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Chowhounding in 600,000 B.C.

... or 4,000 B.C. depending on your leanings.

"The thing in the water with the sharp things is better than the flat slimy thing."

"You have to put it over that hot stuff first."

"No you don't. Luddite."

"How did those bitter weeds turn out?"

"I'm still alive, aren't I? But you can't put those in the hot stuff. They go away entirely."

"The weeds with the round things on them are better than the bushy weeds."

"No they're not. Luddite."

"I miss the liquid from those hard round things the size of your head. We need to develop better technology for opening them. Anyone got ideas?"

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  1. Pfft. Those weeds with the round things on them are SO overdone. And I just can't gather from that valley anymore since Gog put it in his cave painting.

    1. Rumor has it that up by the peninsula that there is an old man that eats a certain part of that puffy fish that normally kills you.

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      1. re: Popkin

        Yeah, but he's really good with that sharp rock thingy of his.

      2. And which flat slimey thing in the water are you grunting about? The one in the hard thing, or the flat slimey thing that swims by itself? The one in the hard thing is good without putting it in that hot stuff (I think the hot stuff is maybe the breath of a powerful something).

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        1. re: hungry_pangolin

          The flat slimy thing that swims by itself. (As previously mentioned, I'm impaired at opening hard things.)

          Picture attached.

        2. which cave shall we eat at tonight?
          how did you know that the ostrich egg would be better fried in hyena fat than boiled in water?
          wish I could get that honey without being almost stung to death
          those damn monkeys have been in our stores again
          take the kids hunting with you today, I gotta do the laundry in that croc infested river

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          1. re: smartie

            By the way, have you ever tried "croc"? I hear it's a lot like those fat things with feathers that don't go into the sky.

          2. MY SO makes the best malva and amarath hot dish. Adds a bit of ground tapir, bamboo rat and smartweeds (if in season) and I am in trance. Does anyone else out there rinse curlews before pickling?

            1. How many centuries before somebody makes a decent Bagel around here?

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              1. re: psb

                Now, THAT'S funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we send it to Mel Brooks?

                1. re: Midlife

                  >Can we send it to Mel Brooks?
                  if you do, ask him if he thought 600024 or 599992 was a better vintage.

                2. re: psb

                  yep and how long till we can send out for Chinese?

                  1. re: psb

                    I asked the seer. He said "wheel" will happen first.

                  2. I wonder if fish pee in it? Or worse.

                    Does anybody know where you can get non-organic milk?

                    I like those toadstools, but I can never remember what they taste like.

                    You get really sick of the traditional winter solstice mammoth after a few weeks. The roast, the curry, risotto, soup, sandwiches, stew. We give the head to the dog.

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                    1. re: Paulustrious

                      >non-organic milk< Just stop mixing it with the organs, which sounds disgusting - why is your milk purveyor selling it that way?

                      1. re: Paulustrious

                        i like the toadstools that give me *those* dreams.

                      2. I'm on that non-raw diet - it's all the rage.

                        Have you tried that new rockpool? It does great sashimi.

                        How many pebbles should I tip in an all-you-can-catch beach place?

                        1. I'm not going to give you the best bits of the running thing if you're just going to leave it in the hot stuff forever.

                          1. "I love my new snooze alarm clock. It gives me another half million years of quiet before I have to hear that drilling in the wall".

                            1. When is anyone gonna help me plow that damn field? There's peas that hafta get planted before the next full moon, y'all. I'm bushed already.

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                              1. re: Gio

                                Planted? Stick food in the ground? That's ridiculous. Better to just move to where more food is. I'm sticking with the heavy things that fall off the tall shady things, and those things from the big water that you pry open.

                                1. re: Cinnamon

                                  Well, I'm way ahead of my time, I know. But, I accidently dropped some of those round things in the ground after it rained last month. After a few moons and suns I noticed that little pointed stuff strarted to come up from the gound. I plucked a few off the stick holding them and tasted. It was funny in my mouth but I liked it. I didn't pick up all of them and those I left got taller. Then some round things, just like those I dropped appeared on the sticks. I picked a few and they tasted sweet. I took 2 heavy sticks from the tall shady things that are above us and made long deep marks in the ground and stuck some of the little round things in the hole and they keep coming up. Now I can't stop. I have so many little round things I don't know what to do with them. I'd like to use them to eat for the first meal after the moon, but maybe I can use them to barter for water at little h steve's cave and see what it's like to put them in water. Do you know anyone with the fire making thingy?

