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Wynn Restaurant suggestions?

boogiebaby Jun 10, 2009 04:50 PM

My hubby and I are finally doing a much-needed weekend getaway to Las Vegas at the end of the month. We will be staying at the Wynn. We arrive on a Friday night, so we are going to check out the Wynn buffet that night since we don't know what time we'll be arriving (driving in from LA).

For Saturday night, we'd like to do a nice dinner. We were thinking about DB - Daniel Bouloud -- yay or nay? We have some great steakhouses here so SW Steakhouse is out, and my husband isn't too fond of Italian food unless it's more than your typical pasta type place. Does Alex only offer the prix fix menu as shown online?

Any suggestions for some good lunches on Saturday and Sunday? Walking distance preferably and we don't plan on driving around unless we must.

Thanks!

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  1. SDGourmand RE: boogiebaby Jun 10, 2009 09:02 PM

    San Marco in the venetian, Mesa and noodle 9 in Caesars are my favorite lunch spots and all pretty close to the Wynn.. Venetian more so than Caesars. Alex is definitely my top choice for fine dining in all of Wynn and Encore restaurants. Not sure about the menu though it's been awhile since I've dined there.

    1. Beach Chick RE: boogiebaby Jun 10, 2009 09:12 PM

      We always stay at the Wynn and I think the secret spot is the Country Club restaurant..
      Alex is outstanding, we like Daniel Boulud's for the prix fix and the Jewish deli sandwiches ..the name escapes me..something like zazoo's crackers.
      Okada has great sushi..
      Have not been to Encore but hear great things about Switch, Sinatra and Wazuzu..

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        QAW RE: boogiebaby Jun 10, 2009 09:20 PM

        Here is a good way to approach your trip - consider Wynn/Encore as being the same hotel (they are attached), and with only a pedestrian bridge in between, the Venetian/Palazzo as being right across the street. That opens your options in a major way, particularly for lunch (the Venetian/Palazzo combo having many more mid-day options than Wynn/Encore). And one of the best ways to determine a lunch spot is to take a stroll and peruse the menus, looking for whatever specials best touch your taste buds. On Sunday you do run into the "brunch" category, and if you have the appetite and a desire to splurge, Zefferino (Venetian) is particularly worth a look. Also note that you can go a la carte at Alex, where you can put together some special combinations.

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          dgasser RE: boogiebaby Jun 12, 2009 05:24 PM

          You might consider Stratta instead of the buffet when you hit town -- they're open late and do very approachable casual Italian, but with Alex Stratta's attention to detail.

          We had a great lunch at Table 10 at Palazzo last time we were over there, and love the little noodle bar off the casino in Venetian. Bouchon brunch is another highly-rated option. (As others have mentioned, the lunch options are much better across the street than at the Wynn properties.)

          1. ulterior epicure RE: boogiebaby Jun 17, 2009 09:52 PM

            I'm curious about Vegas dining as well; so I'll just piggy back on this ride.

            Three or four nights in Vegas (over a weekend). So far on my list are The Mansion and Alex. I'm open to other suggestions.

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              climberdoc RE: ulterior epicure Jun 17, 2009 10:02 PM

              Since you are obviously going "high-end", it seems natural to add Bar/Restaurant Charlie. The 14-course tasting menu is one of the best Vegas has to offer.

              Bouchon for breakfast/brunch is not to be missed. Dinner is also quite good, but you are already doing two French dinners.

              I'll throw in Mesa Grill. It's bustling, hip and has great southwestern food a la Bobby Flay.

              Sounds like an amazing trip epicure! Be sure to report back.

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                ulterior epicure RE: climberdoc Jun 18, 2009 06:08 AM

                climberdoc: Thanks for your suggestions.

                Is it considered a "bad rap" to always be associated with fine dining? *TEASE* Seriously, I'm (always) open to high and "low"-end dining options.

                1. Yes, someone else had recommended Bar Charlie. But I see that it's mainly a take on kaiseki, which makes me highly skeptical. Having been burned by one too many "nouveau" kaiseki/sushi-yas, I'm really not interested in being disappointed by another - epecially at $250 a pop. Any advice? Insight? What makes it (in your opinion) "One of the best Vegas has to offer?"

                2. Would it matter that I've been to a Bouchon before? I will be there over a Sunday and I've heard that the Bellagio buffet is quite a fetching performance.

                3. Would I rather go to the original Mesa Grillin New York? Probably not, since I find far too many other places I'd rather go to (be it first time or repeat). And I think the same is true in Las Vegas.

                What's happening at the Picasso these days? Also, for truly great sushi, a friend of mine told me of some place off the strip. Raku/Roku? Is that the place that the original poster above was referring to (if so, I'm curious what his/her disappointment with the restaurant was).

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                  Dave Feldman RE: ulterior epicure Jun 18, 2009 11:44 PM

                  Just my opinion, of course, but I think it would matter if you've eaten at a Bouchon before. I don't like the breakfast as much as most people here, but I'd rather go to Bouchon than the Bellagio buffet. But if you want to experience an abundant LV buffet, the Bellagio is a good choice.

