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  <id>619418</id>
  <title>Hotel Bar with best ambiance in Vancouver</title>
  <published_at>Tue May 12 20:22:34 -0700 2009</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>57</id>
    <name>Western Canada</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>4678644</id>
        <content>I am on the lookout for a good hotel bar to hole up for a Martini...i am not looking for anything trendy, yaletown, etc

i am looking for sophisticated elegance, but not so exclusive that they throw me out.

what do you people think</content>
        <published_at>Tue May 12 20:22:34 -0700 2009</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>291904</id>
          <name>22justin</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4678904</id>
      <content>The Bacchus and Uva get my vote.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 00:01:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145820</id>
        <name>fmed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4678916</id>
      <content>locations</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 00:15:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678904</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145820</id>
        <name>fmed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4679432</id>
      <content>i'd second bacchus and add the Yew in the 4 seasons</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 07:23:59 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678904</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>74241</id>
        <name>pants</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4679806</id>
      <content>I like the piano bar at the Hotel Vancouver.
The Pan Pacific bar had a fabulous view although I haven't been there since the new convention centre was finished so I'm not sure if there is any impact.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 09:07:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13666</id>
        <name>islandgirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4680714</id>
      <content>Was just in Vancouver last week and stayed at Four Seasons. I will second thesuggestion for Yew. Very nice lounge.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 12:58:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>113167</id>
        <name>djdragan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4680782</id>
      <content>Diva at the Met</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 13:12:21 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58840</id>
        <name>smel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4681177</id>
      <content>Bacchus gets my vote too. Very nice!</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 14:51:01 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4680782</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>290732</id>
        <name>moltmonster</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4682041</id>
      <content>I should have added....which bar is open latest?? I think Bacchus closes relatively early or no? I would assume the hotel bars would stay open until later...</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 13 19:39:28 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>291904</id>
        <name>22justin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4683818</id>
      <content>I would give Bacchus a nod too! but I actually prefer Gerard in the Sutton Place Hotel.</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 14 11:42:50 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>117133</id>
        <name>hrhsheba</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4687115</id>
      <content>The top 3 choices that I favour are:
1) Yew at the Four Seasons - impeccable service, saddle up at the bar.
2) Bacchus - Wedgewood Hotel
3) Hotel Vancouver

None of these bars will throw you out for dressing casually. Yew at the Four Seasons may be esthetically trendy-ish, but it is still a classic Four Seasons and comes with the same level of service, quality etc you'd accept from their other properties. Bacchus might be a bit much for you at Happy Hour as it's packed with the afterwork office types, so I'd avoid 4-6 if you'd prefer some quiet.</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 15 11:34:42 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>130233</id>
        <name>sf toronto</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4688354</id>
      <content>thank you sir</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 15 19:36:20 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4687115</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>291904</id>
        <name>22justin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4705292</id>
      <content>I find the quality of the drinks at Hotel Vancouver inconsistent, depending on the bartender. My friend that manages the front desk operations there agrees. </content>
      <published_at>Thu May 21 19:23:35 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4687115</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58840</id>
        <name>smel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4689996</id>
      <content>Certainly Bacchus is worth considering. This year, for the tenth consecutive year Bacchus at the Wedgewood has been recognized as the best Bar and Lounge on Vancouver by the Vancouver Magazine Restaurant Awards. Here&#8217;s what they had to say: &#8220;The city&#8217;s posh lounge scene has always been vibrant, but recessionistas are making these economical alternatives to fine dining all the more popular. This year&#8217;s list is topped by Bacchus Piano Lounge at the Wedgewood Hotel (Gold), where a good pour of scotch and a supple leather wingback can take you to a place where markets don&#8217;t crash. &#8220;This,&#8221; summed up one judge, &#8220;is where grownups go to play.&#8221;</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 16 15:16:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>268949</id>
        <name>BCD&#233;brouillard</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4717548</id>
      <content>Just got back from a week vacation in Vancouver and we used the Vancouver guide list as our go-to guide. Bacchus is worth checking out, but it's a much older crowd. I'd say if you are 40 and over, you might enjoy it. 

