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2 great Cabernets: Caymus and Kenwood Artist

jerry i h Jun 8, 2009 07:51 PM

For me, these were a great treat, as I would normally not be able to afford either one. MSRP is around $75, which means if you shop carefully, you should be able to get them for about a Ulysses S. Grant per bottle. I was at the Walnut Creek Art & Wine Festival at Heather Farms, and they were selling glasses of each for an Alexander Hamilton per glass. What a bargain.
I did think the Kenwood was better: richer, fuller, more buttery, and definitely ready to drink now. Caymus was equally heavenly, but a bit more fruity and perhaps needing another year or two in the bottle for peak enjoyment. Still, both were great and I loved ‘em both.

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  1. invinotheresverde RE: jerry i h Jun 9, 2009 09:37 AM

    It's a beautiful thing the way wine is subjective. I think Caymus (Napa, I'm assuming, based on the price) is THE most overrated wine out there, besides Opus. To each his own, though!

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    1. re: invinotheresverde
      baron45 RE: invinotheresverde Jun 11, 2009 10:33 AM

      The Caymus Special Selection is definitely not overrated. Overpriced, yes.

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        whiner RE: baron45 Jun 12, 2009 12:35 AM

        Haven't had a recent vintage, but I agree that the SS can be excellent. Also agree that it is overpriced.

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          invinotheresverde RE: baron45 Jun 12, 2009 06:36 AM

          I said the Napa was overrated, not the SS.

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          whiner RE: invinotheresverde Jun 12, 2009 12:35 AM

          "I think Caymus (Napa, I'm assuming, based on the price) is THE most overrated wine out there, besides Opus"

          Silver Oak.

          1. re: whiner
            invinotheresverde RE: whiner Jun 12, 2009 06:36 AM

            Super good call!

            1. re: invinotheresverde
              maria lorraine RE: invinotheresverde Jun 15, 2009 10:32 PM

              No question.

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          zin1953 RE: jerry i h Jun 9, 2009 03:55 PM

          What did you think about the oak levels in the wines?

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            olasek RE: zin1953 Jun 10, 2009 05:00 PM

            Hey, for me the more oak the better. I am yet to drink wine with too much oak but I certainly had many wines were there wasn't enough oak for my taste. Sodas have no oak..he, he. Too bad I never had a chance to drink the above mentioned wines.

            1. re: olasek
              invinotheresverde RE: olasek Jun 10, 2009 09:28 PM

              I have no idea who originally said this, but I'm surely indebted to him/her:

              "I like to taste the wine, not what it's been aged in".

              I guess I just don't "get" oak. Why cover up all that delicious juicity goodness?


              1. re: olasek
                zin1953 RE: olasek Jun 11, 2009 07:51 AM

                "If you want oak, chew a toothpick."
                -- Louis P. Martini (1918-1998)

                OK, so I think that's a bit extreme, but not necessarily by much. Oak is a "spice," if you will, in the winemaker's "kitchen." Just as with a chef's use of salt, if the first thing you taste in the dish is salt, the chef used too much . . . but MOST of the time, if the chef didn't use ANY salt at all, the dish would be lacking "something" -- even if you couldn't put your finger (or taste bud) precisely on what that something might be.

                Or, as another wine professional once said,

                "Chardonnay doesn't taste like oak. OAK tastes like oak."
                -- Jason Brandt Lewis, 1953-

                Just my 2¢; YMMV

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                  maria lorraine RE: zin1953 Jun 15, 2009 10:33 PM


                  Harmonious. Integrated. Resolved.

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                    ibstatguy RE: zin1953 Jun 19, 2009 01:18 PM

                    that Louis Martini quote is about the best summation of the "over oaked" issue that I've ever seen

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