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I'm embarrassed as a chowhound that I have never eaten ...

uwebres May 26, 2009 12:18 PM

I have been back in the Boston area for 18 months, and I live to eat. I admit I have never eaten in East Boston, not Angela's not Santarpios etc... and I don't live or work all that far either. I am sorry.

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  1. Snoop37 RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 12:24 PM

    I've lived in RI and Boston my entire life and I have never had a lobster roll. The most recent thread about lobster rolls has inspired me to go to B&G for dinner thursday to try it. I'll be arriving nice and early to avoid the crowd so no worries.

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      Prav RE: Snoop37 May 26, 2009 01:17 PM

      I'm a Michigan transplant and was really disappointed by my first lobster roll (years ago). Turns out I wasn't expecting the cold, mayo-y seafood salad - which is what a lot of the standard cold lobster rolls are like.

      I NEEED to try the famed Neptune hot-buttered style, the kind sans mayo/celery.

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        thegirlwholovestoeat RE: Snoop37 May 27, 2009 06:34 AM

        I also have never tried a lobster roll after living here for 4 years, I think I will have my first at Neptune this summer because hot with butter sounds MUCH better than cold with mayo!

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          Snoop37 RE: Snoop37 May 28, 2009 09:12 PM

          i had my first lobster roll at B&G and i must say it was pretty good. It was a great roll stuffed with a great deal of lobster, some mayo, and shavings of celery. I liked it, didn't love it, but now I'm happy to say I've tried it.

        2. hiddenboston RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 01:18 PM

          I haven't yet been to the Highland Kitchen in Somerville, Fuloon in Malden, or (gasp!) Eastern Standard in Kenmore Square. (Shame on me--shame, shame, shame...)

          1. Prav RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 01:19 PM

            I've never had Chacarero, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trip.

            I've never had Hamersley's chicken, but would like to some day.

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              hyde RE: Prav May 26, 2009 01:57 PM

              yeah, i have to go with Chacarero too. im never in that part of town when they are open. parking, etc. leaves downtown out when its easier to park or bike to allston and the options are remakable.

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                kf2vv RE: hyde May 27, 2009 10:25 PM

                La Mama's in Allston (yes, the divey pizza place on the corner) actually makes a really awesome chacarero and is open late; no need to go downtown unless you want it from the capital-C Chacarero stand.

                I actually think La Mama's does a better job than the canonical Chacarero (which I think has gone downhill), but I'll eat either with great happiness.

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                  Blumie RE: kf2vv May 28, 2009 06:41 AM

                  I disagree. I think the chacerero from Chacarero is much better.

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              powerfulpierre RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 01:38 PM

              I've never had a Speed's hot dog. . . . and I LOVE all hot dogs. Every time I think I need to trek down 93 to the market I get sidetracked and end up at Fred's Franks in Wakefield. If Speed's is better it must be H-D nirvana. Must. . .be. . .strong. . .to. . .get . . to. . .the. . .promised . .. land.

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                BobB RE: powerfulpierre May 27, 2009 06:42 AM

                Same here - for years now I've been meaning to get to Speed's but haven't done it yet. Oh well - the kid (21 yrs old) is home for the summer, one day soon I'll have to grab him and say, "Kid, skip breakfast today, we're going to Speed's for lunch!"

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                  fmcoxe6188 RE: BobB May 27, 2009 07:06 AM

                  Third this- Im ashamed at myself...

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                    mtm7654 RE: fmcoxe6188 May 28, 2009 06:49 AM

                    4th. No Speed dog and I live in Southie and could walk there! That's going to be remedied in about 2 weeks.

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                  Northender RE: powerfulpierre May 27, 2009 10:32 AM

                  Many regrets:

                  Never had a Speed's hot dog,; a visit to Angela's in EB or a meal or drink at the Franklin Cafe.

                3. SaraASR RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 01:45 PM

                  Beef. Oops.

