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EWSflash Apr 20, 2009 09:05 PM

I feel bad about thinking this, and would never tell mr Bayless, because you just don't say those things to people about their children, but am I the only one that thinks his daughter is a big hindrancs to his show?
I've no doubt she's a lovely young woman with multiple talents, but she isn't good for the show, period. He has a weird enough affect (although I've grown to enjoy it) that he's the only odd delivery that the show needs.

Is it just me? My husband agrees with me, which gave me the courage to ask a bigger audience.

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    Kristine Apr 21, 2009 11:42 AM

    Not as big a hinderance as Jacques Pepin's daughter, Caludine was.

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      bnemes3343 Apr 21, 2009 12:46 PM

      I'm not that bothered by RIck's daugher. But, I have to agree with Kristine about Claudine. She is such an utter klutz in the kitchen that it's hard to believe they share any gene's. I mean have you every seen her with a chef's knife? Stand back! Lidia's daughter is also featured a lot, but she seems to have at least an inkling of what to do in the kitchen. And I enjoy when she has Joe on.

      1. re: bnemes3343
        CindyJ Jan 24, 2010 07:54 AM

        I also love it when she has her grandkids on.

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          iL Divo May 21, 2012 06:36 PM

          LIDIA and her daughter are fine by me as well, I'm not put off at all by her or her adorable mother. As much as I don't enjoy admitting this Joe to me is a handsome man who comes across (to me anyway and quite possibly I'm wrong) as being very full of himself. So I prefer to simply watch him from afar or on that MasterChef show where he's one of the judges.

        2. re: Kristine
          iL Divo May 21, 2012 06:30 PM

          "Not as big a hinderance as Jacques Pepin's daughter, Caludine was."

          ooooooo major BINGO!!!

          we all love our children duh but 'what' did Claudine have to offer at all in any sense?

        3. Miss Needle Apr 21, 2009 12:41 PM

          I'm also not a fan of Bayless's daughter and Jacque Pepin's daughter on TV. I really don't think they add anything to the show. For the longest time, before I realized that Claudine was Pepin's daughter, I thought she was an ex-student that Jacques had slept with and thought it was a big part of an elaborate blackmail scheme. In general, I'm not crazy about when these celebrities bring their family members on the set -- like Rachel Ray bringing in her husband on those travel shows. Why? To promote his band? So that she can keep an eye on him? There really is a reason why certain folks are on TV and most of us aren't. Aside from just pure cooking talent (or in the case of Rachel Ray, I should say hosting abilities), you need to have a certain personality (or at least be able to fake one) to be engaging on the small screen. These people are probably very nice in real life, but I just don't want to watch them on TV.

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            wattacetti Apr 21, 2009 01:38 PM

            I met Claudine Pépin (she's charming) but the original premise with teaming up with her father was that she is/was a klutz in the kitchen and couldn't cook. "Cooking with…" and "Encore with Claudine" were based on the premise of teaching his kid not to poison the parents so in that context Claudine worked very well.

            Lanie Bayless on the other hand gives me hives. Especially the entire period where she walked around with a puppet (gee - obsess over Ed the Sock much?)

            1. re: wattacetti
              EWSflash Apr 21, 2009 02:31 PM

              Oh my goodness. Glad I missed the puppet bit.

              Claudine doesn't bother me, but I thought she was his granddaughter,, because of something one of them said- got it wrong, apparently.

              1. re: EWSflash
                paulj Apr 21, 2009 02:44 PM

                In the series that is currently playing on CreateTV, there is mention of his granddaughter - Claudine's daughter, who is about 4 now. Jacques is a proud grandfather.

                Of the two daughters, my impression is that Lanie is a better fit, especially on the episodes that center around a party at Rick's home.

                But does it really matter whether the family members are TV pros or not? Maybe the sticky about 'less bashing' should be extended to family?

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                  CucumberBoy Apr 21, 2009 04:15 PM

                  I love Rick Bayless' passion and knowledge of Mexican cuisine; his daughter, however, is like finding a hair in your guacamole, if you catch my drift.

                  Dr. Phil is the king of nepotism, hands down, but give Rick a few more years, maybe he can overtake him...

                  -cb-

                  1. re: paulj
                    EWSflash Apr 21, 2009 05:19 PM

                    Thankk you for the granddaughter reference, I probably wasn't listening closely enough so I misunderstood what was being said about granddaughters.

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                      PattiCakes Apr 22, 2009 05:10 AM

                      I agree with paulj. There have been a ton of posts about how many of the food shows are deceptive or use slick personalities over substance. We rant about hosts that are not really "chefs", but are really entertainers dressed in chef's clothing, schooled in chef-speak. Maybe the better choice would be to compromise & limit the exposure of these not-so-TV-polished family members, using them as an accent rather than a premise for the show.

                      I haven't seen Bayless's daughter; Claudine doesn't really bother me. She's a bit stiff, but I think they have a nice relationship on camera. It's just not a "slick" show -- more old school basics than many of the newer shows.