                  The Mesa Grill in LV is comparable in quality to the NY counterpart, and feels less tired, to boot. But for a short vacation, I don't think the food quality is high enough to warrant a special trip.

                  I haven't had a chance to dine at Bar Charlie yet, but I don't think you'll find any high-end place with such universal praise as BC among those who have.

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                    ulterior epicure RE: Dave Feldman Jun 19, 2009 06:11 AM

                    To be honest, I'm not really interested in either Bouchon nor "an abundant LV bufffet."

                    I hear Mesa Grill has a $29 prix fixe lunch that is quite fetching. Lots of prix fixes being offered here and there.

                    re: Bar Charlie: Great. I will seriously consider it. It seems to get universally praised.

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                      Dave Feldman RE: ulterior epicure Jun 22, 2009 09:08 PM

                      Then what was #2 above in response to climberdoc?

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                        ulterior epicure RE: Dave Feldman Jun 23, 2009 10:02 AM

                        Yeah, I've decided the buffet route isn't for me - especially if I plan to do a full-blown dinner on Sunday night.

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                          Dave Feldman RE: ulterior epicure Jun 23, 2009 04:13 PM

                          I didn't mean to be snippy -- reading back, it sounds so. Unless you are a buffet pro and aficionado, i think it's usually a mistake to hit a buffet when you are planning another big meal the same day. I know some people who eat at buffets because it's possible to eat healthily, and it is, but I don't have that discipline and am always disappointed with the food quality, anyway.

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                            ulterior epicure RE: Dave Feldman Jun 23, 2009 06:41 PM

                            Exactly. Thus, the nix. I'd much rather have lunch at, say, Lotus of Siam, if they're open for lunch on Sunday.

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                              Dave Feldman RE: ulterior epicure Jun 23, 2009 08:00 PM

                              Alas, LOS doesn't serve lunch on Saturday or Sunday. Otherwise, lunch and dinner every night.

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                    QAW RE: ulterior epicure Jun 20, 2009 05:37 PM

                    The best way to describe the Bar Charlie experience is that there are really three keys - the sourcing of the Trotter organization, which is exemplary, and the individual talents of Hiroo Nagahara and Vanessa Garcia in making those ingredients dance. Watching Hiroo work, and being able to discuss the dishes as the evening unfolds, is a big part of the attraction - he was actually a physics major in college, and brings that unique combination of being an artist and scientist, having the kind of mind that can bring a lot of different textures and tastes together. It will be a true delight to watch his career unfold. Garcia handles the desserts, and was nominated for a James Beard award this spring, quite a tribute for someone that is only 25 years old. In these tough economic times, we can only hope that these two continue to get the opportunity to shine.

                    Also note that sushi is not the forte of Raku - consider it a sophisticated robatayaki, and one of the more interesting experience that can be had in Las Vegas.

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                      ulterior epicure RE: QAW Jun 21, 2009 07:23 AM

                      @QAW: Thanks for that insight. Do you know whether Naghara is in the kitchen on Sundays and Mondays?

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                        QAW RE: ulterior epicure Jun 21, 2009 07:44 AM

                        Fortunately, I will be there this evening to have another adventure. If you have your dates set I can ask about the upcoming schedule (since things will be particularly slow in Las Vegas this summer, I would assume that he may have a few off days along the way).

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                  Beach Chick RE: ulterior epicure Jun 17, 2009 10:12 PM

                  Lotus of Siam off the strip rocks for Thai..
                  Bouchon is a must for breakfast at the Venetian..
                  Alize at the Palms gets a lot of love too.
                  Have a great time!

                  www.saipinchutima.com

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                    ulterior epicure RE: Beach Chick Jun 18, 2009 06:10 AM

                    Beach Chick: I'm not usually hot on Thai cuisine, but Lotus of Siam gets far too many recommendations for me to ignore.

                    Alize at the Palms: I should know better than to judge a restaurant by its website; I checked it out and it looks very top-of-the-hotel-overpriced-paying-for-the-view type of place. But, you are not the first to recommend it. I will do a bit more due dili on this one.

                    What's up with DJT these days? Is it anything exciting?

                3. lipoff RE: boogiebaby Jun 18, 2009 11:53 PM

                  Alex is quite incredible, it definitely was the site of one of my most favourite meals in Las Vegas. My other favourites have been at Joël Robuchon at the Mansion, Lotus of Siam and Dong Ting Spring. Joël Robuchon was even more creative, but Alex was flawless. I hope to return to both, but I'm more eager to return to Alex first.

                  Elsewhere in the Wynn I've dined at Okada which was very fine, but better for the robata than for sushi, Red 8, which had mediocre green onion pancake but quite good oxtail soup, and Wing Lei, which is a beautiful room and had some standout dishes and some great disappointments, but often felt more like French food with Chinese ingredients than it did truly Chinese food (which may be fine, but one should know what you're getting into). Wing Lei is probably the most unique restaurant at the Wynn.

