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Jun 8, 2009 07:51 PM

2 great Cabernets: Caymus and Kenwood Artist

For me, these were a great treat, as I would normally not be able to afford either one. MSRP is around $75, which means if you shop carefully, you should be able to get them for about a Ulysses S. Grant per bottle. I was at the Walnut Creek Art & Wine Festival at Heather Farms, and they were selling glasses of each for an Alexander Hamilton per glass. What a bargain.
I did think the Kenwood was better: richer, fuller, more buttery, and definitely ready to drink now. Caymus was equally heavenly, but a bit more fruity and perhaps needing another year or two in the bottle for peak enjoyment. Still, both were great and I loved ‘em both.

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  1. It's a beautiful thing the way wine is subjective. I think Caymus (Napa, I'm assuming, based on the price) is THE most overrated wine out there, besides Opus. To each his own, though!

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    1. re: invinotheresverde

      The Caymus Special Selection is definitely not overrated. Overpriced, yes.

      1. re: baron45

        Haven't had a recent vintage, but I agree that the SS can be excellent. Also agree that it is overpriced.

        1. re: baron45

          I said the Napa was overrated, not the SS.

        2. re: invinotheresverde

          "I think Caymus (Napa, I'm assuming, based on the price) is THE most overrated wine out there, besides Opus"

          Silver Oak.

        3. What did you think about the oak levels in the wines?

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          1. re: zin1953

            Hey, for me the more oak the better. I am yet to drink wine with too much oak but I certainly had many wines were there wasn't enough oak for my taste. Sodas have no oak..he, he. Too bad I never had a chance to drink the above mentioned wines.

            1. re: olasek

              I have no idea who originally said this, but I'm surely indebted to him/her:

              "I like to taste the wine, not what it's been aged in".

              I guess I just don't "get" oak. Why cover up all that delicious juicity goodness?


              1. re: olasek

                "If you want oak, chew a toothpick."
                -- Louis P. Martini (1918-1998)

                OK, so I think that's a bit extreme, but not necessarily by much. Oak is a "spice," if you will, in the winemaker's "kitchen." Just as with a chef's use of salt, if the first thing you taste in the dish is salt, the chef used too much . . . but MOST of the time, if the chef didn't use ANY salt at all, the dish would be lacking "something" -- even if you couldn't put your finger (or taste bud) precisely on what that something might be.

                Or, as another wine professional once said,

                "Chardonnay doesn't taste like oak. OAK tastes like oak."
                -- Jason Brandt Lewis, 1953-

                Just my 2¢; YMMV

                1. re: zin1953


                  Harmonious. Integrated. Resolved.

                  1. re: zin1953

                    that Louis Martini quote is about the best summation of the "over oaked" issue that I've ever seen