622253 Sun May 24 11:20:23 -0700 2009 31 12 Boston Area 0 4710883 Does anyone know where I can find these in the Boston area? Sun May 24 11:20:23 -0700 2009 110819 bakerboyz 1 4710964 Not scotch bonnets per se, but Whole Foods (at least the ones at Symphony and Riverside) have habanero chile peppers. Scotch bonnets are just cultivars of the habanero--both are the same species, Capsicum Chinense Jacquin. I'm not sure how the cultivars differ, but they seem indistinguishable to me, one being the variety from the caribbean and the other from central & south America. They both share the same two defining characteristics--high Scoville rating and a wonderful citrusy note--that would make them interchangeable in recipes. Failing that, you might be able to find scotch bonnets at one of the Jamaican grocery stores in JP, but I wouldn't be surprised if anything labeled "scotch bonnet" was actually a habanero, or vice versa. I recently infused tequila blanco with habaneros, to wonderful result: http://food.rlove.org/2009/03/habanero-infused-tequila.html Good luck! Sun May 24 12:12:27 -0700 2009 4710883 193495 rlove 2 4711481 SCOTCH BONNET Just to clarify ... The habanero is not the same pepper as the Scotch Bonnet They are of the same species but the Scotch Bonnet is not a Cultivar. The Scotch Bonnet has a different shape - one which closely resembles a Scot's bonnet - so it is very easy to differentiate the two. The Scotch Bonnet grows mainly in the Caribbean islands while the habanero grows mainly in Latin and North American. The flavor of the two, however, is very similar as is their heat level. http://www.thescarms.com/hotstuff/pepperfacts.htm I grow them all the time and cooking with them there is a definite difference in flavor. Most whole foods will order them as they order them for me when I don't have any on hand or frozen. They freeze very well too. Sun May 24 16:26:02 -0700 2009 4710964 232829 kchurchill5 3 4711496 Arax often has em, by the shape I'd say habanero, to me scoth bonnets are a bit more squished lookin. Sun May 24 16:33:02 -0700 2009 4711481 10169 StriperGuy 1 4710974 I see them pretty rtegularly at Market Basket and Stop and Shop. Pretty sure Russo's has them most of the time. Sun May 24 12:17:39 -0700 2009 4710883 22725 AHan 2 4714892 Yes, Russo's also has them regularly (habaneros - not sure about scotch bonnets). They are also easy to grow, though I once made the terrible mistake of pureeing a bunch of them in the blender - I essentially maced my entire household, even the cats had tears coming out of their eyes from the capsaicin whipped into the air by the blender. Tue May 26 07:01:56 -0700 2009 4710974 23376 nsenada 3 4714964 Never mind rendering your blender permanently unusable :( Tue May 26 07:27:11 -0700 2009 4714892 10169 StriperGuy 4 4715100 I have pureed habaneros in the blender to make hot sauce (Inner Beauty, yum), and I had no problems with fumes or cleaning. Tue May 26 08:14:22 -0700 2009 4714964 103311 DanW 5 4715237 I do this also in a blender or food processer and never had any issue with fumes or cleaning. Tue May 26 08:59:09 -0700 2009 4715100 11222 Infomaniac 6 4715308 Glad to hear it. Would have thought it would be hard to get the taste out of the blender. Tue May 26 09:18:33 -0700 2009 4715237 10169 StriperGuy 7 4715461 If the taste is still there it's not noticable to me, although my taste buds are all burnt-out...in a good way. Tue May 26 10:00:46 -0700 2009 4715308 11222 Infomaniac 5 4715456 Part of the problem may have been that I put a LOT off peppers in, and pureed them whole without cutting first. I think the air inside the peppers might have contributed to the problem. Tue May 26 09:59:44 -0700 2009 4715100 23376 nsenada 6 4716215 The first batch I made I cut them up and seeded them. The second batch I just trimmed off the stems and put them in whole. Neither one had problems but I think I had less than half the blender jar filled with them and I included other ingredients (mustard, molasses, etc.). One thing to note is that I was using a blender with a glass jar. My new blender has a plastic jar, so in a couple weeks I will be seeing if the flavor lingers on. :) Tue May 26 13:33:16 -0700 2009 4715456 103311 DanW 7 4716352 Now we all know what you were making! :-) Tue May 26 14:04:49 -0700 2009 4716215 43893 C. Hamster 5 4717000 A bit of a tangent, but since you brought up Inner Beauty sauce: I've been making it using a modified version of this recipe for a few years: http://cooking.netrelief.com/recipes/home_style_inner_beauty_hot_sauce_recipe.shtml ... but last week I discovered this: