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Any Hounds out there able to offer up their choice for the best barbeque/rib sauce available in T.O. I was looking to get my hands on Arthur Bryant's (of Kansas City fame), Substitutes accepted and where it can be had would be appreciated. I live in mid-town Toronto , so no trips to Brampton (unless it was for Bryan's). Thanks folks !

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  1. Look around, there are some fantastic Canadian Made BBQ sauces (a lot from Ontario) out there. Give them a try.

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    1. re: BusterRhino

      I'd agree with BusterRhino, look for local products before shelling out big bucks for imported sauces. Most imports have a comparable product available up here if you look for and taste test what's available locally.

      A while back I traveled to the states on a weekly basis and tried many of the bigger names that aren't available up here (Sweet Baby Rays, KC Masterpiece, Stubbs, Dinosaur BBQ etc.) All had their own merits (many contain liquid smoke which I shy away from) and most didn't grab me enough to shy away from anything available up here.

      Costco carries at least a couple of Canadian brands throughout the summer months, keep an eye open.

      1. re: Dr Butcher

        For BBQ sauce in a bottle KC Masterpiece wins hands down, although it need a bit of dilution to cut the sweetness. I've come back from trips to Arthur Bryant's, and places like that and their bottled stuff is not the same as the stuff they serve. So I don't miss it.

        Really, BBQ sauce is about the easiest thing in the world to make, so buying it is sort of silly. The only stuff that I buy these days is Grace's Jerk BBQ sauce. It's odd stuff - a regular tomato BBQ sauce with jerk flavor. Odd, but surprising good, if not conventional.

        1. re: evansl

          Funny you should mention the Grace's Jerk BBQ sauce. I bought a bottle last summer and straight out of the bottle thought it was horrid. So much so I didn't put it on any meat in fear that it would be ruined. This past winter I did up some chicken thighs in a crock pot and used the Jerk BBQ sauce as the liquid in the pot. I thought it turned out wonderfully, cooking the sauce totally changed the flavour. I'd pick it up again to try on grilled meats.

          1. re: Dr Butcher

            They have a good product line. One of the better commercial jerk sauces, as well.

            1. re: Dr Butcher

              Try Walkerswood or Wonderchuck.

              DT

          2. re: Dr Butcher

            You can't get goods BBQ sauce in a bottle, so the Canadian brands are just as tasteless as most of the US brands. You go to Arthur Bryant's or To Copper's and you get one thing. You buy their bottles to take home and it's entirely different. Like I said below, KC Masterpiece is about as good as you can get in a bottle, and even it needs some work.

            Anyway, BBQ is a bout cooking meat. The sauce is a relatively unimportant add on. Most people don't really seem to get this. Slathering buckets of sauce on your BBQ is like covering your steak with ketchup. Meat sauces mainly exist to cover up lousy meat. Just ask the French.

            1. re: evansl

              I totally agree with you evansl! The French know nothing about serving quality meats. Not like the Americans.

        2. I have to admit that in lazy moments I've blended with some success. My street cred is going to drop significantly, but here it goes.

          Start with Kraft basic, add some Bufalo Chipotle, blend, then consider adding some fresh thyme to the final baste, maybe even some cumin.

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          1. re: Snarf

            I've often wondered if a small commercial operation might start with a few barrels of basic Kraft. Your additions are a great improvement, no doubt.
            I lost a good sauce recipe, Carolina style, that was finished by adding butter to the simmering pot. It was great for basting.

          2. Phil's Real BBQ on College St., just west of Ossington does a Kansas style sauce, I believe they also sell it by the bottle. It is so worth the trip down there. I'm all about the brisket, while Hubby swears by the pulled pork. Serious, badass BBQ! This guy goes and competes in those crazy cook-offs in the south, so you know he means business!

            Check out : http://www.philsoriginalbbq.com

            1. If you're looking for easily accessible commercial brands, I really like the PC Smokin' Stampede Chipotle Beer sauce.

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              1. re: TorontoJo

                That's the best stuff I found up here. It's actually just plain good stuff from anywhere.

                DT

                1. re: TorontoJo

                  Unless you take the time to prep and make your own. PC Smokin' Stampede Is THE BEST supermarket sauce you will find. End of story.

