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sukhothai - now nearly every day of the week

pinstripeprincess May 13, 2009 08:19 AM

my memory is shoddy so even after a conversation last evening i'm wavering if they're also open monday... but for safeties sake let's say:

tuesday - thursday: 11am - 9pm
friday & sat: 11am - 10pm

they're up and running with proper dishes and cutlery as well if you want to eat in. i love this place. it is my to go thai place now. with mengrai close by i'm not really tempted because of their higher price point though i do sometimes want a fish curry.... but this place was much more satisfying than the current linda (i don't know why they made the menu so mundane compared to before!). i just want to support it as they expand their hours to make sure they keep providing me great pad thai (lightly sweet, nice tang, chewy fresh noodles and mounds of chicken), yum!

sukhothaifood.com

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    embee May 13, 2009 08:30 AM

    Are the back to a full menu?

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      pinstripeprincess May 13, 2009 08:33 AM

      i don't know what is considered a full menu as i am a new fan and they've never told me that what i wanted was unavailable...

      should have added that i order off the laminated card at the front that seems to have a reasonable number of options. so far have seen them serve khao soi, pad thai, panang and daily curry without any issues. had also mentioned considering getting massaman and they did not discourage me to.

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        embee May 13, 2009 09:13 AM

        They originally had a relatively extensive menu (albeit not restaurant length). Everything was made a la minute, including the spice pastes - which was wonderful, but still ridiculous (and extremely slow). There was no obvious mise en place - she chopped all the veggies and sliced the proteins to order.

        They also had specials and some interesting desserts, and they expressed a willingness to cook virtually any Thai dish, whether on the menu or not.

        Then they cut down the menu to three daily curries - made once a day - and a few fast food items.

        I'm wondering what I'll find next time I go.

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          pinstripeprincess May 13, 2009 10:25 AM

          curious.. i would have liked to have seen what they were beforehand then.

          there is definitely a new cook in the kitchen along with the female owner and items are certainly prepped beforehand now. in fact, there was panang (and only one daily curry i might as well also mention) sitting in the steam tray when i showed up. she claimed that with dishes like panang they only improved with time and was actually reluctant to cook us a chicken panang fresh because of this supposed better melding of flavour.

          i forgot to get a dessert this time... i got a sample the last time and it was quite delicious.

          it sounds like they're running on a shorter menu but you've made me want to query them about what else they can/can't do.

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            estufarian May 13, 2009 10:32 AM

            In order to cope they (recently) used a steam table for about 6 dishes (theoretically held 8 but not always full).
            My recommendation is to order items NOT in the steam table.
            And this is where to get 'street food' - as long as it's not in the steam table!

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              peppermint pate May 13, 2009 12:03 PM

              Hi estufarian - does this mean you finally tried Sukhothai? Thoughts?

              Off the steam table, I've had the green curry chicken a couple of times and it has always been very, very good. Everything else has been prepped from scratch.

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                estufarian May 13, 2009 01:03 PM

                Of course - within a couple of days of your recommendation. And one return trip.

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                  aser May 13, 2009 01:47 PM

                  I wouldn't discourage people from trying the curries in the steam table. They've been very good, exactly the same as I've had in the past when they've done the full menu.

                  Again, as I mentioned in the other thread. Even if the menu is chopped down, they'll still cook the dishes from the old menu if you request it. If anyone is interested, I'll scan in the old menu later today for comparison sakes.

                  GO, I can't say this enough.

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                    pinkprimp May 13, 2009 02:11 PM

                    Yes, please scan it!! I would love to see it.

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                      aser May 13, 2009 02:25 PM

                      http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b27...

                      Keep in mind this is the OLD menu, the prices are slightly higher now to account for rising food cost/inflation.

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                        pinkprimp May 13, 2009 08:23 PM

                        Thank you so much! :-))

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                      pinstripeprincess May 13, 2009 02:21 PM

                      scan old menu please! i seem to crave thai street food in the summer a lot...

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            Degustation May 13, 2009 10:37 AM

            I also ordered off the laminated menu last Fri. for takeout: spring rolls, tom yum gai, green curry chicken, Sukhothai pad thai, and massaman beef.

            The tom yum gai and massaman beef were the best items. Massaman beef had a very complex layering of flavours with lucious, juicy chunks of beef. The curry chicken was the most disappointing - the flavour was a bit weak and I wondered if it was because it had collected water from the warming trays.

            I indicated I would be back in an hour to pick up the order and everything was ready when I came back. She had two other people in the kitchen helping her that day. Very sweet owner - also slipped me a cassava cake.

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              peppermint pate May 13, 2009 12:00 PM

              I also tried one of the cassava cakes with tapioca and coconut milk the other day -oh wow - so good.

