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Papaya King or Gray's Papaya?

tattud_gurl Apr 24, 2009 08:31 AM

If you had to choose which has the better dog....which one would you pick?

  1. guttergourmet Apr 24, 2009 08:36 AM

    hotdoglover would tell you they're the same dog (though perhaps Papaya's are not frozen) but I still favor the original Papaya King.

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      phantomdoc Apr 24, 2009 08:54 AM

      1 vote for Papaya King.

      1. thew Apr 24, 2009 09:03 AM

        papaya king

        1. a_and_w Apr 24, 2009 09:49 AM

          Papaya King. I like their slaw dog.

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          1. re: a_and_w
            tattud_gurl Apr 24, 2009 10:13 AM

            Papaya King it is...........

            thanx guys!

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            davisready Apr 24, 2009 01:11 PM

            I prefer Papaya King solely based on the fact that they have a wider variety of toppings. Although, I find myself eating at Grays more often due to its proximity.

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              Cpalms Apr 24, 2009 04:54 PM

              they are so close...but I think gray's has better/fresher buns...

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                bigmackdaddy Apr 24, 2009 05:49 PM


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              trixareforkids Apr 24, 2009 07:31 PM

              papaya biotch.....obviously

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                hotdoglover Apr 26, 2009 02:57 AM

                First time I went years ago I favored Papaya King by a slim margin. I've since found out that they use the same dog, a 10 to a lb natural casing Sabrett. I've gone into detail in the past on here as to how I found out and I won't go into it now. Papaya King is one of the 10% of accounts that get their dogs delivered fresh rather than frozen. I don't think Gray's does.

                Katz's deli also uses the same recipe Sabrett though it is slightly larger and more expensive. I've since gone back to both. It's hard to say which is better since both use the same exact frank and prepare it the same way. Depends on how your dog is that particular day; maybe at one place the dog is dried out, undercooked, etc. I have gone to Papaya King and gotten a stale bun. I would say go to whichever place is closer to you.

                Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City uses the same dogs and they are always hot and fresh. I went to 87 places with a panel from a newspaper to sample hot dogs all over New Jersey. One day we went to New York. We ate hot dogs at Crif's, Katz's, Nathan's, Papaya King, and Gray's Papaya. In my opinion, the dogs were best at Papaya King, Gray's, and Katz's with very little difference except that I got a bun that fell apart at Papaya King. All 8 members agreed that the dogs at Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City were fresher and better prepared than at Papaya King or Gray's.

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                  Hinterlander Apr 28, 2009 08:18 PM

                  I wish every poster was as thorough as hotdoglover is. I always learn something from his posts.

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                    a_and_w Apr 29, 2009 07:50 AM

                    Me too -- thanks for all the great info hotdoglover!

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                  Cheese Cheesely Apr 26, 2009 05:13 PM

                  it's pretty close from first to last, but in my limited experience:

                  clinton papaya > katz's > papaya king > gray's papaya > criff dog

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                    thew Apr 26, 2009 06:38 PM

                    i only go to criff dog to use the phone booth. the sweet sweet phone booth.

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                      foodwhisperer Apr 26, 2009 11:18 PM

                      Papya King is better IMHO> Grays is about same as Mike;s,,, Papaya king gets there hot dogs made by Marathon Meats, so does Nathan;s and Katz's

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                        hotdoglover Apr 27, 2009 02:58 AM

                        Papaya King, Gray's, Katz's, and probably the other Papaya knockoffs get their dogs from Marathon (Sabrett). Nathan's did for awhile, but no longer. They get theirs from SMG Meats out of Chicago. Crif's gets theirs from Thumann's.

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                          guttergourmet Apr 28, 2009 08:46 AM

                          HDL- I'm always glad when you emerge. Had the knobelwurst a/k/a stukel a/k/a knoblauch at Katz's last weekend. The skin was a little tough but otherwise a hot dog on steroids. Any opinion?

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                            hotdoglover Apr 28, 2009 10:42 AM

                            Never had the knobelwurst.

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                              foodwhisperer Apr 28, 2009 01:13 PM

                              The Knoblewurst aka knockwurst i find to be way more tasty than a hot dog. Knoble means garlic and there is lots of it in knoblewurst. The skin ( casing) is supposed to be much thicker than a hot dog. LOL yep its a hot dog on steroids,,, and more satisfying to eat than a hotdog, and katz's has good ones

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                                guttergourmet Apr 28, 2009 04:53 PM

                                I had the knobelwurst (which I believe is distinct from a knockwurst which is not as garlicky) on a hot dog bun (actually two separate hot dog buns as it is too thick and had to be sliced in half). The casing is so thick that the bun disintegrated as I tried to bite into the wurst. Suggest you have it on rye.

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                                  foodwhisperer Apr 29, 2009 06:10 AM

                                  I think knockwurst and knoblewurst are the same. Knockwurst is german for heavy garlic sausage, knoblewurst is yiddish for the same. (knoble means garlic in yiddish) Germans mix the beef with pork, Katz's doesnt use pork. Knacken means "crack " in German, which refers to the thick casings used, that make a cracking sound when you bite into them. Perhaps Katz's differentiates between the two. I will find out if they do. And yes, they always cut them in half and rye bread is the way to go with them , and mustard.

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                                    guttergourmet Apr 29, 2009 01:52 PM

                                    Guess that makes me a "crack" addict.

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                                      thew Apr 29, 2009 02:15 PM

                                      Knoblauch is the word in german (a fact i learned watching yankee games with my european family)

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                                        guttergourmet Apr 29, 2009 02:22 PM

                                        see my original post above.

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                                          foodwhisperer Apr 29, 2009 09:00 PM

                                          i guess we are a bunch of crack addicts....By the way , Katz;s says they used to have knockwurst aka "specials": which basically are fat hot dogs. I believe they no longer have those.. and what they have now iknublewurst, garlic wurst with the thick casing for crack addicts. So in Germany knublewurst means garlic wurst too ,,, knockwurst might possibley be the same thing in germany ,,but not in Katzs,,, "keep on crackin":

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                                            guttergourmet Apr 30, 2009 08:16 AM

                                            That's what I thought as they list knockwurst on the menu separately from the knoblewurst.

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                                foodwhisperer Apr 28, 2009 01:11 PM

                                thanks for the update on Nathan;s.

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                            mike3son Oct 18, 2009 11:04 AM

                            Well there both good but Mike's PAPAYA beats both of them

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                              foodwhisperer Oct 26, 2009 05:40 PM

                              mike3 i think you just like mike;s better because of the name ,,, haha
                              Mikes is good on Reade St

                            2. thew Oct 20, 2009 10:45 AM

                              i tried papya dog on 14th street.

                              their papaya is VILE

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                                guttergourmet Oct 20, 2009 02:55 PM

                                I actually prefer mango juice to papaya which Grey's doesn't offer.

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                                  hotdoglover Oct 20, 2009 04:56 PM

                                  And their dogs are skinless.

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