                                  Oh, I decided to call them Peas. I don't know why. I''m inventive like that.

                                  1. re: Gio

                                    Bummer. I was hoping these were the round things that we can mash up in a jar and forget about in the back of the cave until the juice makes us dizzy. We need more names for round things.

                                    1. re: Wahooty

                                      Ohhh... I don't think I've ever had dizzy making juice. Do you have a recipe?

                                      1. re: Gio

                                        Will get back to you when we invent a way to make words so we can see them. Which probably won't happen until we make more words.

                                        1. re: weezycom

                                          It's what I call this hollow rock I found. It's another round thing - see, we have too many of those. The space inside is pretty good for hiding things. And if I put a flat rock on top, it keeps the running things out of whatever I'm trying to keep. I don't want the running things stealing my dizzy juice...although it's pretty funny when they do. Makes a nice change of pace from watching the bright bits of the hot stuff all night.

                                          1. re: Wahooty

                                            When the running things drink the dizzy juice they're easier to catch. And when you eat them there's the faintest hint of dizzy juice in the flesh...

                                            1. re: alanbarnes

                                              I think this is what my cousin does. He calls it "marinating." He must hang out with Kaimuki's crazy uncle.

                                      2. re: Gio

                                        Very cool. But what are you gonna do now, drop more 'peas' in the ground and hope they come up again? And then do it again, and again? Sounds like a lot of work.

                                        Call me a Luddite (wait, we don't have those yet, do we?), but I prefer finding things and occasionally chasing things. Like those hard things in the big water that you have to pry open - they don't move very fast.

                                  2. if it moves, i'm grilling it.
                                    if it grows in the ground, i'm feeding it to mikey.
                                    if it ferments, i'm inviting sam, veggo, gio, hunt and a few others over to my cave for a metaphysical chat. rock and roll can't be far behind.

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                                    1. re: steve h.

                                      I'll come to your metaphysical chat if you make sure there's at least another female there who knows how to put a meal together, Oh, and lose the club.

                                      1. re: steve h.

                                        I'm working on a few little jingles for our hootenanny: "Rock around the sundial", "Come on baby light my fire", and "You are the wind beneath my pterodactyl".

                                        1. re: Veggo

                                          If you see Sam before I do tell him to bring that stick thing he has with the vines attached. You know, the thing that makes a sound. He can pull those vines whilst you sing. You're so talented.

                                          Oh, and I can't wait to tell him about the little creature with 4 legs and
                                          a long pointy tail. It has a kind of hairy body. I was wondering if Sam could think of some way to make it possible to eat..... I hate eating live things. I hope little h steve has a big grill thing he mentioned. BTW: What's a grill?

                                          1. re: Gio

                                            I just got a smoke signal back from little h steve that says he has a big "girl-thing". I don't understand what that means. I think there were some crosswinds.

                                            1. re: Veggo

                                              howdy cro-magnon wannabes!
                                              the little h steve cave/lounge is open late every thursday through sunday (what's a thursday, what's a sunday?).
                                              gio, my only "club" is the lounge. catgut rope in front. cave girls drink for free. cover is three clams. we'll evolve stuff as we go along.

                                      2. Your sister tasted like that nasty boar, not that nasty bird.

                                        1. I talked to some people at the next cave over; they have a great new thing. They call it "soup". Lots of work to make it though. Light the fire, heat the rocks, go for water, put the water and the hot rocks in the mammoth hide pouch over the fire, cut up the remains of last night's roasted haunch, add that to the pouch with some weeds (not the ones with the round things on them, but the dark spikey ones) and then wait till bubbles appear (not big ones, little ones). They said if we're going to do it right we need "bowls" though; anyone know what those are or how to make 'em?

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                                          1. re: mcsheridan

                                            Oh for somethings sake. Soup? Bowls? You mean holders carved out of hard stuff that holds stuff you can't hold in your hands? Is it hot? If it's hot I won't have any. I hate hot things and live things. Not that I've tried any mind you. But I just know I won't like it.

                                            Little h steve..... I do not know what a clam is. ...and it certainly won't cover me, I just know it even before I've seen it.. Is it one of those hard things in the big water that you have to pry open that don't move very fast like Cinnamon spoke about?
                                            If so.... I really prefer the big blue bugs with the claws and long tail. Can you arrange for those?

                                            Oh and Veggo mentioned a Big Girl Thing. I thought you had a big Grill thing. Which is it Big Boy?