http://www.seriouseats.com/2007/02/chris-schlesinger-gets-saucy.html Obviously quite different, especially the use of pineapple and papaya juice rather than mango flesh. So which is the "correct" recipe? As an aside to my aside, I ate at ECG last week and the Inner Beauty was terrible! Way too mustardy and not very spicy. Bad batch, I hope, and not a new direction for the sauce at its source. Tue May 26 17:56:39 -0700 2009 4715100 65478 davis_sq_pro 6 4718137 Hmmm, that is really interesting. I have made the version with the mango flesh a few times and felt it was never the same as the Inner Beauty you get at ECG and with many of the Hell Night dishes. This may explain why. I will have to whip up a batch of this new stuff and give it a try! :) Thanks! Wed May 27 06:41:36 -0700 2009 4717000 108377 TomH 6 4718161 Back when they still bottled it there were two versions, Inner Beauty Hot Sauce and Inner Beauty REAL Hot Sauce. Maybe you got the former? Wed May 27 06:47:59 -0700 2009 4717000 14386 BobB 6 4718221 I have been making a (slight) variation on the first recipe. It's not the same as the Inner Beauty at the ECG, but I like it a lot (as do my friends and coworkers). I went to the most recent Hell Night (all three nights, lol) and the Inner Beauty was much thinner and more mustardy. Good, but not great. Wed May 27 07:06:38 -0700 2009 4717000 103311 DanW 6 4718380 Supposedly the Serious Eats version (with the handwritten recipe) is the original. The recipe in his cookbook is clearly not the original, as you could quite clearly taste the allspice and pineapple in the original version. Especially the former. I make mine using sort of a mishmash of each recipe, with allspice and pineapple. No orange juice, wine or oil. I haven't been to ECG for a few months now, but I agree that the last time I had the IB it was too mustardy. 6 months ago or so it was very tasty. Wed May 27 07:58:30 -0700 2009 4717000 43893 C. Hamster 3 4715786 I've maced my kitchen by putting all the seeds, stems, lopped off tops down the garbage disposer. FUMES! Tue May 26 11:33:46 -0700 2009 4714892 43893 C. Hamster 1 4711465 They're usually at Haymarket for very small $.. quite a few West Indian customers. Sun May 24 16:20:50 -0700 2009 4710883 10111 9lives 1 4714877 I have always been able to find them at the Market Basket on Somerville Avenue Tue May 26 06:56:35 -0700 2009 4710883 108377 TomH 1 4714957 I ordered from these guys before. Great plants! http://www.chileplants.com/ Tue May 26 07:23:48 -0700 2009 4710883 232829 kchurchill5 1 4715010 I know it's not open yet, the but the callaloo guy at the Central Square farmer's market has them in the summer months; inexpensive (I think I've bought bags of 6 for $2) and literally mind-blowing. Tue May 26 07:43:21 -0700 2009 4710883 13147 garlic breath 2 4715711 What days is the farmers market in Central? Tue May 26 11:10:38 -0700 2009 4715010 95686 ChickenBrocandZiti 3 4715848 Monday afternoons, located in the parking lot behind the Harvest Co-op and Central Kitchen. Tue May 26 11:50:12 -0700 2009 4715711 13147 garlic breath 1 4716991 A guy at the Davis Square farmers market usually has them on hand during the summer months. He always gives me a lecture when I buy a bag of them about how I should put them whole into rice, simmer, then remove, to avoid being "bitten". Alas, it's the bite that I'm addicted to! Tue May 26 17:52:51 -0700 2009 4710883 65478 davis_sq_pro 1 4719127 Thanks all. I ended up getting what they call scotch bonnets at Russo's but they may use habeneros and scotch bonnets interchangeably. I have never made jerk marinade before but I used about 12 chiles w/o the seeds and it is incredibly HOT...hopefully when I marinate something the heat will extinguish a bit otherwise I might need and extinguisher! Wed May 27 11:19:41 -0700 2009 4710883 110819 bakerboyz 2 4719139 Sounds scovillianly delicious! Wed May 27 11:23:40 -0700 2009 4719127 99422 Small Plates 2 4719269 Depends on the quantity you are making but that sounds hot! Especially in a marinade. I make hab jelly and use 12-15 per batch (sometimes more) and it's just right. Sugar tones it down, as does cooking. Wed May 27 12:00:56 -0700 2009 4719127 43893 C. Hamster 3 4719286 I used a recipe from the BBQ Bible which called for 4-12 chiles, which made about 1 QT. which should be enough for 4 lbs of meat or so the recipe says. Good thing I left out the seeds!! I will report back after I actually use it. Wed May 27 12:05:07 -0700 2009 4719269 110819 bakerboyz 2 4719316 I use fresh Jalapenos and a scotch bonnet or two in my jerk rub. Wed May 27 12:15:58 -0700 2009 4719127 10169 StriperGuy