                      1. re: paulj
                        scubadoo97 Apr 23, 2009 03:31 PM

                        I also have no problem with the kids on the show. I like to see the chefs interacting with their family. That's real reality TV.

                  2. re: Miss Needle
                    iL Divo May 21, 2012 06:41 PM

                    "I'm also not a fan of Bayless's daughter and Jacque Pepin's daughter on TV. I really don't think they add anything to the show."

                    Agree. Plus I want to watch them do their thing which they are both highly acclaimed for. If I want to watch a Father/Daughter show I'll turn on reruns of •Father Knows Best• as at least that was entertaining.

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                    pisang goreng Apr 22, 2009 12:33 PM

                    I'm sorry to have to agree with you. Yes, his daughter does ..... irritate me (and Mr. PG). I feel the same way about Jacques Pepin's daughter Claudine and sometimes Lidia Bastianich's daughter too. I have seen them both become whiny when even slightly corrected by their chef-parent and it's embarrassing to watch, frankly. Bayless's daughter, Lainie, doesn't quite do that but she's just a little bit too "ON" and the show is about Rick's FOOD, not her.

                    I think it's always the case that one thinks their kids are much cuter than others think they are and that may be why the kids don't translate so well onto their parents' shows. Paula Deen's sons also come to mind....

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                      PattiCakes Apr 22, 2009 01:12 PM

                      Not that it's a high-brow show, but I think "At Home with the Neeley's" uses the children well. They are brought in for short short segments when it's to demonstrate the family togetherness or to show that a particular dish can be made with kids, but they are not an integral part of the show. The show itself is carried by professionals who know how to relate to the camera and their audience, and know how to showcase the food.

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                        pisang goreng Apr 22, 2009 01:56 PM

                        Haven't seen that show but it sounds like it's a good way of integrating the kids.

                        I meant to add earlier that Claudine Pepin is much better than she used to be. Before she was very sensitive to the slightest comment from Jacques. Now she's more comfortable on camera and less sensitive.

                      2. re: pisang goreng
                        DiveFan May 3, 2009 04:34 PM

                        Some of you folks are just too sensitive!

                        I see no problem with Lanie on the show:
                        - She's interested, even enthusiastic about Mexican culture and speaks Spanish
                        - She looks comfortable with kitchen utensils (compared to most of her peers or, say, Sandra Lee)

                        OTOH it seems a bit contrived when Rick has a party with both adults AND teenagers. I can visualize the teen 'handlers' off camera with weapons....

                        I like his laid back personality But his clothes just crack me up. Reminds me of R&D PhD types I worked with 30 years ago.

                        1. re: DiveFan
                          paulj May 3, 2009 06:19 PM

                          Maybe the relatives spoil the illusion of having a one-on-one cooking lesson with a celebrity chef.

                        2. re: pisang goreng
                          iL Divo May 21, 2012 06:56 PM

                          I get no enjoyment out of PD's sons AT ALL.
                          To me they are filler. Plus one has his own show but before they did their road trip together. Gad why do we have to watch these sons have TV shows just because their mother is PD? I'm pretty much over her anyway with the current news she's chosen to hide from her viewers but that's OT, sorry.

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                          Sharuf Apr 23, 2009 03:23 AM

                          Haven't watched Baiyless in years, but when she was a pre-teen, daughter Lainie was adorable.

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                            Jimmy Buffet May 24, 2009 11:42 AM

                            I'd say "adorable" has evolved into "hot"...

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                              EWSflash Jan 24, 2010 07:47 AM

                              You're right about that, she's a very pretty young woman. I don't think her on-screen personality adds a thing to the show. Some, or rather most, personalities just don't translate well to film/video, the same way that so many great-looking people photograph horribly. I feel I can say that- I was a professional photographer for over 35 years, and it never ceases to amaze me how often people's appearances can change when viewed through a camera. It's the same with "moving pictures".

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                                paulj Jan 24, 2010 08:21 AM

                                In the latest episode that I saw, Mojo de Ajo from 2009, I thought she was more at ease before the camera.

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                                  Davwud Jan 24, 2010 11:24 AM

                                  I have a good looking friend. The camera LOVES her. She really looks good.

                                  For the most part, I find that people I've seen on film/TV look much better in person. Probably because I like girls more natural and that's how they come across in person.

                                  DT

                              2. re: Sharuf
                                iL Divo May 21, 2012 07:01 PM

                                I'm not saying she isn't cute or anything I just don't see the point of her being on. What does her presence bring to the show?
                                FCOL can RB not carry his own show?

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                                  EWSflash May 27, 2012 05:12 PM

                                  Agree completely

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                                SusanB Apr 24, 2009 12:27 PM

                                I love Mexico One Plate at a Time and I don't mind the daughter at all.

                                Re Jacques Pepin's daughter - no idea, I don't think I've ever seen his show.

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                                  dolly52 May 3, 2009 12:37 PM

                                  Maybe he is preparing her to takeover the business, I don't think Lanie fits the bill, maybe she will find a boyfriend or husband that will do better.