                                            1. re: Gio

                                              The things from the big water that you have to pry open, that I especially like, are dark and sometimes have a small round thing inside that looks like the white disc in the dark sky.

                                              1. re: Gio

                                                Sounds great. I'll bring my turtle shell over so I can dip some soup out of the mammoth hide pouch

                                            2. Those pungent plants that grow from a fat bulb, left some by the fire last night (the young'in was playing rolling them around), and this morning they had such a nice sweet taste, almost like a fruit, went really well with the ptarmigan eggs.

                                              1. Picture Uhg and Gugh, roasting meat on sticks over the new fangled fire everyone is so hot about.
                                                Ugh tries to tear some meat off the stick but drops it immediately into the dirt.
                                                "Uhg !! Hot!!"
                                                Gugh sees this and looks around, spying some handy leaves growing pretty close. Grabs a hand full and using the leaves to handle the hot meat takes a bite of meat and leaves together.
                                                "Gugh!!! Good"
                                                And so went the birth of stuffed leaves.

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                                                1. Help!!! Advice needed ASAP.

                                                  I have a guest list of 300 and the rain gods are pissing on my fire pits. How do the rest of you cope with fire outages during such times?

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                                                  1. re: DockPotato

                                                    Move party to inside of "mountain" (land that looks like: ^) that has hole in top. There is usually an overhang and the hot stuff (fire sounds like a good thing to call it, why not) stays on all the time. Don't serve eggs though, because sometimes it smells a little like old ones there, and you wouldn't want anyone to think it was your food.

                                                    1. re: Cinnamon

                                                      Sorry, mountains are not an option. We're on the hind tit of hell where there are no mountains, just a flat expanse of nothing.

                                                      1. re: DockPotato

                                                        Advise migrating. (Always.)

                                                        By the way, sometimes those mountains just show up within a single moon, or two. Exciting to watch.

                                                    2. re: DockPotato

                                                      Raw is the way to go. Every time. Phooey on those rain gods. Except when I have just poked a few round things in the ground.

                                                      1. re: Gio

                                                        Do you remember back to 600,020 B.C.? Wow, what did we ever do without Chowhound? (By the way, what is B.C. again and why do we count backwards?)

                                                    3. My uncle wants to build a hut and inside make a pit for the hot red things that turn the pieces of running things black. He says he will collect shiny things from people who run past when he shoves the black pieces at them out the window. What the hell is a window? He offered me a franchise. He makes all these crazy words. I think he's a nut!

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                                                        1. re: Wahooty

                                                          I don't know, its another one of his crazy ideas i think. Now he is trying to find a way to make the tiny round holes in the wet stuff stay in the wet stuff. He says he will call it soda and shove it thru the window also. Even if it works, what will he do with all the shiny things he collects? Where does he get these crazy ideas?

                                                          1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                            I have found a bunch of clear, wet stuff where you can see yourself in it, but there are all these round holes coming up from the bottom and they stay in the water. If you move it, it kind of poofs. It tastes good and is bitey on the tongue. I am moving to a new cave next to it. There is another bunch of clear wet stuff nearby that is not quite hot. I like being by these two things. But I have to figure out how to best transport some of the colder bitey wet stuff to drink while lolling in the other bunch of wet stuff.

                                                            1. re: Cinnamon

                                                              i think you need one of wahooty's jar thingy's, or maybe weezycom can loan you a turtle shell. Now uncle wants to use crazy leaf to make something he calls an infusion and mix it with the round hole wet stuff. I tried it, but it was very bitter, and it looked like the big patch of wet stuff where the water doesn't move and those alligators live, except for the round holes escaping part. Where do they go? Auntie says he should use the crazy juice from the purple round things instead, but Uncle says he doesn't want to deal with the liquor commission. He's been drinking too much crazy leaf infusion and making up the craziest words. He says he needs rehab. I give up, I'm moving in next to Cinnamon where I can get the hot wet stuff and the holey wet stuff without having to find shiny stuff first. I'm just a little bit worried about that tall place nearby where it has the hot red stuff that comes out of the sides and top. A running thing went to look once and turned into a big black piece before it could run.

                                                              1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                That could be a problem. This is one of the reasons I advocate moving around and finding food, rather than putting food in the ground to wait for it to turn into more food. If the tall place with the red stuff acts up, just put the pebbles to the meadow and go.

                                                                (That said, all the food that comes from the ground here looks really good, and the ground is really black.)

