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Daniel76 May 26, 2009 08:35 AM

I have been hearing crazy talk about Pat Lafrieda burger mixture.. Since I didnt eat enough crap this weekend, I figured, let's get some burgers tonight..

I have heard about the crazy meat mixture at City Burger but, I am going to be more downtown this evening..

So my question is, where is the best place to sample his burger mixture..

Black Iron BUrger in the east village?

Minetta Tavern?

Any other places that are making really good burgers with his meat?

Thanks,

Daniel

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    RGR May 26, 2009 08:39 AM

    Blue Smoke uses La Frieda meat for their burgers -- an excellent burger, imo.

    http://www.bluesmoke.com

    ETA: Actually, so does Shake Shack. But the burger at Blue Smoke is much thicker.

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      sam1 May 26, 2009 08:40 AM

      the minetta black label burger is insanely good but more of an extravagant version of the lafrieda meat.

      doesnt shake shack use lafrieda meat?

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        RGR May 26, 2009 08:41 AM

        I just cross-edited my post to add that info about Shake Shack.

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        magfitz May 26, 2009 09:08 AM

        While I can't speak to the burger mixture used, I am very fond of Black Iron Burger. My husband and I (and our 21 month old daughter) enjoy the casual setting. Great place for a very good burger and a beer at a reasonable price. Fries are also very good (and peppery).

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          Daniel76 May 26, 2009 09:12 AM

          I spoke to my buddy about Minetta and he believes it might be a little too classy for what we are looking for.. Thanks for the Black Iron Burger recommendation, I think this is where we are headed tonight.

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            KTinNYC May 26, 2009 09:21 AM

            Black Iron began using LaFrieda mix but no longer. I'll try and find the article that I read that confirms this fact.

            ETA Here's the article http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/din...

            "Mr. Hennings opened with a LaFrieda blend, but now uses a less vaunted supplier. The meat does fine in the Iron Horse but doesn’t stand up as well in the single-patty burger."

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              ian9139 May 26, 2009 06:46 PM

              It is possible that your friend is considering Frank Bruni's recent review, which probably paints Minetta Tavern as a classier restaurant then it is. Otoh, $26 is a lot to pay for a burger, and that may be more what he is referring to. The Minetta Burger, at $16, is still on the upper end as far as burgers go, but it is more reasonably priced and many love it- another excellent example of La Frieda burgers.

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            ginsbera May 26, 2009 06:25 PM

            the "black label" is available at Minetta, it's $26. It's more like a dry-aged steak than regular burger, but I hear it has many fans, if you're willing to spend the money. City Burger also has a version of the "black label", but IMO it is overrated and not very good.

            Little Owl, Shake Shack, Market Table all use Pat LaFrieda's meat as well.

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              kathryn May 26, 2009 07:10 PM

              Via the NYT:

              "But Mr. LaFrieda told me he sells Black Label only to Minetta Tavern and that City Burger’s blend, which he calls City Black mix, isn’t aged quite as long."

              http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/15/din...

            2. Slob May 26, 2009 07:04 PM

              I'm clearly in the minority, but I think the Black Label burger at Minetta is overrated. It was OK, but for $26 it needs to be incredible, and it's not.

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                Daniel76 May 27, 2009 09:03 AM

                Went to Black Iron Burger last night and really enjoyed my experience.. I would not like it as much if it was crowded.. We arrived and there were no burger orders up.. We placed our order and the guy went right to work cooking..

                We started with the fried green tomatoes and I felt they were terrific.. Crispy right out of the fryer, smoking hot..

                I then ordered the double burger which came with the horseraddish cheddar and fried onions..

                I opted to not have fried onions on the burger but, instead, ordered onion rings.. Also asked for bacon. We also asked for fries but,. the waitress never put them in..

                Burger came out perfect, love the bun, both patties were super juicy.. The bun is really airy and does not over power the burger or really take away anything from the meat..

                Place is super tiny, they have a great beer list.. Maybe not Pat Lafrieda meat or anything but, it's a really good burger..