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                                    Agent Orange May 6, 2009 02:15 PM

                                    paulj may be on to something. When I'm watching a cooking show hosted by a chef I admire and want to learn from, I don't need any klutzy, awkward teenagers getting in the way. Just me and Rick baby.

                                    But really, her part of the show seems much more scripted and forced. Although Rick has his own... uniqueness, he at least seems comfortable in front of the camera. Why do we need a "storyline"? How about you just share some of your favorite recipes with us without us having to meet your daughter, neighbors, or hired friends?

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                                    1. re: Agent Orange
                                      paulj May 6, 2009 03:03 PM

                                      Alton has the storyline with relatives and friends. Except those roles are played by actors (with the notable except of W).

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                                        kmcarr May 6, 2009 08:29 PM

                                        Except on his biscuit episode. That was his real grandmother, Ma-Mae.

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                                          Davwud Jul 7, 2009 09:51 AM

                                          W is an actress. Ya, she's his chiropractor but the fact that she plays a woman who works in a kitchen supply store makes her an actress.

                                          DT

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                                            Divamac Jan 24, 2010 10:30 AM

                                            AB's daughter Zoey has been on "Good Eats" occasionally. Most recently she played the granddaughter to "old" Alton on the sustainability episode "Once and Future Fish".

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                                            fern Jul 6, 2009 12:19 AM

                                            One I enjoy watching is Ming's mother. Aside from her critical mother pokes at him, she does a nice job and just teaches a recipe. It always seems natural to me.

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                                              EWSflash Jan 24, 2010 07:49 AM

                                              Oh yeah, she's a mean little woman to her son Ming but she's very educational and entertaining.

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                                                archstreet May 15, 2010 10:01 AM

                                                Ming's mother is adorable!

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                                                iL Divo May 21, 2012 07:08 PM

                                                MT + his show both elude my interest thus far.

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                                              theuninvitedguest May 12, 2009 10:55 AM

                                              My parents and I talk about this every time there is an episode on with her. As you said, she seems to be a very friendly, intelligent young woman, but not everyone has good camera presence. The way her and Rick carry on conversations on the show always seems very overacted and stilted. They don't speak naturally. It's almost to the point where we think about turning it off when she is on.

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                                                EWSflash May 24, 2009 01:46 PM

                                                I believe you've hit precisely on the source of my discomfort. Stilted, overacted, mysentimens exactly. Not saying I don't lke her as a person (ecause I have no idea), but I will say she does nothing for the show except to throw in a tinny annoying edge, IMO

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                                                  CucumberBoy May 27, 2009 02:55 PM

                                                  Gotta say, I find Rick Bayless' "new look" to be discomforting, forced, and stilted. A few years ago, he dressed like a normal geek; the last couple of seasons, he's had his hairstyle changed to a much "hipper" look and what's with those silly t-shirts? He looks like a mid-life crisis in progress.

                                                  Still, I'd eat his nopales in a minute.

                                                  1. re: CucumberBoy
                                                    EWSflash Jan 24, 2010 07:54 AM

                                                    Being a older broad who doesn't usually dress in an age-appropriate way, I say "Harrumph". I think he's quite well-dressed, he shows a sense of "don't take life too seriously" in his dress.

                                                    But he should either dye his facial hair too or quit dying his hair. or even them both out somehow- lowlights? It makes his face look deformed, and I have a high-def TV. That's my only other complaint about the Bayless Family show.

                                                    I'm glad his wife started showing up in a few episodes, too.

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                                                      Davwud Jan 24, 2010 11:25 AM

                                                      I didn't notice.

                                                      DT

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                                                  ferfin Jul 5, 2009 11:22 PM

                                                  I totally agree that Lanie hinders the show. Hopefully her cooking is better than her acting.

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                                                    tofuburrito Jul 6, 2009 07:32 AM

                                                    I agree with most; the Lanie/Rick exchanges are way over-the-top, it's hard to believe they can deliver their lines with a straight face. It doesn't keep me from watching the show though and I would love to be on the list of people who receive invitations to the Bayless parties.
                                                    I also like Ming's mom & dad.

                                                  2. Davwud Jul 7, 2009 09:53 AM

                                                    I don't mind the part of Lanie. I think she's good for the show in the over all. She's knowledgeable and knows her way around a kitchen.

                                                    The problem I have is her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Very annoying.

                                                    DT

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                                                      JCap Jul 7, 2009 06:57 PM

                                                      It's campy, fine by me. And the food, for the vast majority, looks terrific.

                                                      1. DiveFan Jan 24, 2010 05:01 PM

                                                        Now that this topic has been reawakened.....

                                                        The Live Well channel http://www.livewellhd.com/ (ABC OTA second stream) seems to run older episodes every day at midnight and 6am.

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                                                          lukeinva Mar 5, 2010 10:38 AM

                                                          No problem with Lanie. She is cute, and bright and does have a clue.