                                                                1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                  A jar thingy would work (also helps keep the holes in your wet stuff longer). I can lend you mine, but I think it still has some dizzy juice in it - will it be okay if you mix it with the round holey wet stuff? That seems like it might be good for sipping in the warm wet stuff.

                                                                  UPDATE: My cousins, Frank and Ed, agree that this is, in fact, a very good idea. They would like to talk to your uncle about his "window." I suspect this may turn out to be a very bad idea once we get that whole "wheel" thing worked out.

                                                                  1. re: Wahooty

                                                                    I got a thought for you about this "round thing" whilst munching a slab of rhubarb pi. (The letter "e" is not with us). I'll shoot you a smoky signal about it. Our rock quarry holds our solution.

                                                        2. Should we have Fruity Pebbles or Cocoa Pebbles today??

                                                          This cave has 4 Michelin stars. It's also Zagat rated.

                                                          That Rachel Welch is some hot!!!


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                                                          1. re: Davwud

                                                            Hey, I just made a discovery

                                                            If you squeeze the big bulgy thing that's under the female big red animals with the horns that make the loud noise, its makes something like the white stuff that came out of my wife's bulges that she fed to the baby. This white stuff from the red beasts is in fact good to eat on its own (though uncle Gronk says it makes his insides feel like they are filling with bad demons) but if you roll it around in the stomach of one of the baby red things for a while, it gets all lumpy, and If found that if you take the lumps push them all together rub them down with the white stuff you get when you take water from the sea and let it go away in the sun and leave it in the back of the cave on the damp side for a few monts it turns into this funny smelling solid thing with blue lines in it, which even Uncle Gronk likes. If you put it on the dry side it turns into this hard yellow thing with no blue lines (at least none that go all the way in) which is good too and lasts a lot longer than the smelly one.

                                                            1. re: jumpingmonk

                                                              I don't even want to KNOW how you figured this out. You just go around squeezing animals and putting the stuff into parts of other animals, babies nonetheless? If you hadn't found something tasty, I'd call you a Neanderthal.

                                                              We do need more words for things - it takes too many words to make food this way.

                                                              1. re: Wahooty

                                                                I'm with Wahooty - I don't want to know how you discovered this, though I do respect the discovery... tentatively.

                                                                1. re: Wahooty

                                                                  Cousin Frong was just here with a new peice of information. Apprently if instead of putting the white sea stuff on dry you mix it with a bit of water again (or even better, some of that funny liquid we get when we leave the fruit juice out for a few suns the stuff that makes us silly when we drink it) it turns into a third sort of thing, a very soft thing with an outside sorta the color of those round sweet-sour things we get off the trees with the shiny leaves and the little white flowers (you know the ones that, when you cut them open look at bit like cousin Floog's new desing for a "not solid" wheel) and a really strong smell. Frong seems to love it, my wife on the other hand things it's horrible (she says it smells like my inner thigh when I've gone a few weeks without going to sit in the river and rub myself with a bunch of those rough scrubby plants (NOTE From the 21st century editor "horsetails")

                                                                  Speaking of stinky things I just got back form seeing Cousin Grung and he has make a new food discovery as well. He managed to get some of those big spiky green fruits, the ones that the big grey animals with the long noses and teeth and the little people with the red hair all over themselves who say "ook" a lot seem to like so much. He says that once you get past the smell (they smell a bit like that pit we all go to after we eat to get rid of the heavy feeling in our bottoms does after we have left it open for two moons during that time when its really hot and the sun stary around a very long time) they taste pretty good' However you have to weight this agaisnt the fact that having eaten so many of the things Grung has begun to smell like a big green spiky thing, and isn't allowed into the village now, at least till cousin Zurg comes back with some of that fruit he found, the little ones that don't taste like much but make you smell like the little purple flowers we get in the spring (NOTE from the 20th entruy editor, this is a real fruit, it's called a keppel fruit or Keppel apple and is really is supposed to make your body emissions smell like a violet)

                                                              2. "OK everybody, great safety tip: Those hard round things that open and close and squirt water, the ones by the water, the white ones or the black ones... DO NOT eat them! Thanks Herb.... Herb? Can't you go behind a rock?"

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                                                                1. "Bring in the testing dog ! "

                                                                  1. Tried some of the soup recently and it was good. I tried to make some myself, but I don't think I got the recipe right. I threw some leftover haunch and green things and water into the mammoth hide pouch over the hot rocks, but I also added some roots I dug up, and some powdery stuff from seeds that I had ground up between two stones and let dry out. It was sort of like soup but very thick. I call it Stooo.