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                    Prav RE: SaraASR May 26, 2009 03:33 PM

                    Some kind of Hindu? ;)

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                      SaraASR RE: Prav May 26, 2009 05:10 PM

                      Nope, just never had it. That I can remember, anyway. I had a vegetarian nanny when I was 2+ and her eating habits kind of rubbed off on me. When I tell people I've never had a hamburger, steak, etc., they're pretty shocked.

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                      uwebres RE: SaraASR May 26, 2009 05:03 PM

                      Sorry, kind of vague in the post name. I'll play your game too. I have never eaten yogurt. Never had it growing up, and while I eat almost any part of any animal as well as enjoying most dairy, the flavor/texture in my mind is always to great to overcome. I have had yogurt rubbed stuff that is then cooked.

                    3. C. Hamster RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 02:06 PM

                      I have never eaten a SPEED'S DOG ...

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                        heathermb RE: C. Hamster May 26, 2009 04:59 PM

                        Yeah, the Speed's dog is my 'houndly shame as well. I *WILL* have one this summer - this I promise!

                        PS: Great thread

                      2. Infomaniac RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 05:17 PM

                        One thing that has been on my to eat list for a long long time ia a Bartley's burger in Cambridge.

                        1. Pia RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 06:09 PM

                          Bahn mi! But next weekend that we're in town, I'm going to hit Bobalicious in Newton.

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                            Prav RE: Pia May 26, 2009 09:46 PM

                            Bobalicious is soooo delicious. I'm fortunate to work close to this place. The ladies who run it (sisters) are sooo sweet. Sometimes they offer really interesting Vietnamese soups, as well.

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                              kobuta RE: Pia May 27, 2009 09:38 AM

                              Whoa, 4.50 for a bahn mi? I hope that place serves up a mega-sized one or one that much more delicious than the places that charge almost $2 less.

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                                galleygirl RE: kobuta May 27, 2009 10:49 AM

                                They're not, unfortunately. I know I'll inflame all the Bobalicious fans, but if you're making an effort for your first, I'd definitely hit Dorchester, Ctown, or Super88 before Bobalicious.The bread is great, but they're underfilled, have NO pickled vegetables, and no heat. Other than that, it's a nice, light little sandwich.

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                                  lipoff RE: galleygirl May 27, 2009 11:30 AM

                                  I have to disagree here. I've had Banh Mi at a few places in Dorchester, at Lee's in Chinatown, and at Pho Viet's and I find the Bobalicious ones to be the best of all. They do use bread from a bakery in Dorchester, but I find the flavor of the meat (particularly BBQ beef) to be the deepest, the cilantro to be the highest quality (I think someone is picking out good leaves rather than using everything that they have), there are definitely pickled vegetables, and while I'm not sure what they do by default, if you ask for it hot, you shall definitely receive.

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                                    galleygirl RE: lipoff May 27, 2009 11:34 AM

                                    Okay, I've only been there once. I was asked twice if I wanted hot, I said yes twice, and got no heat. i also got no pickles. And while the tofu faux-meat was tasty and garlicky, it was a pretty meagre sandwich. maybe i caught them on a bad day, but I certainly can't see ranking them over the places in Dot. Where in Dot have you been?

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                                      Prav RE: galleygirl May 27, 2009 12:19 PM

                                      I've been told that the hotness of their peppers varies from shipment to shipment. That's what I was told at least. Regardless, it IS nice to have SOMETHING in Newton. Otherwise, the closest bahn mi would involve a trek to the Packard's Corner Super 88.

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                                        twentyoystahs RE: galleygirl May 27, 2009 05:42 PM

                                        I also am embarrassed to admit I've never had a Banh Mi. I'm not a big meat eater; not interested in pork or beef and I assumed both of these were staples for these sandwiches. Tofu...eh, just not top on my list. However, I enjoy a good chicken sandwich --if it's fairly good quality --can I get a Banh Mi chicken sandwich? I'd be up for that. If so, where? Appreciate any advice the hounds can offer up. I'd love to try one of these sandwiches, but clearly I want it to be filled with something I'll actually eat (and enjoy!)

