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bleen68 May 23, 2009 05:11 PM

The first weekend in June we will be spending a three day weekend in downtown Dallas. We are staying at the Westin downtown. I know that Stephan Pyles is around the corner, what else good is in walking distance? I recall a restaurant that was below street level in a garden patio that looked nice somewhere around the Art Museum. Can anyone identify it from this description? I think we will have lunch Friday or Saturday at the Zodiac Room in Nieman Marcus. We will have a car and will drive if there is something special but would rather walk, take the street car or that historic Trolly.

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    fixer RE: bleen68 May 26, 2009 09:46 AM

    Dakota's is the place below street level. Check out Charlie Palmer's a the joule hotel instead of Dakota's, they have a better lunch. Fearings is at the Ritz and you can take the trolly close to there from the Art Museum.

    1. air RE: bleen68 May 26, 2009 10:14 AM

      If it's the weekend of June 5, Nana is a short drive away and they'll have their Friday Night Flight wine/food tasting going on.

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        pizzaQTpie RE: bleen68 May 26, 2009 02:15 PM

        Seriously be careful walking at night in downtown Dallas. Downtown is pretty deserted at night with the exception of main street when the club kids come out.

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          sl1 RE: pizzaQTpie May 29, 2009 02:14 PM

          Thanks for scaring them away from downtown. There are always police patroling and every street has lights on it. I think they will be ok going downtown at night.

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            DallasDude RE: sl1 May 31, 2009 01:09 AM

            Downtown is perfectly safe. I could walk through the center of town with 20's strapped to my chest and be fine.

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              twinwillow RE: DallasDude May 31, 2009 08:09 AM

              Dude ~ I wouldn't say that so quickly. We attended a memorial service at First Presbyterian Church yesterday (Saturday). We left the church about 3:30 and drove around town for a while before going to Twisted Root. We were both shocked at the drunks, druggie types and general weirdo's "hanging out" downtown. And, this wasn't at night. I'm originally from NYC so, I don't shock so easily but, I'll tell you, I wouldn't go anywhere downtown unless it was to a big restaurant (Stephen Pyle's) with valet parking.

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                DallasDude RE: twinwillow May 31, 2009 11:39 AM

                Are we talking Deep Ellum or Downtown proper. I know by any courthouse in American its not a good scene (you would think these types would hightail it as far away after getting released) but pretty much downtown I wouldnt have a problem with. Well I really have no problem with Deep Ellum either, but I can consort well with any social class well, but I can understand the apprehension. Families have no business in Deep Ellum after dark, sad to say.

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                  twinwillow RE: DallasDude May 31, 2009 11:56 AM

                  I'm talking about downtown Dallas. Deep Ellum is another story altogether.

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                    CocoaNut RE: DallasDude May 31, 2009 12:35 PM

                    Anytime someone is in unfamiliar territory, they'd be crazy not to be particularly careful their surroundings, especially during evening hours when all types of unsortlies are more likely to venture out. And if you choose not to take caution, well...... that's your choice. But I'd never chastise anyone for providing input to that end. And truth be told, while downtown Dallas "proper" is trying and making a few strides in the right direction, it is not exactly a popping/hopping place to be out side of 9 - 5, M - F.

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                      bleen68 RE: CocoaNut May 31, 2009 05:39 PM

                      Thanks we will be careful. A few years ago I was at a convention and walked over to catch the historic trolley out to that nice neighborhood and didn't see anything threatening. I also walked down to the American Center for an NBA playoff game, but off course the street was full of people for that.

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                        BluffViewChound RE: bleen68 May 31, 2009 06:16 PM

                        Main Street is bustling with people at night (especially on the weekends). I would feel very comfortable walking in that area at anytime.

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                    jmellby RE: twinwillow Jun 1, 2009 07:47 AM

                    This weekend A-Kon was held in downtown Dallas.
                    They probably were not drunks, merely Otaku.

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                      tiramasue RE: twinwillow Jun 1, 2009 03:13 PM

                      Those 'weirdos' from this wknd were just Akon kids playing dress up.

                      I live downtown and often take walks with my husband, even at night! We may have a couple of gin and tonics sometimes too, but I wouldn't label us 'drunks' but to each his own

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                      mahalan RE: DallasDude Jun 1, 2009 09:43 AM

                      Gotta agree. I've been many places both downtown and in deep ellum late at night (going to and leaving clubs). I've never felt threatened.

                      Anyplace can be dangerous if one's unlucky enough to wander near the wrong person at the wrong time.

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                  Sarah McColl RE: bleen68 Jul 18, 2009 11:18 PM

                  Back to the OP question...any other recommendations for restaurants within walking distance downtown? I have lots of out of town guests staying downtown in a few months and would love to be able to point them in a few directions. Thanks in advance!

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                    sl1 RE: Sarah McColl Jul 20, 2009 08:24 AM

                    Charlie Palmer, Zodiac Room, Campisis, Dakota's, Five-Sixty.
                    Check out guidelive.com for more.

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