                                                                    1. You people and your fancy newfangled hot stuff. Why ruin a perfectly good ocean thing when you can slice it up and roll it together with that white grainy stuff in some ocean weed and eat it as is? Also, I have developed a stick-based rock-to-mouth transport system that you are going to love.

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                                                                      1. What have you eaten that has the most legs?

                                                                        1. I was down by the wet stuff the other day and noticed that some of the rocks open up like all they are is a mouth. Well anyway, I looked closer and there is this slimy stuff inside. It looks like you can eat it but I don't know. Who'll be the first one brave enough to eat the slimy stuff out of the rock mouths?? It looks like what happens when my nose explodes.


                                                                          1. Now look. We've been over this time and again. Oh, I forgot. What's time? Anyway.....The wet stuff is good. The hard things that look like rocks are good.
                                                                            What I hate is that stuff some Ogs are calling soup. It's tasteless. Lke some of the hairy hunters around here. What I want is some of that dizzy making juice. Is anyone making any this moon? I need a change of locations. Did someone say something about moving to another cave? I can bring my peas.... and now my Qs are up and growing. Surely we can think of something to put together for a feast with that stuff and the hard rocks from the wet place. Someone send out the smoke signals.....Two moons and suns from now. Before the Hot round thing in the way above us is above us. RSVP. ASAP

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                                                                            1. re: Gio

                                                                              Come to my cave. I have juice. I'll be honest, I'm not a big fan of peas. Unless you can make juice out of them. Looking forward to trying your Q's, though. Bring the rock things from the wet stuff - goes well with my light juice. I will put pieces of running things on sticks and make them almost black over the hot stuff. Goes well with my dark juice.

                                                                              Feel free to club a man and bring him along. Get one for me too.

                                                                              1. re: Wahooty

                                                                                You have more than one kind of juice? I *am* moving in with you, then.

                                                                                I think you'll like the peas the way I get them ready to eat. I put them into a small hollowed out log and bang on them with a rock. Then I mix in some wet stuff. I found some cute little leaves that tast like - I don't know - stingy in a good way on my tongue so I tore them into little pieces and added them to the peas and banged some more. I took a stick and turned them round and round till the stuff was all together. It's kinda like a big leafy-colored mess but tastes good. I think I'll call them mushy peas. My Q's have pretty flowers on them now. Maybe I can stuff some of the mushys into the flowers and you can heat them over the really hot thing in the ground you have. Or..... we can invite little h steve. He has a big girl grill thingy.

                                                                                I don't have a club for a man. I have rocks though, but my aim isn't so good since I tried to hit a big thing in the sky two suns ago and missed. It had long arms with flappy things hanging down. If it didn't have those flappy things all over it would be good to eat, I think. Anyway all the men around here are too hairy. I guess they don't know that the coverings for the wet rocky things make good scrapers.

                                                                                1. re: Gio

                                                                                  You mean there are men somewhere that AREN'T hairy? Now you're just making things up.

                                                                                  One of my batches of juice somehow got holes in it. I don't know how this happened, but I feel this weird urge to save it for a special occasion now.

                                                                                  1. re: Wahooty

                                                                                    is it the kind you can see through or the kind that looks like thin juice from the running things?

                                                                                    1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                      The kind you can see through. If I can figure out how it happened, I'll do it to the dark juice too. I am curious as to whether it works on all kinds of juice. It tastes like stars.

                                                                                2. re: Wahooty

                                                                                  Club me!!! Club me!!! So long as you don't let me have too much dizzy juice first, I do a pretty good job of turning the running things almost black over the hot stuff. And if you do, well, suffice it to say that the hot stuff is as good as the wet rocky things at taking off hair.

                                                                                  1. re: alanbarnes

                                                                                    My neighbor a few caves down found a wet rocky thing he calls razor clam, good for scraping away hair and hurts less than the hot stuff. He wants his woman to scrape her legs that look like wooly mammoth.

                                                                                    1. re: alanbarnes

                                                                                      Alan darling, I'd be willing to bet women are forming quite the queue to club you - how can I resist an open invitation? Bring a singed friend for Gio. And one of those flappy things to put over the hot stuff - anything that hard to catch has to be tasty.

                                                                                      1. re: Wahooty

                                                                                        Oh yes please. I brook no hairy men gladly. Where did I first hear that?? But, let it be known. No bad smelling, singed skin.

