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What's with the proliferation of fake french fries.

sbp Jun 9, 2009 09:17 AM

Was in unfamiliar territory with the family the other day, so we stopped at a Southwestern Grill -- just your typical non-chain but wannabe Chilis/Fridays. I played it safe with a burger and fries. The fries were those extruded things covered in that sprayed on starch powder that keeps them crispy forever.

I don't mind french fries that are previously frozen -- you don't get fresh cut at too many places. And as long as they are actual sticks of potato, they usually aren't bad.

But so many places now have these fake fries -- either fake "crunchy spray" or some ridiculous seasoning or a combination of the two. Yes, they are crispy -- and totally lacking in any flavor other than the seasoning.

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    Maximilien RE: sbp Jun 9, 2009 09:22 AM

    Cost cutting and customers taste cutting.

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      sbp RE: Maximilien Jun 9, 2009 12:45 PM

      Yeah, but you would think a simple frozen slice of potato is cheaper to make than an extruded, sprayed and frozen squeeze of potato like substance.

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        Alice Letseat RE: sbp Jun 9, 2009 12:54 PM

        Not if you figure in staff time.

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          Crispy skin RE: Alice Letseat Jun 9, 2009 02:21 PM

          Would your staff hand slice?

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            sbp RE: Alice Letseat Jun 9, 2009 07:12 PM

            What staff time? Not talking about fresh cut fries -- just frozen french fries. Garden variety frozen fries -- a la McDonalds, Wendys (not Burger King, which went the sprayed on starch route) may not be great, but they can be very good. And out of the freezer, I don't see how they take any more time and expense than the extruded frozen fries.

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            ScubaSteve RE: sbp Aug 25, 2010 04:05 AM

            i think these 'fries' are being made from potatoes that are not the correct size or shape for making a proper fry. or, they could be made with ground and processed 'trimmings' that otherwise would of been tossed or used for another less profitable potato product.

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              coll RE: ScubaSteve Aug 25, 2010 04:40 AM

              I would say that ground or processed trimmings could be made into potato pancakes or croquettes, which are just as profitable, but can't wrap my mind around how you would make a french fry out of it?

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                ScubaSteve RE: coll Aug 25, 2010 05:38 AM

                remember the PlayDoh Fun Factory?

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                  coll RE: ScubaSteve Aug 25, 2010 06:18 AM

                  Yeah that was Play Doh. I've seen onion rings extruded, I've seen dog food extruded (yeah I get around) but never french fries. Since they only cost about 2 or 3 cents an ounce, and you put maybe 3 oz average on a platter, why would you need to make it any cheaper? The potatoes ends that are left over go into the cheap fries that are all different sizes, then if you care about that kind of thing, you can pay 5 cents an ounce and get all center cuts, all cut the same size.

                  OK that's enough trade secrets for now ;-) I like there to be a little mystery about these things, myself.

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                mpjmph RE: ScubaSteve Aug 25, 2010 05:54 AM

                Trimmings and odd sized potatoes at french fry factories usually become tater tots.

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                  ScubaSteve RE: mpjmph Aug 25, 2010 06:02 AM

                  yahbut, if they can sell them more as 'fries' then why not?

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                    coll RE: ScubaSteve Aug 25, 2010 06:06 AM

                    Because I don't think you could form it into a fry. I've never seen a commercial french fry that wasn't a solid piece of potato. Maybe some restaurant could figure something out, but I doubt it. They'd probably just throw it in some soup or stew.

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            Doctormhl1 RE: sbp Jun 9, 2009 02:30 PM

            These extruded things are to french fries as Pringles is to potato chips! There must be at least a dozen different "flavors" of Pringles on the market today. Each new flavor tastes less like a real potato chip than the previous one.
            It's just good ol' American ingenuity and marketing.
            No one ever went broke by under estimating the gullibility of the public.

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              Miss Needle RE: Doctormhl1 Jun 9, 2009 02:34 PM

              That's a good analogy! I actually like Pringles (or Munchos) when I'm in the mood for them. Might not be real potato chips, but sometimes a real potato chip won't do. And I also like these fake french fries the OP was talking about. Must be really gullible.

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                pinkprimp RE: Miss Needle Jun 9, 2009 02:37 PM

                I second the movement, Miss Needle. I like Pringles and coated french fries too (guilty pleasure at Costco).

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                  1red111 RE: Miss Needle Aug 24, 2010 09:02 PM

                  Fortunately, legal action prevents Pringles from referring to their product as potato chips. The same should be done for this wretched imitation french fry. Like Pringles, people who enjoy processed foods will then be able to gleefully home in those menu items, while the rest of us will be able to once again order fries and actually get them

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                Cinnamon RE: sbp Jun 9, 2009 08:25 PM

                I don't know, but I say if you ever see an option for sweet potato fries, go with those. Haven't seen them mass-produced into taste oblivion yet.

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                  1red111 RE: Cinnamon Aug 24, 2010 09:03 PM

                  I was just thinking the same thing today.

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                    coll RE: 1red111 Aug 25, 2010 02:51 AM

                    Frozen sweet potato fries cost twice as much as regular potato, so I'm sure someone is working on a cheaper version. If the restaurant is not making their own, then of the two main sweet potato brands, one is coated and one not, and the coated ones are much superior; the uncoated fry up soggy and mushy. So don't know how far they can go with R&D.

                    By the way, I've never heard of extruded fries, they always start out solid as far as I know. (Onion rings are another story) The Idaho versions are mushier than Maine or Canada, but still whole potato. Some people don't like the softness though, it's fluffy like mashed potato although it starts out solid. While many have an "invisible" coating (for example McDonalds), there IS a "pub batter" fry that has a thicker coating that you would actually notice, but it is a value added item and costs more than plain. There are so many frozen fries out there, and every restaurant wants theirs to be different than everyone else in town, that's the reason so much discrepancy. Hope that's not too much info.

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                      ospreycove RE: coll Aug 25, 2010 06:00 AM

                      Think of it this way .....Extruded "Fake Fries" are to a potato as Hot Dogs are to a pig. There is a lot of room for scraps, flavoring, coloring, skin snap control, and computer controlled extrusion machinery.

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                    lavaca RE: Cinnamon Aug 26, 2010 02:19 PM

                    I have a sneaking suspicion that almost everybody gets their sweet potato fries from the same supplier, at least here in FSA country. They seem to look and taste exactly the same no matter where I get them.

                  3. Tripeler RE: sbp Aug 25, 2010 06:22 AM

                    Extruded potato paste french fries -- I have seen them and tasted them and they are NOT pretty!

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                      coll RE: Tripeler Aug 25, 2010 06:23 AM

                      OMG what brand are they? I didn't think they existed, not even for prisons.

                    2. KaimukiMan RE: sbp Aug 26, 2010 01:28 PM

                      ok, way out here in the tropics we tend not to get things as fast (for better or worse). what are these things and what kind of places sell them? are they found in the market or just in the cheap diner/burger joints that sell the mini machine pressed patties that barely qualify as burgers?

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