                                                          However, as other have mentioned Claudine Pepin is an utter klutz, and clueless as a bag of broccoli. She seems afraid of her father which makes me think he has been mean to her in the past. She will add [some ingredient] and her father will chastise her and scold her and tell her she added too much or at the wrong time. She will take a taste with a spoon and then reuse the same spoon for something else. She is genuinely stupid.

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                                                            dolly52 Mar 7, 2010 05:02 PM

                                                            Dang, you are mean, I don't think I have ever seen her father chastise her or her use the same spoon.

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                                                              EWSflash May 14, 2010 09:22 PM

                                                              neither have I

                                                            2. re: lukeinva
                                                              paulj Mar 8, 2010 09:21 AM

                                                              This NYTimes article about Claudine on the occasion of her 2003 wedding to Rolland Wesen may put her 'kitchen skills' in another light. She appears to have learned more about eating than cooking from her father.
                                                              http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/30/fas...

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                                                                EWSflash May 27, 2012 05:17 PM

                                                                What a nice story!

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                                                              silence9 Mar 9, 2010 03:01 PM

                                                              When Rick and his daughter are on location somewhere in Mexico, amid colorful and tantalizing local markets and dreamy seashores, it always bumps me that he isn't hanging out with Mrs. Bayless there instead (or more often), and transforming the spicy foods into spicy moods. I felt the same with the Frugal Gourmet/Jeff Smith, as he toured Europe with assistant Craig far more often (on camera, at least) than with his, um, wife. Someone upthread mentioned Rick's idiosyncratic delivery of his lines, which seem to carry alot of inuendo and verbal nudge-nudge/wink-winks, and I think such delivery is more appropriate to his spouse, who appears to be a sophisticated and alluring person in her own right. In other words, if I wanna see Rick slurping sensual regional seafoods and raising a bawdy/saucy eyebrow to the camera when south-of-the-border, have that charming wife by his side; even better, toward a local hottie/guide who will let him flirt just a bit without daughter looking on. Go Rick!

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                                                              1. re: silence9
                                                                Davwud Mar 9, 2010 03:14 PM

                                                                Me and Mrs. Sippi believe that for the most part, she's not interested in being on camera.

                                                                DT

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                                                                tvfoodcritic Mar 25, 2010 10:02 PM

                                                                Do not feel bad. Lanie's chirpy persona comes across as entirely plastic and acted. Rick's creepy slow talking presentation is off putting enough, but that alone does not deter me from watching what is otherwise a well-produced and extremely informative show on the fascinating variety of Mexican food. It's Lanie's uber-creepy flirtatious delivery of her lines when she's on screen with her father that makes me turn the channel.

                                                                With the Pepins, there is at least a genuine rapport between them. When Claudine makes a mistake, Jacques corrects her in a good natured way and she takes it with a sense of humor. And she doesn't seem like she's reading lines after snorting a line and trying to seduce her dad.

                                                                1. buttertart May 13, 2010 07:41 AM

                                                                  I've been watching the new series recently, and loving it. He's really toned down the forcedness of his delivery and seems much more natural. He's got that sexy midwestern professorial thing going on (which I have a weakness for anyway) and is obviously very in shape. Looks great in a T-shirt and even better in a suit. The recipes are very appealing and well-presented. It seems the daughter isn't in the show (or at least as much) and Mrs B was in one, in a nice little "date night" sequence. Bravo Mr B, not only is Topo one of my favorite restaurants of all time, your show is a lot of fun. Can't wait for the new cookbook to come out.

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                                                                    DiningDiva May 14, 2010 11:17 PM

                                                                    "and is obviously very in shape. Looks great in a T-shirt and even better in a suit."

                                                                    True story...several years ago I did a culinary trip to Oaxaca sponsored by the CIA-Greystone which featured a week cooking with Rick Bayless. We were lodged in the El Camino Real hotel. One morning I went down for the breakfast buffet for which the El Camino is well known. To get to the buffet I had to pass by Rick's room. On the way back from breakfast, as I passed his room he was standing the door way signing for a delivery of ingredients that had just been delivered...dressed only in jeans.

                                                                    Definitely an OMG moment, not to mention a little bit TMI. I hadn't exactly signed up to see a celebrity chef partially clad and I had to be careful to be discrete and not stare (okay, not stare too much, it was hard not to). I'm here to tell you, the man was BUFF, surprisingly so. I can also tell you that RB and I were born the same year, and while I'm in pretty good shape as well, I am definitely not that buff. He'd been doing yoga for about a year or more at that time so clearly, it was workin' for him.

                                                                    He works at filling out that T-shirt ;-D

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                                                                      buttertart May 16, 2010 07:12 AM

                                                                      That must have been a memorable and fun trip, in every way! I really have seen an improvement in this show from earlier shows of his, he seems much more relaxed. We met him once extremely briefly at Topo and his demeanor was much MUCH more reserved than he was I think forced to be on the earlier shows. The daughter thing I can do without but I think perhaps it's she and not Mrs B because Mrs B may not be comfortable on camera (although they looked very charming together in the "date night"sequence). For that matter Mrs Pépin seemed extremely uncomfortable on the Cooking with Claudine episode in which she appeared. Just give me RB alone and relaxed and I'll be a dedicated viewer.

