613937 Tue Apr 21 18:57:37 -0700 2009 30 6 Southwest 0 4616791 My mom is taking me out to dinner Friday for my birthday, my choice. We work downtown (near City Hall, 3rd Ave and Washington) and it'll be easier to stay in the area. I live in Central Scottsdale, and most of my dining is around there/Old Town. I was thinking maybe Lisa G or Barrio, but am open to whatever different suggestions you guys may have. I'm not looking for anything too fancy or anything, just good food. Thanks! Tue Apr 21 18:57:37 -0700 2009 179970 meleyna 1 4617052 PastaBar is a great new choice for Downtown! Do a quick search here and you'll see what they've got going on. Very good food, staff is friendly, and the location is very comfortable....not too fancy or stuffy. *Lisa G has this sesame seed gelato 'bowl' that would be an incredible dessert for celebrating a birthday.....yum....Happy Birthday! Tue Apr 21 20:56:55 -0700 2009 4616791 92647 MesaChow 1 4617188 I think for a birthday celebration, Coronado Cafe would be a good choice. www.coronadocafe.com Tue Apr 21 22:47:35 -0700 2009 4616791 11583 ipsedixit 1 4618247 Can you set some parameters on "stay in the area"? If you're considering Lisa G or Barrio Cafe, it sounds like you're driving and willing to travel outside of Downtown into nearby residential neighborhods. Is that your preference, or are you looking for places you can reach on foot from your office? Assuming the latter, I would suggest any of the following: Cibo -- nice craft pizzera, also has nice antipasto and crepes for dessert Sens -- Asian tapas; nice if you want to linger over drinks and sample lots of things Moira -- Stylish new Japanese restaurant PastaBAR -- as stated above District -- All-American restaurant at the Sheraton; emphasis on local ingredients Wed Apr 22 09:49:42 -0700 2009 4616791 26466 silverbear 2 4618336 With the exception of District (which I don't know much about), this is pretty much the list I was putting together in my head before I dozed off in front of the computer last night. :-) Wed Apr 22 10:17:40 -0700 2009 4618247 86822 hohokam 2 4619808 We're willing to drive--the main idea is just to go somewhere that's closer to work than home. And thanks for the Cibo reminder--I've been meaning to stop by there for a while now, and it actually is walking distance. Wed Apr 22 17:11:10 -0700 2009 4618247 179970 meleyna 2 4619961 We stopped at District the other night pre-show, and we were very impressed. Good service, nice space, interesting menu with a local emphasis as silverbear mentioned, and verrrry generous wine pours. It is now on my shortlist for down-town meetups. Wed Apr 22 18:13:38 -0700 2009 4618247 10846 themis 3 4633460 did you try dinner? ive been consistently underwhelmed with anything other than happy hour there. lunch was the most disappointing, followed by dinner. breakfast wasn't bad. the people are very nice, and i love the free valet. but the food is missing something for me. Mon Apr 27 14:14:42 -0700 2009 4619961 60025 winedubar 4 4634289 No -- but then, when I am downtown, I am not looking for dinner. I am generally looking for a happy hour place or a place to drink after the theater. On the whole, I tend to prefer small plates kinds of places than traditional full dinner places, even. But I could see finding it disappointing; the space is very stylish and it is a hotel lobby, after all. I could imagine they might be aiming more middle-of-the-road than you or I would be hoping for. Mon Apr 27 18:50:26 -0700 2009 4633460 10846 themis 4 4870213 I had dinner there the other night. It was underwhelming. The appetizers were really quite good, but the dinner entrees were very disappointing. Creative, but no magic... in some cases no common sense... Best to leave the District for after work cocktails and apps Sat Jul 18 12:13:20 -0700 2009 4633460 141035 oryza 2 4632285 SB or Hohokam, have you tried Moira? Mon Apr 27 09:20:21 -0700 2009 4618247 95577 yamalam 3 4632314 I haven't been yet and probably won't have a chance to try it until a few weeks from now. Mon Apr 27 09:26:21 -0700 2009 4632285 86822 hohokam 3 4633450 ive been to moira, for dinner and lunch..its great looking inside...the chef is related to johnny chu of fate/sens fame (or so we've been told) and the food was great. they have loads of interesting cocktails, an interesting rating system for sake (to tell what is more dry/sweet/etc), and good sushi..the food is fushion (vietnamese inspired stuffed grape leaves, for example, were the clear hit of the dinner), some hotpots, and alot of funky rollls. our server was a bit nervous, and the himachi wasn't very good. they were very gracious, and took it away and off the bill. it's not hana, but its very good. Mon Apr 27 14:12:41 -0700 2009 4632285 60025 winedubar 3 4634500 Yes, two meals at Moira so far. It's a work in progress, but I've been pleased for the most part. things I liked: very nice, creative rolls -- restrained with ingredients, no cream cheese overload most generous portion of seaweed salad I've ever been served nice gyoza, age crab, and other cooked dishes fresh grated real wasabi available nice beverage selection smoked salmon and toro nigiri good brilliant urbanist design -- ground floor retail in a multistory building areas