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                                          MC Slim JB RE: twentyoystahs May 27, 2009 05:59 PM

                                          Quite a few places offer chicken banh mi. Pho Viet at the Allston Super 88 and King Do Baguette in Savin Hill are two that come immediately to mind. I'm pretty sure Mei Sum Bakery in Chinatown does one, too. It's a great sandwich, so fresh-tasting, and a bargain.


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                                            galleygirl RE: MC Slim JB May 28, 2009 04:48 AM

                                            Hmmm, not sure if Mei Sum does chicken. I know that I've brought people chicken (and chicken-style tofu-skin) from Ba Le Bakery, and they've been very happy with them...

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                                              MC Slim JB RE: galleygirl May 28, 2009 06:40 AM

                                              Not sure either: I'm certain Mei Sum has BBQ beef, cold cuts/pate, and tofu, all very good.


                                          2. re: twentyoystahs
                                            BarmyFotheringayPhipps RE: twentyoystahs May 27, 2009 06:30 PM

                                            The chicken banh mi at Pho Viet is my favorite in town.

                                          3. re: galleygirl
                                            lipoff RE: galleygirl May 27, 2009 07:06 PM

                                            I've been to Ba Le, Lee's, and Chau Bakery in Dorchester for Banh Mi. I meant to say Lu's in Chinatown, not Lee's. Sorry! Where have you been in Dorchester? I've never had pork or vegetarian Banh Mi, so maybe that accounts for part of the difference. And part of the difference can just be taste. =) But I've definitely had very spicy Banh Mi with pickles at Bobalicious.

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                                        Prav RE: kobuta May 27, 2009 11:10 AM

                                        Yeah, but it's Newton rent.

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                                      mouths2feed RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 06:43 PM

                                      I am embarrassed to say that I have not eaten at O Ya yet. Still saving for that splurge.

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                                        lizzoob RE: mouths2feed May 27, 2009 06:36 PM

                                        Likewise. Though I'm not exactly embarrassed, actually-- rather I am very interested, but can't quite bring myself to lay out what it will cost!

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                                          StriperGuy RE: mouths2feed May 28, 2009 12:35 AM

                                          Save your $. Not worth the $200pp+ it will set you back to have a whole meal there.

                                          Grab a bite or two at the bar (which is still a solid $50+) and go have dinner elsewhere.

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                                            rlove RE: StriperGuy May 28, 2009 05:38 AM

                                            In my experience, it is more like $100-125 per person, before alcohol. Grab a decently-priced bottle of white wine or sake and you are well south of $200, including alcohol.

                                            We've been a shocking number of times and the price is always approximately in that range, and I never put a cap on the cost of the omikase.

                                            I think O Ya truly is worth that price. Its an amazing meal, my favorite in Boston. But that, of course, is debatable.

                                            To control costs, you could ask for no wagyu, removing the most expensive menu item, and allowing you to get a pork dish, which is fantastic.

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                                              StriperGuy RE: rlove May 28, 2009 06:29 AM

                                              I did a full meal there with another hungry guy; we had three small bottles of sake. We were intentionally not paying any attention to cost. Admittedly we hit the menu pretty hard, but it was just shy of $500 with tax and tip and we were barely even full.

                                              Perhaps you are a bit more delicate in your consumption, and we did have the wagyu, but it was no trouble at all to get it over $200 pp for two folks who were actually interested in a meal and some wine as opposed to a delicate nibble.

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                                                rlove RE: StriperGuy May 28, 2009 07:05 AM

                                                Interesting counterpoint.

                                                I'm no light eater, for sure. One difference is I don't order off the menu; we always get the Omikase for 2 and I leave very satisfied.

                                                If you go back, try the omikase instead of ordering à la carte--its the best way to experience O Ya, in my opinion, and I am curious how it works out for you price-wise.

                                                One thing I like about the Omikase for 2 is that its not just two of everything. For some dishes, they deliver only one (one piece each, or the wagyu to share) and for other dishes they order 2 or even half. They've gotten very good at managing it over the last year.