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                foodyDudey May 13, 2009 02:21 PM

                I ordered some items for takeout on Friday also. One soup item that I forget the name of was good, but I was not excited by the Sukhothai pad thai (mainly noodles and nothing else) and the mango and carrot salad was so limp I figured they had made it 3 days previous. Did anyone notice that the foam take-out containers were getting distorted and the foam changed consistency due to the heat? I was worried by the look of the inside of the container that had the soup I ordered, it appeared to have reacted with the oil and heat and the foam had become very hard. This can't be good. I may try it again since everyone is raving about it, but I don't see what the big deal is.

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                  Full tummy May 13, 2009 02:26 PM

                  Did they microwave things in the styrofoam? That is the only time I have seen styrofoam become hard and discoloured...

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                    foodyDudey May 13, 2009 02:31 PM

                    I didn't see that happening and doubt they did, I think the liquid was just very hot when they poured it in. The oils in the food has bonded to the foam in the container. I only saw this after we ate the soup... otherwise would not have consumed it.

                    Mrs foodyDudey waited in the car while I went to pick it up and said it was a very interesting wait... the people watching is different in this part of town.

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                      Full tummy May 13, 2009 02:41 PM

                      Wow!!! It must have really been super hot, as in all my time ordering take-out, I have never experienced that...

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                        aser May 13, 2009 02:49 PM

                        Perhaps ask them to poke a few holes to allow steam to escape.

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              pastina May 16, 2009 02:58 PM

              I work next door to them and have been eating there since the day they opened. I phone in my order from the "old menu" in my desk and haven't been refused anything as of yet.

              Their plan is to open up more dining space on the second floor of the building. I was discussing it with the owners last week. They don't expect to have that completed for another year, though.

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              peppermint pate May 13, 2009 08:47 AM

              Pretty sure it's Monday too. Have already sung their praises a million times on this board but at the risk of repeating myself, let me say once again - best Thai food in the city (and the loveliest owners to boot). Glad to hear they have real dishes and cutlery now - I was there last week-end and they didn't have either.

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              1. re: peppermint pate
                pinstripeprincess May 13, 2009 10:27 AM

                this place was on my radar thanks to people like you but usually i consider parliament out of my usual zone... now i'm thinking of all the permutations on my routes around the city that would get me here. thank god for biking weather!

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                  peppermint pate May 13, 2009 12:02 PM

                  I hear you - I use up most of the little spare time I have in my life these days to criss-cross this city in search of great food and coffee. I've been to Parliament and Dundas more times in the last few months than I probably have in the last decade. But I guess that's why we're all here on this board.

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                    deabot May 13, 2009 05:57 PM

                    yes it's mondays to saturdays-closed on sunday only. I'm quite excited, I don't have to worry about coming in on busy weekends to get my fix. pinstripe-the pad thai is just heaven isn't it!

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                      foodyDudey May 13, 2009 09:08 PM

                      I'm starting to wonder what they served me as the pad thai Sukhothai I had was definitely not heaven. I should have taken a picture to post here. All it had were 3 or 4 shrimp and some brownish noodles. I could not see any other ingredients such as bean sprouts, green onion etc. There was barely even any tamarind flavour. It was very disappointing. Is my explanation an accurate description of that dish? I find it hard to believe that I got two very mediocre dishes from them when everyone here is talking about how great this place is.

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                        Connoisseur May 14, 2009 06:01 AM

                        Great!!! Now I just have to figure out how to get my other to adventure into the Parliament and Dundas area lol

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                          pinstripeprincess May 14, 2009 06:25 AM

                          it's the best pad thai i've had in the city thus far.... so the only thing that i can surmise is perhaps that the other cook was in the kitchen? i'd be surprised considering it was a friday night (right?) that you said you went and i would expect that the main chef would work the busiest nights.

                          i can describe my pad thai as a good though not huge portion. it is mostly noodles (the noodle quality is far and above many other places) but there are definitely strands of beansprouts weaved throughout that i could probably get one per bite and less green onion than that but enough. abundance of the fried bits of tofu and chicken... my quantity conscious co-diner went so far as to say there was a lot of chicken and when we ordered the shrimp version i believe i had at least 5 though i don't think they also mix in chicken for that one. there's a photo on a blackberry somewhere that shows what i had recently i can try to get that uploaded.

                          i earnestly don't know how i could go to this place and not order it a la deabot.

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                            pinstripeprincess May 14, 2009 06:49 AM

                            photo....... i really need to carry my proper camera around more.

                            btw, i don't doubt your experience foodydudey. there is no doubt that i've had anomaly situations in favourite restaurants of others, but i figured why not show what i consider normal at this place.

                            darn... i didn't save the rotation.

                             
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                              foodyDudey May 14, 2009 07:01 AM

                              Thanks for posting the photo pp, as my pad thai looked nothing like that. I should have taken a picture also but was so disapointed after reading about the place here that I guess I was just in shock as I was eating it.