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                                                                        DiningDiva May 16, 2010 08:48 PM

                                                                        What you experienced on you trip to Topol is probably closer to how he is in real life. MOPaT isn't always shown in my area, but when it is, I have often found it hard to watch. In some of the earlier shows he was way over the to gushy and it was just too much. A show I caught last year was much toned down.

                                                                        In person he's really nice and much more low key. And above all, he is a PHENOMENAL teacher. His passion for his subject matter is palpable and infectious

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                                                                          buttertart May 17, 2010 07:14 AM

                                                                          I'm sure that's the case - the over-expressive style was I'm sure forced on him when the shows were started. I am glad the presentation has been toned down. Classy guy and wonderful restaurants/cookbooks. I can imagine he would be a wonderful teacher.

                                                                  2. chowow May 14, 2010 12:33 PM

                                                                    I agree that she's totally annoying. I feel bad saying that, but I actually have to close my eyes when she's on. The next time you watch an episode, pay attention to her eyes and facial expressions while Rick is talking. I guarantee it'll drive you crazy!

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                                                                      EWSflash May 14, 2010 09:26 PM

                                                                      I feel vindicated.

                                                                    2. kaysyrahsyrah May 15, 2010 04:01 PM

                                                                      Gotta hand it to TV Food Network for upping the game 15 years ago. For the most part, TVFN refrains from ridiculous show formats of old -- which is what One Plate at a Time is.

                                                                      1. Justpaula May 16, 2010 07:43 PM

                                                                        I don't pay too much attention to this show while my husband is watching it, but he has a very severe reaction to the daughter. I swear that my husband is a very non-violent human being, but he has actually said that every time she talks he wants to punch her in the face. Last week or the week before, he got my attention to watch a a few minutes of the show so I could check her out and I just think she is plain weird...and her overacting would be too much even for a children's show.

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                                                                          linus May 17, 2010 07:40 AM

                                                                          maybe your husband should switch to decaf.

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                                                                            paulj May 17, 2010 09:30 AM

                                                                            or allowed to use the remote. :)

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                                                                            EWSflash May 28, 2010 04:01 PM

                                                                            now I feel truly vindicated!

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                                                                              karenfinan May 29, 2010 05:13 PM

                                                                              you know, she is just a teenager, and I am a little repulsed by the hostility shown towards her. So she is not polished, well ok. So you don't think she adds much to the program, ok. But shees Louise, would you talk this way about the daughter of some one you know? I really really really don't understand the hostility. Perhaps focusing on a real issue, or real injustice is in order, rather than all this hostility to a chef's daughter on a public tv show.

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                                                                                silence9 Jun 1, 2010 10:59 AM

                                                                                You state: " But shees Louise, would you talk this way about the daughter of some one you know?". Well, most parents with teenagers do not put them in the public limelight where criticism (constructive or otherwise) by potentially millions of viewers is possible. If am a reknown conductor on the classical music scene and I insist, performance after performance, on devoting a segment of every concert to my teenage daughter to play/brutalize the tune 'Chopsticks' on the a 12 foot/$100,000 Bosendorfer concert grand piano (and have her mug for the crowd and recount bad puns during said perfomance), I think the expectation of a wide range of criticism might be forthcoming... And are you truly calling for anyone reading/posting on a forum board titled "Food Media and News" to direct their attention (while on said board) soley to the injustices of society? That's like writing to the ACLU and asking them for their favorite episode of Iron Chef. Apples and Ordinances...

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                                                                                  DiningDiva Jun 1, 2010 11:21 AM

                                                                                  "If am a reknown conductor on the classical music scene and I insist, performance after performance, on devoting a segment of every concert to my teenage daughter to play/brutalize the tune 'Chopsticks' on the a 12 foot/$100,000 Bosendorfer concert grand piano (and have her mug for the crowd and recount bad puns during said perfomance), I think the expectation of a wide range of criticism might be forthcoming... "

                                                                                  That is one of the funniest yet most apt descriptions I've read on this thread. Good analogy

                                                                                  Personally, I'm kind of neutral on the subject of whether his daughter should be on the show or not. Yeah, there are some segments in which she is definitely annoying and others not so much.

                                                                                  However, the young woman in question is now in college and living away from home. I suspect that may decrease the number of appearances she makes on the show.

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                                                                                    karenfinan Jun 1, 2010 05:35 PM

                                                                                    no silence 9, I am saying that the criticism is meanspirited, and over the top. One commentor accused her of snorting lines ( of drugs ) and trying to seduce her father. Most of the criticisms didn't go that far, but they seemed excessively aggresive given we are talking about a pretty low budget public tv show about cooking Mexican food. I think it is all too easy to be nasty and snarky and why exactly?

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                                                                                      paulj Jun 1, 2010 06:02 PM

                                                                                      Also the 'story line' behind most of the times when she is participating, is preparation for a dinner party at their home. The set appears to be, maybe actually is, Rick's home. There are references to her Quinceniera, Latin style 15 yr old coming-out party. Some of the meals are informal back yard events.

