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Jun 3, 2009 03:11 PM

Where to find best Dim Sum

Where would I find the best selection of home made dim sum in or around Montreal and not necessarily on a Sunday

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      1. re: Alyson777

        Was informed that Ruby Rouge is excellent, but to avoid a long line up, arrive before 11am.

      2. Tong Por in Cartierville (the former Le Président) and New Jing Hua on the south shore blow Chinatown's dim sum palaces out of the water. Haven't yet been to the south shore's Foo Wor or Kam Fung. Also, you should note that I almost always go for dim sum on weekends.

        If just dumplings will do, head for Qing Hua in the Concordia ghetto.

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        1. re: carswell

          Foo Wor is fine, not as good as Le President was, or New Jing Hua is, but certainly not bad, and much better than anything you will find in downtown Chinatown.

          1. re: cherylmtl

            looove the steamed bbq pork buns at new jing hua!

          2. re: carswell

            I am a big fan of Tong Por and New Jing Hua, but I disagree that they blow all of Chinatown's dim sum places out of the water. Kam Fung has some so-so days, but overall I still find the dim sum experience there to be very good. The overall quality and selection is consistent and good, and I am still quite happy to keep it in the rotation. Sometimes you want Kam Fung dim sum, sometimes you want New Jing Hua. Each resto has its strength and weaknesses, and it is nice to have a little variety.

            1. re: moh

              «I am a big fan of Tong Por and New Jing Hua, but I disagree that they blow all of Chinatown's dim sum places out of the water.»

              Kam Fung's been decidedly lacklustre on my last two or three visits. Can't think of a single dish that wasn't done better at New Jing Hua, Le Président or Tong Por VSL. Can't think of a single dish that excited me the way that, say, the jellied pig's trotter at NJH or the shrimp wrapped in rice noodles at LP or the whiskery taro stuffed with pork at TPVSL did. Ruby Rouge has been very inconsistent and I always seem to get a table in Siberia. I also find the suburban spaces less claustrophobic (may have something to do with the windows afforded by a strip mall location) and the overall experience more enjoyable. So, while I agree that variety is a good thing, since discovering NJH and TPVSL, I can't say I've found myself wanting Kam Fung dim sum. Then again, I've only been to NJH, LP and TPVSL in parties with you but have never been to Chinatown with you, and nobody ever takes *me* for Chinese...

              1. re: carswell

                At Kam Fung restaurant(I was at their Brossard location late-Sunday morning yesterday), we got a dish during dim sum that I don't know exact name of the item. It was a single serving of a very large dumpling on top of a soup based broth. Any idea what I got?

                1. re: BLM

                  Possibly sharks fin dumpling.

                  1. re: jadec

                    Is this something that they have on their menu? I know it's expensive and wrong for so many reasons, but I would like to taste sharks fin, just once to know what all the fuss is about. I blame Iron Chef.

                    1. re: The Chemist

                      I noticed they have shark fin soup at Mon nan for about 25$ I believe. I heard they go for up to 90$ a bowl in some places.

                    2. re: jadec

                      I didn't pay the bill, or check the cost of this specific dish. I would doubt it was shark fin dumpling(the 4 of us ate full for $36(including taxes)). Inside the dumpling was some shrimp. This was a giant dumpling(like a dumpling on steroids).

                      1. re: BLM

                        shanghainese soup dumpling? did you guys eat it with a straw?


                        that thing is from shanghai, and you aren't supose to eat the other layer, but just drink the soup.

                        1. re: vanierstudent

                          Nope. No straw. The dumpling was smaller than that. The dumpling itself is not a soup dumpling(just that it's in a soup broth, about half-way up or more).

                    3. re: BLM

                      <Any idea what I got?>

                      Nope. Don't see anything matching the description on Kam Fung's website either. If not shark fin, what was it stuffed with?

                      1. re: carswell

                        I only know for certain some shrimp. I shared the dumpling with about other 2 people.

                        1. re: carswell

                          I just checked the La Maison Kam Fung website. Yep, it's none of those dim sum items. Although a couple of the dim sum items pictured on the Kam Fung site, I don't think I've ever seen for dim sum at Kam Fung(either the Chinatown or Taschereau locations).

                          1. re: carswell

                            I spoke to a person at Kam Fung Brossard restaurant yesterday. She didn't know the name of the dish(only know the name in Chinese), except it's a soup dumpling. And it's not listed on their dim sum menu.

                    4. re: carswell

                      Personally, I LOVED Kam Fung when I went last month. It was better then Lotté Furama used to be on a good day. You do have to wait a while to get seated, but tables move quickly.

                      1. re: amelie1980

                        I like both Kam Fung and Ruby Rouge.
                        The secret to good Dim Sum is getting there early around 11am so you get the food hot and fresh.
                        I ask the waiter for a few things to start which they will go and get sometimes straight from the kitchen.
                        The rest you can pick from the carts. If you are there during the rush, often by the time the carts makes it to you it’s lukewarm.