                              I didn't mentioned it earlier, but the noodles weren't even soft, they had hardenned up a bit. Overall, it was a bad experince and I'm not in a rush to drive all the way there again. Has anyone had that exptremely limp mango/carrot salad? It didn't have much flavour in it, and not even any coriander in it, which most have. And yes the owner's wife was in the kitchen along with about 4 other people. I recognised her from a write-up I read. I wish I took pictures to show you what I paid for.

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                                pinstripeprincess May 14, 2009 07:07 AM

                                that sounds truly terrible... i wouldn't blame you for not bothering either.

                                i actually didn't notice much coriander at all in my dish which i was a little surprised by but was fine with because i was happy for chewy soft noodles. hard ones would be awful!

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                                  buttertartz May 14, 2009 05:51 PM

                                  If you order the regular pad thai, you will get what foodydudey describes - a brown mass of noodles and basically nothing else.

                                  Now if you order the Sukhothai pad thai (I think it's an extra $1 or $2) you will get what pinstripeprincess describes.

                                  Now if you bring a personal pic from Thailand for their wall, you'll get a free pad thai - not sure the freebie is the regular or special version!

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                                    foodyDudey May 14, 2009 07:47 PM

                                    I guess they served me the wrong item, as I ordered the Sukothai pad thai. It was extremely boring. If any of you were served what I picked up last Friday, I think you would be very disappointed. I don't know what they were thinking by serving me the 3 day old salad. SInce it was take-out, I didn't look at it before I left the restaurant. Seem's like I got the sucker's thai special dinner. :-(

                        2. re: pinstripeprincess
                          Googs May 14, 2009 07:17 AM

                          pinstripeprincess, so long as you're on my turf I'm happy to give some tips on other food stops along or close to Parliament. All of them are near Carlton, but seeing as you've come this far what's another bicycle lock-up?

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                            pinstripeprincess May 14, 2009 07:25 AM

                            would love more suggestions... not sure if it's worth another thread or if you'd want to email me instead.

                            you know what kills me? last summer i was actually stalking this exact strip of parliament between queen and dundas. when it was a quiet day we'd roll on past to check out what was going on.... we figured that some potential had to be locked up in there but even going storefront to storefront i didn't really find much and sometimes it seemed like no one was ever cooking. one year later and now i'm behind the times!

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                              domesticgodess May 14, 2009 08:37 AM

                              well we decided to check it out last nite and we loved it....we loved the atmosphere, we loved the food (very important), and we loved the service.
                              The decor is really "fitting"...chairs/tables, bamboo accents etc, the bulletin board posting reviews etc.
                              We ate a pad thai and another dish (that I cant spell), tapioca/coconut pudding and spring rolls. Everything was delish.
                              The couple that own the restaurant were charming and very helpful.
                              Clearly they are still working on some kinks..i.e no paper napkins on the table.
                              but the plates that they selected are beautiful and we were impressed.
                              For sure, we will be returning!!

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                                Googs May 16, 2009 10:46 AM

                                Oh another Cabbagtown thread is always worthwhile in my opinion. Coming up.

                        3. hippotatomus May 14, 2009 04:11 PM

                          How is the fried fish y'all? Seeing the menu is so small and it is one of the items - I'm hoping it is very good...

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                            childofthestorm May 15, 2009 09:38 AM

                            Finally got to try Sukhothai last night - we have a new leader of the pack in Toronto for sure. I've traveled through Thailand on two separate occasions, and while I'm not an expert in the cuisine, I know the real deal when I taste it. This is the real deal, and surpasses my previous favourites in the city Mengrai, Thai2Go, and Linda's (the old spot, and for more of a "fusion" experience).

                            The Sukhothai pad thai, which I ordered with chicken and shrimp, was the perfect balance between sweet, tart, and spicy. It even had that slightly toasted texture, which I suppose might be akin to Chinese "wok hay," that one gets from the best pad thais served by street vendors in Bangkok. The noodles had that perfect chewiness that is so hard to find in this city.

                            I also had to try the khao soi noodles given that the chef is from the north, and they instantly transported me back to Chiang Mai. The takeout order was thoughtfully packed with noodles, curry, and crackers all in their own containers, and when I mixed it up at home I knew it was going to be good. I ordered everything "Thai spicy" and this dish was killer, with not an overwhelming heat but rather a slow, layered burn that did not overwhelm the complexities of the curry. The beef was braised to a buttery texture, the noodles impossibly long and again with a great chew to them, and really my only complaint was that there was not enough beef.

                            So I'm going to go back every week for more, and definitely sit down for some of the fried items that I'm curious about. The menu is fairly limited, and I think they may need to expand it as their business grows. But trust me - a random stranger on the internet - when I say this place is 100% authentic. Not only is it the same as the food one gets in Thailand, but it's like the GOOD food one gets in Thailand!

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                            1. re: childofthestorm
                              red dragon May 16, 2009 03:21 PM

                              We live in Scarborough, but will drive to give it a try! Since they're closed on Sunday's, we'll try to go during the week, since we're also on vacation.

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