                I file this in my I wish I knew about this place when I was 20 file.

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                  BillyBob Jan 2, 2010 04:02 AM

                  Here is a good story about Pat LaFrieda. We used to live down in the Village (near Leroy and Greenwich) right next to Pat LaFrieda's place. We got to know him - really nice guy with a great sense of humor. He told us the story about how his father (who also apparently had a good sense of humor), when he was running the business, had the sign on his trucks:"Pat LaFrieda says EAT MY MEAT". When they started delivering to higher end places, especially the hotels, Pat received multiple requests to change the tag line, which now reads:"Pat LaFrieda, hte first name in meat".

                  I think burgers made from his mix are really good generally, but I agree that they have to be cooked on the griddle. Even when certain places - my current negative view is on HB Burger - get the right beef, they dont cook it hard enough on the outside so its got some crust/carmelization. I have had two in a row at HB Burger which were so "mis-cooked" (flabby, undercooked and as a result almost tasteless), I don't want to go back again. I have to go back near times square today (MSG too) - does anyone remember the name of the new burger place - somewhere in the west 40s near 7th/8th? I remember reading about it somewhere but cant remember the name - I am not thinking of 5 napkin, this place I recall was somewhat downscale, almost takeout....

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                    chow_gal Jan 2, 2010 06:26 AM

                    If in the MSG area, may I suggest the Lamb (I know, I know) burger at The Breslin. Best thing I ate in 2009 and officially my new hangout. (In fact, we'll probably be there after the hockey game - look for a pair of adult twins and a girl)

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                      kathryn Jan 2, 2010 06:48 AM

                      Schipper's Quality Kitchen?

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                        BillyBob Jan 2, 2010 07:04 AM

                        that's the one - thanks

                2. erica Jan 2, 2010 09:48 AM

                  Is there any retail source other than Fresh Direct that sells LaFreida meat blends?

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                    erica Jan 6, 2010 02:02 PM

                    But where can I BUY it to cook at home?

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                      Miss Needle Jan 6, 2010 02:12 PM

                      Erica, this is not answering your question as I don't know of any retail establishments that sell LaFrieda meats. But I did order the shortrib blend from Fresh Direct and thought it was pretty good. Got a nice crusty sear on a super hot cast iron pan and was able to cook it to my specifications.

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                        erica Jan 7, 2010 10:52 AM

                        Thanks--you are sharp!!!

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                    wonka Jan 6, 2010 06:31 AM

                    They also use LaFredia meat at Robert's Restaurant, and there they use his Black Label, which is dry aged prime meats....It's to die for.....what makes it so good is the roll, i believe it's a ciabatta roll, just airy enough that the roll is used to hold the meat just right. The chef here also serves it with these amazing French fries, "everything fries", I seen them in Time Out NY food issue...WOW.

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                      ginsbera Jan 6, 2010 08:44 AM

                      the only place that uses the REAL black label blend is Minetta Tavern, I've talked to the LaFrieda folks myself to confirm.

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                        wonka Jan 6, 2010 09:49 AM

                        That's not true......I know for a fact that they (Robert's Restaurant) uses the Black Label Mix.

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                          ginsbera Jan 7, 2010 06:43 AM

                          Just going by what I've been told. Not to mention any place that has the black label mix has used that as a press opp and there is nothing online supporting that they carry it. If they do, great as it offers another place to go.

                          City Burger used to say they had the black label mix, but LaFrieda told the press that they had a special blend, but it was not in fact the true black label blend. Eventually City Burger closed down (there burger was not that good anyway).

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                        NAtiveNewYorker Jan 6, 2010 09:04 PM

                        Robert's is terrific but different from Minetta. Preparation, maybe. Meat mix, possible too.

                      3. LeahBaila Jan 7, 2010 10:59 AM

                        ...and if you want to make your own Pat La Frieda-blend burgers at home, you can buy their patties through www.freshdirect.com. I can attest to their excellent quality, freshness and taste. I was very impressed with my brisket-blend.

                        www.thelunchbelle.com

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