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melsy May 23, 2009 03:27 AM

Other than the obvious crudite, olives , chips and dips etc??? Wanted to do something a bit more Thai in feel. Everyone is Kosher except us, but were doing it for them!!

The rest of the meal is this :

Crispy chicken salad
Thai fish cakes
sweet sour cucumber relish

Red thai curry (beef)
Stir fry chicken
French beans
Sticky rice

Coconut ice cream
Chocolate tarte with strawberries (not very thai at all, but yum from wholefoods!!!)

Not sure if this is the section to post this is in?

Thank you in advance for ideas.

  1. linguafood May 23, 2009 04:31 AM

    Well, not Thai per se, but if you want to stay "Asian"-themed in the broadest sense of the term, how about wasabi nuts? Or sesame crackers?

    Btw, your dinner sounds lovely!

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    1. re: linguafood
      melsy May 23, 2009 04:41 AM

      ahhh now I did see wasabi nuts at Wholefoods yesterday , but husband made a face!

      oooh I forgot I bought some rice cracker , really big ones! Although I suppose its more Japanese.

      Lets say my meals asian influence as you say! Its really hard as there arent any really authentic nibbles. None Ive had anyway in Thailand that I can remember.

      Will save some for you!!!

    2. alkapal May 23, 2009 05:55 AM

      melsy, look at this lovely little appetizer (ma haw, or thai minced pork and shrimp relish -- on pineapple bites), from the rasa malaysia website (i discovered this via going to foodgawker.com and then searching for "thai"): http://rasamalaysia.com/ma-haw-thai-m...

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      1. re: alkapal
        melsy May 23, 2009 06:15 AM

        oh my they look delish alkapal, alas I cant serve for these friends due to them being kosher , but have saved them for another time.

        Wil definately have a look at foodgawker too.

        1. re: melsy
          alkapal May 23, 2009 06:43 AM

          sorry about missing the "kosher" detail in your post. what about a beef satay with a spicy peanut dipping sauce? or how about some portabello mushrooms chopped and substituted in that appetizer recipe? or minced marinated tofu, which has been grilled?

          edit: here is a thread on beef satay. frankly, i'd go for hannaone's korean fusion recipe for ribbon beef strips. yummy! http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/420299

          1. re: alkapal
            melsy May 23, 2009 07:10 AM

            Thank you care11 and alkapal, we've now re jigged the menu as follows , as we had bought all the kosher ingredients yesterday. So we re adapted what were using them for .

            The thighs bought for the chicken stri fry are now for the satay & have been deboned & skinned and cut into mouth size pieces and are marinating in fridge with peanut sauce for our metal skewers later. Shhhhh don't tell, it was a jar of something we had already. Were cheating a bit today!
            Thai fish cakes now sitting in fridge setting ready to be fried later
            Instead of minced chicken salad , its now just a green papaya salad
            The rest of the menu is the same, except the chicken stir fry dish will be with mince and not pieces of chicken. Quite authentic think.

            I haven't got pineapple , but Ive got a watermelon and am having a think how I could cube that with something yummy and savoury to dollop on top as something unusual. Were trying not to go out to the supermarket now so we can continue preparing , as I have 2 little girls to prepare for baths and bed in 2hrs also!!

            It doesn't really matter about authenticism as such, just that we get the flavours more as they should be for each certain dish. Its a trip around Japan, Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand!!

            Not sure I can post about it after with all our cheating! I will put it on my blog eventually also!

            1. re: melsy
              alkapal May 23, 2009 07:55 AM

              there is a great watermelon thread, and i'll find it for you. it would definitely have plenty of ideas for you.

              edit: here http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/539218
              also: http://www.watermelon.org/recipeAppet...

              idea: what about a watermelon - mint "gazpacho" shooter? <with a little chile in it, too -- maybe some rice wine vinegar or -- better-- lime juice!>

              1. re: alkapal
                melsy May 23, 2009 08:14 AM

                Now that is a FAB idea alkapal. Wondering if Ive got long enough to puree and then re seive and let it drip through for more concentrated flavour.