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                                                MC Slim JB RE: rlove May 28, 2009 06:43 AM

                                                That $100-125 range works great for me, too (I also say "no Wagyu"), but I can see how a real trencherman could leave hungry after that. No surprise that the sake or wine can really pump up the bill.


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                                            yummieeee RE: uwebres May 26, 2009 10:32 PM

                                            Chacarero and santarpios. I will try chacarero next week and santarpios sometime this summer.

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                                              TheScribe RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 06:06 AM

                                              I gotta join the Speed's hot dog bandwagon. I have yet to get myself over there. I am a lazy bum, undeserving of the label 'Chowhound'.

                                              my blog: thegeminiweb.com

                                              1. Bob MacAdoo RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 08:18 AM

                                                King Fung Garden is #1 on my list. No excuse really. I'm a Peking duck fiend and never ever turn down a decent dumpling. I went in once with a lady friend, but she was spooked by the decor (or lack thereof) so we ended up at New Shanghai (during its short run as an above-average Cantonese style restaurant - remember the great Lion's Head meatballs?). Gotta get there somehow ...

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                                                  Gabatta RE: Bob MacAdoo May 27, 2009 10:44 AM

                                                  Ditto on King Fung and peking duck.

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                                                    pamlet RE: Bob MacAdoo May 27, 2009 01:52 PM

                                                    I'm afraid you'll be sadly disappointed. I went to KFG with a friend from Beijing (and our families) for a Chinese New Year celebration dinner (not actually on the NY, but still...) -- it was really a let-down. The Peking duck was not that good. And our car almost got towed because they hadn't had enough of the cards you're supposed to put in the window, so we didn't get one and a huge unpleasant argument ensued...

                                                  2. Alcachofa RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 09:56 AM

                                                    Live gagh.

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                                                      MC Slim JB RE: Alcachofa May 27, 2009 12:04 PM

                                                      It's totally overrated, all about the ambience and the scene. Real gagh is best enjoyed at home, away from the trend-monkeys and self-styled foodies, all showing off their fancy pronunciations.


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                                                        uwebres RE: MC Slim JB May 27, 2009 12:15 PM

                                                        And the price has gone through the roof since Rachel Ray started hyping it.

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                                                          Prav RE: MC Slim JB May 27, 2009 12:20 PM

                                                          I've never imbibed a real Vogon gargleblaster.

                                                          <I'm such a nerd>

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                                                            Aromatherapy RE: Prav May 28, 2009 05:15 AM

                                                            Me neither, but my coffee just went up my nose. ;-)

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                                                          Bob Dobalina RE: Alcachofa May 27, 2009 12:25 PM

                                                          Just like a chowhound to rave about something with great "mouth-feel" when it actually tastes like crap.

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                                                            Prav RE: Bob Dobalina May 27, 2009 01:13 PM

                                                            Thanks for making me LOL at work.

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                                                          phatchris RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 10:36 AM

                                                          No 9 Park, B&G, Bahn mi, and pork buns.

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                                                            bluesjack RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 11:37 AM

                                                            never tried Pho

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                                                              Blumie RE: uwebres May 27, 2009 02:59 PM

                                                              I was a regular at Rachel's Kitchen, but have yet to make it to Hungry Mother.

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                                                                missfoodie RE: Blumie May 27, 2009 06:06 PM

                                                                ...never quite made it to Craigie on Main, but I will!

                                                              2. birdy30 RE: uwebres May 28, 2009 05:12 AM

                                                                Alas, Angela's and Speed's...

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                                                                  jody RE: birdy30 May 28, 2009 05:51 AM


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                                                                  meg1641 RE: uwebres May 28, 2009 09:20 PM

                                                                  So many places to try - No. 9 Park, Locke-Ober, L'Espalier, Bina Osteria and Sorrellina come to mind. Plus I have not had Angela's in EB or Speed's Hot Dogs but I plan to this summer.

                                                                  I love the banh mi at Mei Sum, which I learned about on this board, and wish I had one right now!

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