                                                                                        The only tingly juice I've had lately was made by the tribe down by the viney trees that grow another kind of round things that have little seeds inside but are sweet when you squish them into your mouth. When those round things are almost rotten the tribe plucks them from the vines and puts them into some kind of hollowed out bucket.... I'm calling it..... then with their feet they do some sort of dance which makes the water flow out. That stuff is put into another thing and it is left to sit for many moons and suns. Boy. You should taste that stuff after a while. Talk about dizzy making. I love it.

                                                                                        Now.... When's the party, who's coming and what are they bringing? To eat or other wise....

                                                                                        1. re: Gio

                                                                                          I like that tingly vine juice, too, but I give it all to women, and then they happy to make babies.

                                                                                      2. re: alanbarnes

                                                                                        The best way to get them to club you is to run the other way. Some things never change.

                                                                                        1. re: Cinnamon

                                                                                          But... But... I run faster than the hairy creatures I've met. I just do not want to give up my autonomy. Or is that anatomy?

                                                                                          1. re: Gio

                                                                                            To hair is human, to forego, the vines. (You can swing on those things! The "vines," I mean.)

                                                                                            1. re: Cinnamon

                                                                                              Well, sweetiepie... after all the tingly juice Veggo wants to give us... we can swing on anything. Just sayin'.

                                                                                              1. re: Gio

                                                                                                Sounds like I'm going to need an extra jar for everyone to put the sticks in that they use to pry open their cave doors.

                                                                                                1. re: Wahooty

                                                                                                  We might just save that thought for Chapter 2.

                                                                                                  In the meantime..... What's for dinner? Don't you think it's time for us to begin to try to think of a way to remember what we're eating and how we're preparing it? The two-legged upright walkers who come after us might want to know.

                                                                                                  There's really no segue here, I'm just trying to diffuse the hairy ones.

                                                                                          2. re: Cinnamon

                                                                                            Ah, there's the problem. I thought being considerate and attentive would do the trick. But although women seem to enjoy it, they don't club me, saying they "don't want to mess up our friendship."

                                                                                            Gotta try running the other way. I'll run slow.

                                                                                            1. re: alanbarnes

                                                                                              I learnt a woman called "Judge Judy" passed the bar test, and she handles this stuff.

                                                                                    2. When I have a call of nature I go out and make a little hole, do our stuff and cover it up again. Funny thing is, all the plants round there are growing like crazy. Must be something I ate.

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                                                                                      1. re: Paulustrious

                                                                                        My good friend Frung came to visit me today and he had a most astonishing story. He says that a few days ago he had put a large pot of dizzy juice on his fire (Oosh had recently gotten sick from bad dizzy juice, and had told him that if he put his dizzy juice on the fire for a while, it would make it safe again) The wet air coming out of the hot dizzy juice was bothering his face, so he put a lid on the the pot and stuck a length of dried intetine in it and the other end in a big gourd so that he could let the wet air out later outside. he them went to sleep. When he woke up he found that the gourd was supringly full of funny smelling water (he said that oddly it looked like regualr water, though he had been cooking red dizzy juice) the fire was still going but he was done with it so he trew about half of the water in the gourd onto the fire........and the next thing he knew there was a big noise like the one that comes out of the sky when the bright white rivers show up there and a great wind threw him out of his cave and across the clearing.
                                                                                        When he woke up again he was thirsty, and not having any other lquid near he drank some of the funny water he still had. This water much have caught the essence of the fire, sinc ehe said it felt like someoun had put fire in his throat, and his whole body began to feel warm. Oddly after a few tries he found the feeling strangely pleasant, and has begun to make this "fire spirit in water" farily often. He's also made the surpising discovery that if he keeps the fire sprit in water in an old hollow log for a while it strats to turn yellow, then sorta red brown. He says that whne it does this,, it tastes better, the longer he leaves it in there, the better it tastes. He says best results come from using a old log he was going to use to make a pair of canoes, so he had lit the inside of it to burn it out (no, he couln't explain why he didn't split the log in half first, then set it on fire).

                                                                                        1. re: jumpingmonk

                                                                                          Frung has always been given to telling far-fetched nonsense. Tell him to put a cork in it.

                                                                                          1. re: jumpingmonk

                                                                                            so the dizzy juice starts to turn color again if you leave it alone to rest in the log. that must be the natural state. maybe putting it on the hot stuff takes out all the extra stuff, leaving only the true juice somehow. some crazy guy out near the dry area keeps talking about the hot stuff making things clean again, but he never made it sound useful the way Frung did. And Frung's way makes the juice clean looking, not like the other things that turn black and dirty.