                2. The best sauce I have found in Canada is the Our Compliments ":Kansas City Style Smokey BBQ sauce" from Sobeys @ $2.49 a bottle. I find it just as good as most of the BBQ sauces from the States. Also the Dianas smokey bbq sauce is not bad . I use these sauces on a regular bbq grilling as well as when i smoke my ribs and brisket . I always bring my different sauces when i return from the states but these two local sauces carry me through . I would love to know what you all think of these sauces

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                  1. re: itzi

                    As the original poster I wanted to thank you itzi (and all others) for your FEEDback. I agree that the two you mentioned are quite good and provide great value. Diana also makes a solid Gourmet Western Smokehouse at less than $3.Don't be affraid to add a little malt vinegar and /or brown sugar and mix it with 2 or 3 suitable picks... presto, your own "secret Sauce". I guess no sightings of Arthur Bryant's here as yet. . Lastly,has any one tried that rather expensive (about $ 10) Bone Suckin' Sauce ? Trendy foodie marketing tactics at work , I fear. Please, Keep the good info comin,!!

                  2. Tunnell BBQ in Windsor makes a number of stellar sauces. Their best IMO is called "cook-off sauce". Its sweet, but they make savoury, salty sauces as well.

                    1. Was doing a search on this just yesterday. Seems a lot of the "good" sauces seem to come from the US (big surprise eh considering how many good BBQ places there are here). One that I did see come up on my search was a sauce called "Bone Sucking Sauce" which I found surprisingly at the Loblaws (Bayview Village). Wasn't cheap though $8.99 for 450ml (small jar). Going to have to look at some others including making my own which I usually do starting with a base being a commercial brand like Krafts and then adding a little this and that. Try adding some Chinese Hoisin sauce to a commercial brand...then add some honey/hot sauce/spices according to your own taste.

                      Forgot. I also saw Stubbs there for $5.99 - heard that brand was pretty good as well. Going to have to try Sweet Baby Rays as I hear decent things about it and it sounds pretty much like a regular brand.

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                      1. re: LUV_TO_EAT

                        I love Bone Sucking Sauce...got the mild one cheap on clearance somewhere in USA once, think was $4.99 USD when our dollar was better...but not willing to pay the price point you mentioned for I have seen it expensive everywhere...rather make home made...I like Stubbs too....had the original and it is a Texas sauce..peppery, tomato based but not sweet and smoky, probably with coffee in it...aren't a lot of Texas sauces including coffee? I would buy it regularly for brisket and beef ribs but my friends in Austin send me Rudy's Sause which is better IMHO....I trade them Tim Horton's Large Tins for Rudy's Sause and don't see that deal fading soon..haha...yes Sause mis-spelt on purpose.

                      2. I LOVE buster rhino's sauces. There are 3 kinds. If you dont want to travel to Whitby (even though its worth the drive) I THINK you might be able to get them at Costco. You would need to confirm with them about this.

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                        1. re: helen0505

                          Not there this year. Just Lou's, KC. (too smokey) and Cattleboys, from Alberta.

                          1. re: jayt90

                            actually, i do have a rant about my bottle of buster rhino sauce. bought and opened it about 2 weeks ago and its already gone bad. not sure if i'd open another bottle unless i knew i was going to use it all in one shot.

                            1. re: helen0505

                              I bought a 3 litre bottle 6 weeks ago and, (medium) , and it is now half finished, and still in good shape, on my patio. Never saw the fridge.

                              1. re: jayt90

                                i must've gotten a bad bottle as i kept mine in the fridge.

                        2. The vendors at the upcoming ribfests usually have their sauce for sale so if you find something there you like, you can pick up a couple of bottles.

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                          1. re: fickle

                            I second fickle - the sauces from ribfest are usually good.

                            1. re: fickle

                              Some of the ribfest competitors start with bulk Buster Rhino's sauce and then add their own special ingredients. For wings, I use the hot Rhino sauce, some mild P.C. chicken wing sauce (orange colour) and a tablespoon of chili/garlic sauce from any Chinese grocery. It works very well with smoked bbq wings.
                              I also like the P.C. Chipotle BBQ sauce and have for the past few years.