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mattyboy May 30, 2009 05:53 PM

Drove through Texas last week but only had time for two meals. Hit Louie Muellers for lunch. Great barbecue. Also Had dinner at Pappas in Houston. Exactly what was it I ate ? It seemed to be chopped brisket in a thin sauce . Is this something unique to Houston.

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  1. LewisvilleHounder RE: mattyboy May 30, 2009 09:37 PM

    Did you eat at Pappas Barbecue in Houston? We don't know what you ate exactly. What did you order from the menu? Chopped Beef?


    Just about every BBQ restaurant has the option of a chopped beef sandwich in Texas with the exception of a few (Kreuz, Smittys, etc). The thin sauce is very much different from KC sauce which looks like where you are from. We like it thin, vinegary, and tomato based sometimes with a bit of a pepper kick to it.

    The top BBQ places in the Texas Hill Country don't even offer sauce on the meats and they don't need it. Covering meats up in a sauce usually is an indication of the poor quality in the person smoking the meat (pitmaster) or a chain.

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    1. re: LewisvilleHounder
      mattyboy RE: LewisvilleHounder Jun 2, 2009 03:57 PM

      Had the beef Po-Boy. Yes , I am from K.C. And no K.C. Barbecue is not all about the sauce! I agree it can be used to cover up culinary crapola such as K.C. Masterpiece. However I feel that anyone with an open mind can enjoy barbecue from all the regions. Hope I did not disparage Pappas rep. Just wanted to know if their is a Houston school of barbecue.

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        James Cristinian RE: mattyboy Jun 2, 2009 09:25 PM

        mattyboy, I'm going to be in K.C. in about a month. What do you suggest? I've heard about Bryant's. Do they slather on the sauce, or can I get it on the side? Is it good, or just a legend? As for Pappas, I think you'll find the really good BBQ is found outside of the largest cities: Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, and Austin. There is not, in my opinion, a Houston school. I'm not even going to attempt to get into it. There are many different opinions, check out the numerous Houston and Texas BBQ threads.

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          mattyboy RE: James Cristinian Jun 4, 2009 08:40 AM

          J.C. Happy to oblige! I would say yes to Bryants. It is an institution, I think the original location is the way to go. Order brisket and ribs . the fries are to die for. L.Cs. BBQ at Blue Pkwy. and Sni-a-bar Rd. is also a favorite. Oklahoma Joes at 3002 W. 47thst. is another good option. Another rec. would be any of the Gates and sons locations, They are a local chain but are consistantly good. Any of these places will gladly serve the sauce on the side at your request. Sorry for the incomplete addresses I will try to dig the rest up and send them along. K.C. is relatively easy to get around in if you have a car. Keep me posted.

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            James Cristinian RE: mattyboy Jul 17, 2009 10:40 PM

            mattyboy, I'm a mere 36 hours from Bryant's. any final suggestions? Also, I'm primed for a Royals game on Sunday wiith temps in the low 80's. Whadayasay?

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              mattyboy RE: James Cristinian Jul 18, 2009 05:26 PM

              Stick to your plan. Sounds great! Go Royals!

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              shamfoody RE: mattyboy Jul 24, 2009 01:34 PM

              Mattyboy sure do know his BBQ. But let me tell you a thing...there's nothin' better than hearing the timeless "HI, MAY I HELP YOU!" siren call of some lip smakin' Gates 'n Sons. That's what I'm talkin' bout!

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                mattyboy RE: shamfoody Jul 28, 2009 03:20 PM

                O Tay Shamfoody . You are one of the next three persons! 1. One Dean Ferguson 2. Teddy Salad 3. Gene Scottabygwon!

            3. re: James Cristinian
              GroovinGourmet RE: James Cristinian Jun 17, 2009 06:49 AM

              I would have to agree with you, but that doesn't keep me from eating Q when I am back home. Pappas BBQ is OK considering it is coming from a big conglomerate.

              As for Bryant's, a big thumbs up. If I am ever back in KC that's the 2nd place I am heading after Boulevard Brewing. But back to the Q... I'd recommend ordering the stuff you can't get in Texas, unless you are open to smoked beef interpretations other than brisket. The beef is not anything like we are used to in Texas. And definitely get the fries. I really like their sauce... a unique flavor with a celery seed thing going on in the background.

        2. twinwillow RE: mattyboy May 30, 2009 10:03 PM

          The best thing is, you got to eat at Louie Mueller's. The best damn BBQ in the whole world! I know........I know, some of you prefer Kreuz's. Some of you prefer, Black's. And, some of you even prefer Smitty's.
          But for me, Louie Mueller's brisket, sausage links and beef ribs are, the bomb!

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            pinotho RE: twinwillow May 31, 2009 04:42 PM

            2nd the motion on L.Mueller's...............it must be really easy to put on weight in Taylor, Texas............

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            JethroSpanks RE: mattyboy Jul 25, 2009 08:44 AM

            Pappas BBQ is the darn near the worst BBQ I have ever put in my mouth...yuck. You'll be better off at some place like Dickey's. Seriously.

            (NOTE - That is in NO WAY a slight against Dickey's. Dickey's is solid and reliable. Like the Whataburger of BBQ. Like a Honda Accord...nothing to blow your mind, but always satisfies and gets you where you need to go more than comfortably. Reliable like that one girl we all know.....ahem......)

            The moral of the story: Pappas BBQ sucks.

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              twinwillow RE: JethroSpanks Aug 4, 2009 09:42 AM

              I don't know that girl anymore. Could I get the number of the girl you know?

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