                1. re: melsy
                  alkapal May 23, 2009 08:22 AM

                  puree ahead of time, put in a sieve, and let 'er drip! (in the fridge.)

                  1. re: alkapal
                    melsy May 23, 2009 08:39 AM

                    husband not impressed with this for our guests as he doesn't think they will appreciate it!I I know one of the guests (husbands old University friend), is a bit of a jock, hes the kind to make a snidey joke !

                    Will save it for my more refined palates!

                    I am however dying to try and make it!

          2. re: melsy
            sbp Jul 2, 2009 06:15 PM

            Sorry for the late reply, but I happened across this post just recently. The ma haw DO look amazing, and you can pretty much "kosherize" the recipe. I've found you can readily substitute ground veal for ground pork. For the shrimp, mince any firm fleshed white fish (not as close a match as ground veal for ground pork, but it's not the primary flavor of the recipe).

          3. re: alkapal
            care11 May 23, 2009 06:15 AM

            Again...maybe not totally authentic but what about some kind of satay skewers? Great this time of year and usually a crowd pleaser. (Aparaugus ones might be good if you don't want to use meat in your appetizer)

            1. re: alkapal
              chef chicklet Jun 21, 2009 05:56 PM

              NOW that is a new one to me! How beautiful and delicious that looks.

            2. c
              chilibaby May 23, 2009 07:21 AM

              Miang Kam is a terrific appetizer and you could adapt the ingredients to be kosher or to suit what you have on hand:
              Many fruits (tropical ones, melons, apples etc) are delicious tossed in fresh lime juice with a little salt and dried chili flakes (or something similar). Not exactly Thai but same flavor profile.

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              1. re: chilibaby
                alkapal May 23, 2009 08:02 AM

                chilibaby, that looks good, but has the typical dried shrimp!

                note, the papaya salad usually has dried shrimp, too. are you just leaving that out, melsy?

                1. re: alkapal
                  melsy May 23, 2009 08:12 AM

                  Definitely leaving it out! Just adding some more saltyness -Nam pla- to make up for it.

                  1. re: melsy
                    alkapal May 23, 2009 08:21 AM

                    maybe don't add more nam pla, but a little mashed anchovy, to get more depth, without all the extra sodium.

                    1. re: alkapal
                      melsy May 23, 2009 08:39 AM

                      Now why didnt I think of that!!! Good tip & sub.

                      1. re: melsy
                        alkapal May 23, 2009 10:46 AM

                        i also thought of sri lankan "maldive fish" if it is available. i'm not sure, but miso may also give a similar "umami".

                  2. re: alkapal
                    chilibaby May 23, 2009 10:22 AM

                    By "adapt" to make it kosher, I meant leaving out the shrimp. It wouldn't really be any problem for the miang kam itself (we've made it even when out of shrimp). For the sauce, it would just be a matter of making up for the saltiness. I believe there are alternate miang kam dipping sauces that do not have shrimp in them.

                    1. re: chilibaby
                      alkapal May 24, 2009 01:40 AM

                      gotcha! i'd like to make that dish!

                  3. re: chilibaby
                    c oliver Jun 21, 2009 03:22 PM

                    I'd come across that site for the Miang Kam. I want to fix it; have you? Did you like the sauce?

                    1. re: c oliver
                      chilibaby Jun 22, 2009 05:48 AM

                      Just made it again recently. Lots of strong flavors all in one bite - delicious! The sauce is great but a little does go a long way.

                  4. Sam Fujisaka May 23, 2009 08:44 AM

                    Your meal sounds perfect as is; and Thai melas don't start with nibbles anyway.

                    1. c
                      Cinnamon May 23, 2009 09:58 AM

                      If your guests don't have delicate tummies, a shredded green papaya salad (tom sum) would be tasty as part of that meal.