                                                                                      The comparison to a child playing chopsticks at a concert might apply if Rick had let her prepare one of the dishes when he was ICA challenger, but makes little sense with an instructional cooking show like this. I watch this sort of thing to learn about Mexican food and cooking, not for serious entertainment.

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                                                                                        bear Jun 1, 2010 06:17 PM

                                                                                        Couldn't agree more, karenf and paulj. She's a lovely, bright young woman. The show can seem a bit too scripted at times, but Rick is an excellent teacher, and Lanie's presence allows him to verbalize some helpful tips.

                                                                                        She may not be everyone's cup of tea and some people might wish she weren't part of the show, which is a legitimate criticism, but hurtful, personal attacks don't help anyone.

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                                                                                          silence9 Jun 1, 2010 07:09 PM

                                                                                          I'm sure Rick and his family are fine human beings and are deserving of much respect for their ongoing successful efforts to make mexican cuisine fun and accessible. And for all I know, maybe they have a Bosendorfer and can play it exceedingly well. I recant my prior heresy. Mea culpa. Pax...

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                                                                                    gloriousfood May 28, 2010 04:19 PM

                                                                                    I think there should be a moratorium on having your husband, wife, grandkids, children, friends, etc., on any cooking show. Chefs, I. Don't. Care. About. Your. Family. And. Friends.

                                                                                    Though I must say that I like Lidia's mother b/c she doesn't say much and her primary purpose seems to be to wait for Lidia to finish up with the dish already so she can start eating!

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                                                                                      Sharuf May 28, 2010 11:35 PM

                                                                                      Padding the payroll with family and friends is one of the perks of having your own show, isn't it?

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                                                                                        Pizza Lover May 29, 2010 07:07 AM

                                                                                        And it's indicative of the total lack of creativity of cooking shows these days.

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                                                                                          paulj May 29, 2010 08:38 AM

                                                                                          On CreateTV no less! Thankgoodness Foodnetwork still uses professional models as sidekicks. :) Well, not always. Alton enlists friends and chiropractor.

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                                                                                      thecondor1 Jun 2, 2010 02:57 PM

                                                                                      I humbly disagree, I think Lainie, his daughter, is charming, smart and at 15, quite an accomplished linguist and 'cook's helper'.
                                                                                      I also think it adds a little variety to Rick's strange vocal delivery.
                                                                                      He sometimes sounds like the Travel guy "Wolfe" and his BMW ads.
                                                                                      However I do agree that Claudia and Jacques daughters can be annoying.

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                                                                                        silence9 Jun 3, 2010 01:37 PM

                                                                                        Hi condor1. Are you a time-traveller visiting us here in the future (2010)? I believe Lanie is 18 now, here in 2010 :-) And about that time machine of yours, may I please borrow and go back to 2007 and un-eat that Crunch Wrap Supreme from Taco Bell? Thanks!

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                                                                                          hueyishere Jun 8, 2010 04:31 PM

                                                                                          Sorry Condor1, I disagree, she is so annoying facial expressions, eye movements and all, she doesn't do much cooking so it can't be that she helps him but I switch channels when she is on and it seems to be more and more often than not.

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                                                                                          Parrotgal Jun 2, 2010 03:14 PM

                                                                                          There are some local companies that advertise on local TV and always involve their (untalented, unattractive) family members--some I've seen grow up before my eyes! And they seem completely unaware that they're not really contributing, and in some cases, are alienating the public. That's how I feel about families on cooking shows. Lanie is certainly attractive, and I was impressed to see her ordering in apparently perfect Spanish, but I just think someone who is not the chef and really has nothing to contribute, well, has nothing to contribute! Even if you really, really like someone, that doesn't mean they're going to be good on TV.

                                                                                          I'm sure Claudine is a lovely person, but I wince when I realize she's going to be on an episode. Jacques is so very charming, and she just doesn't have that TV thing going on.

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                                                                                            CucumberBoy Jun 9, 2010 04:22 PM

                                                                                            I like it when Jacques chastises Claudine on-camera; it's like she's 12 years old again getting a spanking over Dad's bended knee -- and enjoying it.

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                                                                                            dolly52 Aug 4, 2010 12:53 PM

                                                                                            Lanie is making more appearances on his PBS show, I guess she is following in his footsteps, I just hope that she improves as time goes by.

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                                                                                              Sharuf Aug 5, 2010 12:54 AM

                                                                                              One of the perks of having your own show is that you get to put family and friends on the payroll.

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                                                                                                CTMEDTECH Oct 29, 2010 11:11 PM

                                                                                                I know you commented on this quite some time ago but I couldn't help replying. I FEEL THE SAME WAY!! I love watching the cooking shows and Im not sure who is worse, Rick Bayless's daughter or Jacque Pepin's daughter. They both are absolutely clueless as to what is going on. What were the producers thinking having them on their shows? It certainly didn't heighten ratings.