for improvement: service polite but still finding its way on the details mackerel nigiri seemed past its prime Mon Apr 27 20:07:58 -0700 2009 4632285 26466 silverbear 4 4635587 mackerel nigiri can be a challenge -- it has a high oil content and spoils easily. The most common variety, saba, is almost always cured for this reason. Lately I have been getting aji (spanish mackerel or horse mackerel) which seem to not require the same curing; since they are so small you often end up using the whole fish for one serving, and then having the bones deep fried - delicious! I may try this since I am headed downtown for a concert this week, but it's just a little further from the concert hall than I would like to walk, and there is a thread on Yelp regarding this place that isn't too favorable. Tue Apr 28 09:05:03 -0700 2009 4634500 157916 zencker 3 4763933 I tried Moira last night had one of their special rolls ($14), rainbow roll, and shrimp gyoza. It was good but I would much rather spend the same money at Yasu which BTW I had my second great meal there one week ago. It's a cool concept great menu but wouldn't go out of my way to eat there. Thu Jun 11 12:07:57 -0700 2009 4632285 63433 drewb123 1 4619977 cibo is personally I think the best bet downtown, haven't tried Hanny's but heard good things. Have Fun! Wed Apr 22 18:17:08 -0700 2009 4616791 63433 drewb123 2 4620553 Hanny's reminds me of Denny's with a liquor license. Wed Apr 22 23:01:51 -0700 2009 4619977 11583 ipsedixit 3 4621156 Ha, maybe we'll skip Hanny's then. If I'm going to Denny's, it's most likely the one in downtown Scottsdale, not Phoenix, and at that point, a liquor license is the LAST of my worries. ;) Thu Apr 23 07:37:29 -0700 2009 4620553 179970 meleyna 4 4622535 if that denny's had a historic building, with a multi-million dollar award winning renovation, great funky bathrooms a la az88 (because it's the same folks as az88, natch), impressive, modernist furniture and prosciutto, then yeah, its like a dennys with a liquor license. i don't get the comparison at all. Thu Apr 23 12:51:10 -0700 2009 4621156 60025 winedubar 5 4623029 Ditto. Thu Apr 23 14:44:41 -0700 2009 4622535 135447 boingo2000 5 4623106 Try the food, then you'll get the comparo. Thu Apr 23 15:12:09 -0700 2009 4622535 11583 ipsedixit 6 4623287 WOW!!! i will def not be trying it any time soon. Thu Apr 23 16:11:46 -0700 2009 4623106 63433 drewb123 7 4632272 I think winedubar has tried the food, and so have I. You should give it a try drew, and Meyleyna, I don't think hanny's would be right for a birthday celebration, but since you work downtown, it's a great happy hour or lunch place that you should check out int he future. Their pizzas aren't as good as Bianco or Humble Pie, but are on par with say, Sauce, and their cocktails rock. Mon Apr 27 09:17:51 -0700 2009 4623287 95577 yamalam 8 4633430 yes, ive tried the food many times. i liked it..its a bar, wiith some food. the atmosphere is top notch, their pimms cup is delicious, and the food is quite tasty. the roast beef sandwich with fried egg and bacon is stellar. Mon Apr 27 14:09:36 -0700 2009 4632272 60025 winedubar 9 4878914 I really like Hanny's, and a lot of other people do too. They have great salads, and I also enjoy the simplicity of their pizzas too. It is nothing like Denny's. You are being silly with that comparison. Tue Jul 21 17:40:23 -0700 2009 4633430 1095624 jendowning 1 4633945 I am surprised no one has mentioned Kincaids. I have not tried it for dinner but stopped in for their happy hour (all appetizers are half off) before a Diamondbacks game last week and enjoyed what I had (three very good Kobe meatloaf sliders for $4 versus my Diamondbacks dog at the ballpark for $5. Nice looking bar and dining room. Perhaps someone who has dined there can provide a better update. Mon Apr 27 16:40:25 -0700 2009 4616791 46819 Poerz 2 4634504 Kincaid's is a solid contender. Not necessarily innovative, but never really bad either. I like the emphasis on fresh seafood, including Copper River salmon coming soon! Mon Apr 27 20:09:17 -0700 2009 4633945 26466 silverbear 3 4635647 Kincaid's is probably my favorite place to go before the Symphony -- it's right around the corner and the happy hour is exceptional, though the "serving towers" used for apps can be a little daunting. I haven't ordered dinner there but I managed to get one that was prepared in error for another table -- halibut cheeks with asparagus and garlic mashed potatoes. Not overly fancy but definitely not ordinary. I really like the place. As for Copper River salmon, I only indulged once last year and may not again. A NY Times editorial (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/opinion/09grescoe.html?ref=opinion) had a profound effect on me. Tue Apr 28 09:22:43 -0700 2009 4634504 157916 zencker 4 4635663 Couldn't add the link to my earlier post: Tue Apr 28 09:26:58 -0700 2009 4635647 157916 zencker 5 4871468 Kincaid's is on the westbound light rail and just a block off the eastbound light rail. If you're going to a ball game and want a pre-game dinner or apps it's really convenient and much less expensive to park in one of the light rail park and ride lots and ride the train. Sun Jul 19 07:58:49 -0700 2009 4635663 46819 Poerz