for your lunch than one of the big name brasseries on the Champs-Elysées or nearby -- l'Alsace à Paris, L'Entrecôte for instance. Good seafood on a sunday is also a challenge but at least it has a couple of solutions, especially heading to the left bank: les Fables de la Fontaine, l'Uitr, and a big good brasserie like La Rotonde or Garnier. Also Christophe, one of the best bistronomiques, is open on sundays. It's by the Panthéon.

    For food to take on the plane, walk to BE on bd de Courcelles. Beware that most food shops and restaurants are closed on mondays too.

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    1. re: souphie
      danna Jun 12, 2009 09:07 AM

      wow...I didn't know it was going to be quite such a tall order!

      Sunday dinner need not be close to the Champs, and doesn't HAVE to be seafood...just great food, and possibly a bit lighter than the bouchons are likely to serve me in Lyon (i'm going to post a thread for help in Lyon shortly).

      And as for lunch, OK, there can be tourists, as long as there is good food ;-)

      Does BE stand for something?

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        f2dat06 Jun 12, 2009 01:59 PM

        BE is an Alain Ducasse place, stands for Boulangepicier.

        http://www.alain-ducasse.com/public/c...

        1. re: f2dat06
          danna Jun 14, 2009 06:10 AM

          sounds good...but that website says ferme le dimanche...am I looking at the wrong thing?

          1. re: danna
            souphie Jun 14, 2009 12:08 PM

            It's open on monday morning.

            1. re: souphie
              danna Jun 15, 2009 05:20 AM

              yes, Monday IS when i need to-go...after I posted I realized my own idiocy. Thanks again!

        2. re: danna
          souphie Jun 13, 2009 02:09 AM

          BoulangEpicerie -- it's the bakery of Ducasse, the only good thing he ever did, if you ask me

        3. re: souphie
          danna Jul 29, 2009 02:01 PM

          Souphie, you're my hero! We LOVED Fable de la Fontaine. Gorgeous courtyard, delicious food, perfect service and a waiter who translated the menu for us without being asked. I liked it better than the 2 star Nicholas LeBec in Lyon, but that may not be fair because I was VERY tired when we got to Lyon from an 8 hour plane ride that turned into 16 + a 2 hour train trip.

          We were too time crunched to get to BE, but we did find both Fauchon and Lauderee opened Monday morning and stocked up. It was my first L. macaroon and I wish I had bought a suitcase full rather than just 4. The flavor that seemed to be a burnt orange caramel was killer.

          One question: at FdF, the wine list offered 12,25,50 cl and full bottles. I ordered 50 cl and the waiter repeated it back. When they brought an already opened, but full, bottle to the table rather than the expected carafe, I assumed that the waiter would simply pour from that bottle until he reached apprx. 50 cl. He did stop pouring around that point, although we were not drinking it fast so we were finished by about that level.

          As we were leaving, he asked if I wanted a cork to take the bottle home. This confused me, but I thought he was just being overly pleasant. I declined. (can't take it on the plane, didn't want to get hammered in the hotel room) It was not until after my husband had paid that I noticed we were charged for the full bottle. I didn't say anything. I'm sure the waiter just forgot, but I'm wondering...how would they have handled it if they had remembered I ordered less than a full bottle? WOULD it have been in a carafe? Would they have brought the bottle to the table for me to see the lable and then decanted it? At what point should I have realized there was a problem? In the US, you see only 750ml and 375ml bottles, and the occaisonal "quartino". Thanks for the advice!

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          Oakglen Jun 12, 2009 07:08 AM

          Goumard (fish) and Chez Flottes should work, both have decent web sites as well.

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            anneinparis16 Jun 12, 2009 10:06 AM

            For dinner, the big traditional brasseries near the main railway stations are open seven days a week - just take a taxi! Terminus Nord is a big glitzy traditional art deco brasserie and it and other brasseries near the railway stations serving Normandie and Brittany (where the northern seafood ports are) still have good seafood - but be careful with raw fruit de mer in hot July Paris weather.

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            1. re: anneinparis16
              menton1 Jun 12, 2009 11:16 AM

              Non-touristy and staying near the Champs do not go together! For a more local experience, next time you might stay in the Marais (4th) or even better in the second ring like the 11th or the 16th.

              Here's a good David Lebovitz list of Sunday openings:

              http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archives...

              1. re: menton1
                danna Jun 12, 2009 12:11 PM

                thanks! I love DL. Yeah, I know, but proximity to Le Tour trumps everything this trip.

                In my life I've never made a decision this fast, but I already reserved Fable de Fontaine as souphie suggested for Sunday night. The website looked like EXACTLY what I wanted. I just hope I really have the reservation. Once I told the gentleman I didn't have a hotel reservation yet(thus no Paris phone #), he told me to call the morning of and seemed quite ready to get of the phone. I suppose I need to pick a hotel and get back to him to confirm and provide a number.

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                  fanoffrance Jun 18, 2009 05:09 AM

                  I had dinner at Fables de la Fontaine a couple of months ago and enjoyed it a lot. Busy but not frenetic atmosphere, excellent food, good service. I'll definitely be back. Just be warned that it's a bit packed so you sometimes have to lean forward and speak rather forcefully to converse with your tablemate! I'm curious about the phone number problem--don't you have a cell phone that will work in Europe?

                  1. re: fanoffrance
                    danna Jun 18, 2009 02:52 PM

                    no, i don't, and I'm a bit concerned about that. (most Verizon phones don't use the network/whatever that is used in Europe) I'm not sure if I can get some sort of pre-paid world phone from Verizon, or what I might try.

                    Glad to hear a 2nd on my choice. The food pics on the website looked great. And as for table conversation, well it's out 20th anniversary, so...you know...we don't have anything left to say to each other anyway ;-)

                    1. re: danna
                      PhilD Jun 18, 2009 11:40 PM

                      The US selected a different GSM standard to the rest of the world. The US standard was 850 or 1900 Mhz whilst the ROW was 900 and 1800. Most European phones are tri or quad bands and so work in the US and Europe. A lot of US phones are not and will only work in the US, if you want a phone to work worldwide you can easily get them, but you can also guarantee your carrier will charge a premium. I understand tri and quad bands are getting more common in the US but they are far from the norm.

                      My phone is "unlocked" so not confined to a single carrier, thus I buy a pay as you go SIM card when I travel to a new country and use that as my local contact number. Cheaper to make calls for reservations and you have a local mobile number for restaurants to contact you on.

                      1. re: PhilD
                        menton1 Jun 22, 2009 02:48 PM

                        Most TMobile US phones have the World GSM standard and work in France and most other countries. Sure, it's expensive to use it but worthwhile because everyone from home can call you on your regular phone #. TMobile also emails me the unlock code so that I can get a local # also for the restaurants to contact me. I've even gone online with my TMO Blackberry and booked reservations on toptable.com

                        1. re: menton1
                          souphie Jun 23, 2009 03:57 AM

                          A prepaid phone can be had for less than 50eur and in my experience, it is the smart way to go. Indeed it does not let you use your usual number but it also does not cost an arm and a leg everytime you receive a phone call.

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              therealdoctorlew Jun 17, 2009 06:35 PM

              Ther iis nice seafood 7 days a week at La Cagouille,
              http://la-cagouille.fr/index-gb.htm
              although it is a bit off the beaten track.

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              1. re: therealdoctorlew
                souphie Jun 18, 2009 01:28 AM

                l'Uitr is the simpler restaurant of La Cagouille, same ingredients.

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