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                                                                                                  soyarra Nov 4, 2011 08:14 PM

                                                                                                  I'm surprised no one's mentioned Joe Bastianich on the various Lidia Bastianich shows. I think he's a great wine expert and restauranteur, but what a morose stiff on camera! Her daughter Tania is much looser and more natural, and of course her mother and grandchildren are delightful. I don't know - I think just because the parents love their children is no real reason to foist them on the viewing public, and as Joe always looks horribly uncomfortable on his mom's shows, perhaps that would be easier on the children, too.

                                                                                                  I mean, not everyone is Jamie or Bobby Dean, you know. ;)

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                                                                                                    paulj Nov 4, 2011 08:34 PM

                                                                                                    Lidia isn't that great on the camera either. Why don't they replace both the cooks and their side kicks with real actors? They've been doing voice overs in movies since Singing in the Rain. Why not 'cook-overs'? :)

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                                                                                                      CTMEDTECH Nov 7, 2011 07:41 PM

                                                                                                      Im with you re: Lidia's son Joe....I find him to be arrogant and cocky but love Lidia...I dont think its always about being able to act...I think Lidia is as down to earth as they come. Rick Bayless's daughter is something to be desired....Watching father/daughter trio is strange...you would think the two were married. It just doesnt work

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                                                                                                  bje333 Dec 18, 2010 09:31 AM

                                                                                                  Man oh Man!! Do I agree! His daughter is so annoying that most of the time I don't watch his shows when I see that she's on. Can she not get a job on her own and leave our shows alone??!!

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                                                                                                    MrBook Oct 18, 2011 01:08 PM

                                                                                                    Sorry to necropost this thread, but, well, I just got here.

                                                                                                    I agree that Lanie being on the show does not work. She's nice to look at and seems to know food, but the interaction between them drops like a rock every time she's on. Sooooo artificial and corny, and it often has a strange vibe to it because there's all this interaction between dad and daughter, but the mom rarely appears on the show, so there are exchanges between them (I tend to assume adapted from real exchanges between Rick and the missus) that seem too couple-like, and it's frankly creepy as hell.

                                                                                                    Plus, the old formula for the show works so perfectly that adding the Lanie element screws up the balance. When it's just Rick solo, doing his slow, dreamy narration, interacting with chefs and food cart vendors in Mexico, and making a meal with four ingredients in his own kitchen that looks better than anything you’ve ever eaten, there’s something almost magical about it. It makes you want to make a Mexican feast for all your friends and have a big blowout fiesta, or chill on a hammock on the beach with a michelada. I agree that his style is an acquired taste, but once you get it, it really works. Having Lanie on there changes the dynamic and almost completely kills that evocative quality the show has at its best. Even if they could have her do her own segment and isolate her charmingly spazzy awkwardness, that would work better than the frequently cringeworthy interactions with Rick.

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                                                                                                      DiningDiva Oct 18, 2011 03:12 PM

                                                                                                      The parts with Lanie didn't used to bother me, I just kind of ignored them. They weren't too large, nor was she featured trying to teach us a dish.

                                                                                                      Fast forward to the new season on Baja California. I've now watched 3 epsiodes. They are all really great UNTIL they get to the part where he cooks at home. Lanie has been prominently featured in all of them so far and they are not enjoyable. There is a jarring disconnect between what we've just been watching and a 20 year old in a kitchen talking about making a dish and tyring to demonstrate. Actually, I find that with this season I am not enjoying any of the at home in Chicago segments of the new season regardless of who's doing teh cooking. Baja is so fascinatingand the food they've been showing so delicious looking that I find myself looking for more of the Baja footage and less of the cooking at home footage. And, yes, I agree there is something awkward and creepy about the interaction between the two of them.

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                                                                                                        kcjktc May 21, 2012 02:06 PM

                                                                                                        me too, so late after the discussion. I have been bothered by this for so long and it's the first time I've found that someone else thinks the onscreen relationship of Rick Bayless and his daughter a bit uncomfortable. I really like Rick (his delivery too) but the daughter was always so suggestive in her body language that I assumed it was his girlfriend. When I realized it was his daughter it creeped me out. Maybe just a case of a pretty young girl realizing, unconsciously, how powerful her body can be. No disrespect intended to anyone, but I found that element of his show really hard to watch.

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                                                                                                        dolly52 May 26, 2012 07:09 PM

                                                                                                        I hate to watch them both together, I am a pretty clean (sheltered) type person but their togetherness makes me sick. It is like watching a dirty old man cooking & flirting with his young girlfriend. I don't like it.

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                                                                                                          EWSflash May 27, 2012 05:22 PM

                                                                                                          Like so many have said here, what's natural and real in real life doesn't always translate well to television or other medium.

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                                                                                                            dolly52 May 27, 2012 09:20 PM

                                                                                                            I like watching Mexico but really need to stop & I really don't think nothing kinky is going on but I just cant watch. Oh well.

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                                                                                                          Beach Chick May 27, 2013 10:32 PM

                                                                                                          Rick's daughter puts the creep in creepy.
                                                                                                          I need a shower after watching them.
                                                                                                          Horrid vibe..