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                    ulterior epicure RE: lipoff Jun 19, 2009 06:10 AM

                    Well, now THAT is exactly the type of insight I was looking for. Thanks, lipoff.

                    Have you been to Picasso? It seems to be in the shadows more than its status suggests it would be.

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                      ciaogal RE: ulterior epicure Jun 19, 2009 07:47 AM

                      If you are still in Vegas on Sunday evening. Don't miss the Sunday Supper @ Charlie Palmer Steak @ the Four Seasons.
                      It's elegant and relaxing. Service was knowledgeable and impeccable.

                      Here is a copy of this weeks menu:

                      http://www.charliepalmer.com/Properti...

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                        lipoff RE: ulterior epicure Jun 23, 2009 12:44 PM

                        No I have not been to Picasso, although I do plan to visit it next year. (I attend a conference in Las Vegas annually, and so try to add a few new places each year, as well as revisiting some old favourites). Burger Bar and Yunnan Garden are also at the top of my list to try next time.

                        You'll do very well in the Wynn, but if you can branch out beyond the Wynn, let me offer a few suggestions:

                        If you can branch out far beyond the Strip (i.e. will have a car), Rosemary's is a wonderful restaurant. Word has gotten out about it in the couple years, so a reservation is essential, but the food is creative New American and as good as ever.

                        A similar restaurant is Todd's Unique Dining.

                        Lotus of Siam is still a true destination for real Thai cuisine. It is off the strip, but not too far --- a taxi cab isn't that expensive. I don't really recommend this, but I even walked there once from the Sahara.

                        Dong Ting Spring, which I mentioned before, is the only real, serious Hunan restaurant that I've been to in the United States.

                        I've had an excellent Filipino lunch and pastries at Goldilocks, and a quite authentic Chicago Hot Dog at a small off-strip hot-dog place called "Chicago Hot Dogs".

                        The Joel Robuchon restaurants in the MGM were both really outstanding in every sense of the word.

                        Elsewhere on the strip, I've been generally somewhat disappointed. I had a mediocre brunch at Bouchon, although good friends found it excellent for dinner. I was disappointed at the B&B Restaurant --- Babbo this ain't. On the other hand, I had one terrific dish there (Beef Cheek Ravioli) along with two mediocre ones (Gnocchi with Braised Oxtail and Goat Cheese Tortelloni with Dried Orange and Wild Fennel Pollen) but I am still intrigued by the menu and experienced truly professional service. Pamplemousse is way past its prime although it's still a fun experience. I had expensive but thoroughly mediocre chocolate at the Jean Philippe Patisserie. It is worth gawking at the chocolate fountain, however.

                        I haven't visited some of the "copied" restaurants like Craftsteak, Nobu or Fleur de Lys, because I've been to the originals. I don't know if they are as good or not --- but I figure if I'm in a new place, I might want to try new restaurants. And yes, I made an exception for L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon.

                        That's one of the reasons I actually have really liked the restaurants at the Wynn. Unlike most of the major casinos, the Wynn restaurants are unique, and the actual chef is actually there, actually cooking, most of the time. Alex, in particular, blew me away. It wasn't quite as over-the-top as the Joel Robuchon but had essentially the same impact.

                    2. CarrieWas218 RE: boogiebaby Jun 23, 2009 12:41 PM

                      Debating where to dine for dinner, Daniel Boulud's DBistro is mere steps from the opulent water show of the Parasol Bar, but despite the massive array of empty tables, I was told there was an hour+ wait. Getting hungry, five of us opted to squeeze into the lounge area, which is not quite as comfortable for where (we were told) at least the whole menu was available.

                      In our classic sharing mode, for the table I ordered a 2004 Outpost Zinfandel which was well-loved by all. Also for the table was the *small* version of the plates du mare, an exceptional offering of chilled fish. On the platter was 4" prawns, three types of crudo and tartare, a half lobster, mussles, oysters, and clams. The quality of the fish was exceptional and ample. I also ordered the terrine of foie which was easily one of the best offerings of foie I have tasted in a decade. Served alongside was an aspic of elderflower and a crème with an inperceptable flavor. We asked about it because it was so light and enticing and the waiter insisted it was horseradish, which was obviously wrong. Regardless, the foie itself was perfectly prepared with a firm, creamy texture and served with delightfully thin, toasted brioche.

                      Also on the table was a glorious charcuterie plate, the best burger I have ever tasted, a rich duck breast, and a side of creamed spinach. I would go back for the burger in a heart-beat, despite what I think was a $32 price tag. We finished up the evening with a cheese plate but because of the volume in the lounge, we didn't really understand the cheese explanations which were offered. They were served with a few glasses of Tokaji and I was very surprised that in all, the entire meal with tip came to a mere $100 a person. Quite a bargain, considering the quality and bounty of the food offered.

                      Pics on blog.

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