Somene mentioned Uva, it's way too trendy for what you might be looking for. Check out their website. </content>
      <published_at>Tue May 26 21:38:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4689996</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>286146</id>
        <name>HamiltonLake</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4728663</id>
      <content>Heehee, I'm 29 and I've been going there for a few years.  But I have heard it said that I am an "old soul".</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 30 17:27:40 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4717548</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88113</id>
        <name>victoriafoodie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4691986</id>
      <content>After a long day at court in Vancouver, I love the gin martinis at Bacchus (well, i did love them until about 7 months ago, and I'll love them again as soon as the baby weans).  They're tres cher, but so delicious.  Love the ambience - excellent comfy chairs, piano player, great service.  And the doormen are the best in town at getting you a cab during rush hour.</content>
      <published_at>Sun May 17 14:48:17 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>88113</id>
        <name>victoriafoodie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4712185</id>
      <content>Bacchus is a really nice room and a great place to drink a beer.  When I was there the bartender didn't know how to make an old fashioned or a sazerac.  I don't know anywhere for great classic cocktails in Vancouver- there's lots of fennel seed and apple sauce drinks and cinnamon, crab juice and grape extraction type drinks- but not any place I've been to that can make the classics well.  I have a feeling the Hotel Vancouver lounge might have a good bartender, but I haven't tried it yet.   </content>
      <published_at>Mon May 25 00:21:28 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4691986</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>201067</id>
        <name>Mawson Plan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4712472</id>
      <content>Not all at hotel bars...David Wolowidnyk (West), Jay Jones (Voya), Mark Brand (The Diamond), Josh Pape (The Diamond) and Steve De La Cruz (Corner Suite Bistro) all know the classics. Try these guys....(The Diamond and Corner Suite are not yet open)

The Diamond looks interesting - four great bartenders will be running the bar...Two VanMag Bartenders of the Year - Mark Brand, Josh Pape (who also won Silver at Giffard); Sophie Taverner (The Cascade) and Charles Ainsbury (who won Australian Bartender of the Year). It will be a bartending school in the day and a lounge/bar/restaurant at night. (They are serving Asian tapas - something I think is a bit overdone in this town...let's see how that goes.)</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 25 06:47:57 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4712185</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145820</id>
        <name>fmed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4713597</id>
      <content>I agree with Mawson and Fmed. I would add the following into "bartenders who know what they're doing":

Nick Devine - Cascade Room
JT - Market </content>
      <published_at>Mon May 25 15:23:15 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4712472</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127190</id>
        <name>Cancuk</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4713654</id>
      <content>Ah yes! ND and JT for sure.</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 25 15:51:12 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4713597</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145820</id>
        <name>fmed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4800796</id>
      <content>fmed; do u know if The Diamond is open yet? I've heard rumours but haven't had the chance to take a walk down there to confirm. Anyone?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 00:17:37 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4712472</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>83353</id>
        <name>aussiewonder</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>4800802</id>
      <content>It's open. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 24 00:19:02 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4800796</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127190</id>
        <name>Cancuk</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4705295</id>
      <content>I agree with fmed with UVA winebar. It's kind of small and impossible on a weekend but it's very chillin on a week night. Comfy chairs, good wine, no stress.</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 21 19:24:22 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4678644</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>58840</id>
        <name>smel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4717552</id>
      <content>No trip to Uva is complete without trying the bone marrow salad. It's a famous dish created by the chef at St. John's restaurant in London. I didn't know that anyone across the pond was making it so it was a bonus. I'll be back again for the salad the next time I'm in Vancouver.
</content>
      <published_at>Tue May 26 21:42:45 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4705295</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>286146</id>
        <name>HamiltonLake</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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