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                      1. re: Cinnamon
                        alkapal May 23, 2009 10:47 AM

                        melsy added a som tum in her re-jig.

                        1. re: alkapal
                          Cinnamon May 23, 2009 11:11 AM

                          Oh ya, cool. Missed that.

                      2. MplsM ary May 23, 2009 10:45 PM

                        Spicy Cashews - always a hit: http://www.simply-thai.com/thai-food-...

                        I hate to be nosy but the ice cream is non-dairy, right?

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                        1. re: MplsM ary
                          alkapal May 24, 2009 01:32 AM

                          haagen-dazs coconut sorbet is kosher?: http://www.kosher.com/store/kosher-frozen-grocery/frozen-ice-cream-and-desserts/dairy-frozen-dessert/074570651085-haagen-dazs-coconut-sorbet.html

                          also, their "tropical" flavor (which i'd love to try): http://www.kosher.com/store/kosher-fr...

                          BUT, i think i may be misinterpreting "kosher" in this instance. even if it is "kosher" on its own, it might not be "kosher" in the same meal with meat (IF the sorbet contains dairy), right?

                          being even nosier, though, wouldn't the chocolate tart be non-kosher because it contains dairy in preparation of the chocolate (perhaps)?

                          1. re: alkapal
                            melsy May 24, 2009 04:00 PM

                            Lol I dont mind the nosey , I am after all a fallen jewess, who has never been kosher , but come from a family who started that way 2 generations back!! It was a kosher non dairy coconut ice cream.

                            and you are right we did have a chocolate torte with cream in , but our guests have said in the past that they are ok with eating dairy after ,despite wanting kosher meat! We took the chance but also had some fruit on hand to go with the ice cream if thats what they wanted to finish with.

                            Thank you all for your ideas, the meal went down fantastically well and almost all of it went! I was sad to not be able to have some more the next day, but they couldnt get enough of the satay , fish cakes & Som Tum, (my all time fave salad). There was some left over curry, (as we made litres of it) , to have for dinner this evening.

                            When I get a chance , I'll upload some pictures. Athough I was so hungry ,I forgot to shoot the starters!!

                            Those cashews look great MplsM ary, another idea saved for our next thai meal. Thank you.

                            1. re: melsy
                              alkapal May 24, 2009 04:06 PM

                              congratulations on your successful event. funny how your friends' keeping "kosher" is cafeteria-style. ("yeah, we're kosher on this, but not that.").

                              i, too, love som tum. i can drink the leftover dressing from the platter! how did you do the dressing? anchovy? extra nam pla?

                              also, did you use hannaone's "fusion" recipe for the "satay"?

                              1. re: alkapal
                                MplsM ary May 24, 2009 04:40 PM

                                I "get" the cafeteria approach. If I were a meat eater I'd only want to eat Halal or Kosher meat. As a vegetarian I turn a blind eye on really good cheese I know to contain animal rennet. Lots of people are very weird and oftentimes capricious about their own food customs - I know I am.

                                Melsy, I am glad to hear your dinner was a success. Congratulations.

                                1. re: MplsM ary
                                  alkapal May 24, 2009 05:05 PM

                                  mary, are you a closet baconarian? ;-).

                                  1. re: alkapal
                                    MplsM ary May 24, 2009 06:09 PM

                                    Nope. I am curious about BaconSalt though :)

                                    1. re: MplsM ary
                                      alkapal May 24, 2009 06:12 PM

                                      it's pretty good on avocado or eggs.

                        2. chef chicklet Jun 21, 2009 05:59 PM

                          At my favorite Thai restaurant I alwasy order the spicy pork with peanuts (like laarb) wrapped in iceberg lettuce. I make it at home using turkey. Delicious.
                          What about shrimp toasts? or basil and shrimp wedges. Or satay, using beef or chicken skewered on lemon grass with a dipping sauce?

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