                        1. re: InterFoodie

                          I dont knwo if its the best, but I enjoyed them at Cafe Mei on St-Laurent, near Fairmount.

                          1. re: MarcMTL

                            Anything new to add? Anything on a Friday night or is Sunday brunch the only real way to go? I will probably try Tong Por Cartierville because of location but can go anywhere if worthy for a Friday evening. Thanks!

                            1. re: humbert

                              Dim sum isn't really an evening thing; if you manage to order it's either a reheat or a packet. Saturday and Sunday brunch are best bets. You can also try Maison Foo Lam (ex-Zao's) on Acadie.

                              1. re: wattacetti

                                @watacetti: I beg to differ with your statement . There's an exception in my book and it's wok cafe for dim sum. I always order their har kao dim sum and it's a very good and fresh dim sum.

                                Over the years I only tried Dim Sum and the pad thai at this place so I can't comment on overall quality on the rest of their menu.

                                I would put my hand in fire to say that their Dim Sum are Top Notch. Freshly steamed on demand day or night.

                                Wok Cafe
                                1845 Rue Sainte-Catherine W, Montreal, QC H3H1M2, CA

                                1. re: maj54us

                                  What about the other dishes there? Anyone have anything to report? Menu looks "Canadian Chinese"......not my favorite since I worked at a buffet for 2 years...

                                  1. re: maj54us

                                    There are frozen har gow and other dumplings that give most restaurants a run for their money (Gilly brand, specifically). They take about 7 minutes to go from frozen solid to perfectly cooked.

                                    So... you could both be right. Could be from a packet, and could also be steamed on demand at any time of day or night, no need to have a proper dim sum chef on duty.

                                    No idea what they do at Wok Café, but I'm skeptical that a noodle joint of that ilk would be serving homemade dumplings.

                                    1. re: maj54us

                                      From what I remember, it's from a packet and steamed to order, and if it is made now, it's still coming from frozen since they're available at all times. You could ask though.

                        2. Seeing as how Wok Cafe is the only halfway decent delivery option in the South West these days, it's my go to for Chinese. I always order their shu mai but to be honest and from a discerning point of view, it's really no great shakes. It's not bad, but it's not homemade and is obviously from a freezer pack. Still better than the typical Westernized alternatives that cater to similar clientele, but not worth your time to seek out. It's fine for home delivery on a cold night. As for their other menu options, it's hit or miss and mostly following the same formula. Nothing exceptional, nothing terrible either that I've yet to try. Their bbq duck noodle soup was fatty and oily, and the greens could have been fresher. Most of their Cantonese noodle dishes are fine. It's not a place I'd ever consider as a destination, only for comfort delivery when hungry and lazy. If you stick with the typical Cantonese and Szechuan standards, you'll be fine for the most part. Just keep expectations within context. It's average at best 'Montreal Chinese', which outside of a small handful of newer restaurants in the Concordia ghetto, is unfortunately a notch better than most other offerings in the city.

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                          1. re: OliverB

                            I like the chinese broccoli and beef (ask for it spicy)
                            and the bbq pork and chicken fried rice
                            sometimes the 1/2 duck is really good
                            the chui chi dim sum is pretty good
                            I agree wok cafe isnt great by any means but they do offer some really tasty options .... as far as I know the best chinese delivery downtown

                            not good: the lemon chicken and the sesame beef

                            1. Last month I went for DS at Maison Foo Lam and today I went to Tong Por (VSL). I have to say I was not impressed with either. The better DS was at MFL but still it did not live up to my memories of DS in Hong Kong and San Francisco. The dumplings at MFL were thick skinned and not very refined; also, the majority of choices were fried or overly greasy; not a light breakfast by any means. This partly our fault in choosing our plated but also the variety wasn't there. Tong Por did have more variety but was an even bigger letdown; all the pork and beef items had a funny smell and I found them bland. The shrimp items and crab claw were also lacklustre. Overall nothing stood out. In all fairness, around 12 noon, more interesting stuff came out like the taro cakes, scallion pancakes and chinese broccoli but by then we were too full. We went at 10:45, so maybe that was too early.
                              Anyway, I was dissappointed with both and it will be awhile before I rally the troops for another DS expedition; maybe when the craving strikes, I will head to the South Shore for Kam Fung or New Jing Hua.

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                              1. re: hungryann

                                f you are talking about foolam at 9394 boul de l'acadie, that was the most disappointing dim sum experience ever lived. I was invited for lunch and their dim sum had no flavors in them and they kind of all tasted the same.

                                1. re: maj54us

                                  I was at la maison Kam Fung in China town and i have to say that i was satisfied with the quality,service and price. Some of the servers even speak to you in french!
                                  My last visit at maison Kam fung was 30 years ago and i found it better now.