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                                                                                                            linus May 28, 2013 07:32 AM

                                                                                                            could you give an example of some behaviour by rick's daughter you would describe as "creepy"?

                                                                                                            thanks.

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                                                                                                              Beach Chick May 28, 2013 08:06 AM

                                                                                                              Since this post has 100 replies...approximately 90% all replies state the 'creepy' factor or similar 'ick factor' from his daughter, I googled to see if others felt the same and here is a website that delves into what I am talking about.

                                                                                                              www.youjustmademylist.com/?p=6007

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                                                                                                                donovt May 28, 2013 09:25 AM

                                                                                                                I just read every single reply and counted only nine that referenced it being creepy or anything similar. So, that would be 9%, not 90%. And regarding the link, am I really the only person who gets that when she said "hot" she was talking about the fire pit?

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                                                                                                                  Beach Chick May 28, 2013 09:43 AM

                                                                                                                  Numbers are way higher and it goes way beyond the 'hot' on the fire pit..
                                                                                                                  Maybe you should read the comments from the Joanne Weir post.
                                                                                                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/903119

                                                                                                                  You are in the minority..do you want stats on that as well?

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                                                                                                                    donovt May 28, 2013 10:07 AM

                                                                                                                    Just read that thread, there were two references to it there. Ok, so that makes a total of 11. What "numbers" are you referring to? How am I in a minority?

                                                                                                                    By the way, I haven't even expressed an opinion on whether or not I get a creepy vibe from them. Just saying that nine comments out of 100 do not a majority make.

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                                                                                                                      Davwud May 28, 2013 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                      If you don't find it weird or creepy or whatever that's great. Good for you because for a few/some/a lot of us it ruins what would otherwise be a great program.

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                                                                                                                        linus May 28, 2013 03:17 PM

                                                                                                                        and yet, no matter how politely i ask, no one seems to be able to give an example of behaviour they find "weird" or "creepy," or explain why that behaviour is creepy.

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                                                                                                                          Davwud May 28, 2013 03:50 PM

                                                                                                                          I really couldn't put my finger on any one thing. It's just weird. I have no way of explaining it better but don't go looking. You're better off not finding it that way.

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                                                                                                                      linus May 28, 2013 03:18 PM

                                                                                                                      surely you are not stating the majority of people who watch the program find her "creepy"?
                                                                                                                      on what is this based?

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                                                                                                                        peterjhpark Oct 13, 2013 04:08 PM

                                                                                                                        Her voice, obnoxiousness, and her replies always being overly enthusiastic. She tries too hard and it really kills the vibe her father creates with his charm. Does that sufficiently answer your question?

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                                                                                                                          paulj Oct 13, 2013 04:11 PM

                                                                                                                          No. Have you seen them on the latest Oaxaca series?

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                                                                                                                            linus Oct 14, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                            it doesn't answer it at all, actually.

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                                                                                                                      sockii Oct 14, 2013 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                      I googled Lanie Bayless and this clip came up on the first page of results (titled "Creeeepy Rick Bayless" - and yeah, that's about my reaction by the end...)

                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W18-05...

                                                                                                                2. juliejulez May 28, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                                                                                  I've only started watching the show recently, because of the COTM. I record it as it comes on in the middle of night. I've watched 2 episodes and there are 3 sitting on my DVR. I'm not sure I'll watch them or continue to record them. Why? His daughter annoys the living heck out of me. Like others mentioned, she's too enthusiastic and fake. Reminds me of how girls act in pageants.

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                                                                                                                    paulj May 28, 2013 10:59 AM

                                                                                                                    Is she on the latest shows, the ones focusing on Baja?

                                                                                                                    She started to appear around age 15. I remember talk of her 'quinceniera', Mexican style 'coming out'. Now she's in her 20s.

                                                                                                                    http://www.createtv.com/CreateProgram...
                                                                                                                    In this list of episodes I see her name frequently in the 700s, but not in the 800s.

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                                                                                                                      DiningDiva May 28, 2013 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                      Yes, she was in some of the Baja episodes and it was a jarring transition from idyllic Baja to his kitchen with his daughter. She isn't in all the Baja episodes, perhaps 45-50% of them.

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                                                                                                                        linus May 28, 2013 03:19 PM

                                                                                                                        on many of the bayless programs, he cuts from a location in mexico to his home kitchen.

                                                                                                                        what makes cutting from baja, and/or the presence of his daughter, particularly jarring?

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                                                                                                                          DiningDiva May 28, 2013 05:04 PM

                                                                                                                          Easy...

                                                                                                                          1. I spend a lot of time in Baja. Many of the places I know were featured on various epsiodes. It's nice to see them get the recognition. I'd rather see them get continued exposure than Chicago

                                                                                                                          2. During many of the Baja episodes I was totally absorbed and engaged in what RB was doing on location. The sudden cut away broke the link for me and I found I wasn't nearly as interested in what he was doing in the kitchen as he was on location.

                                                                                                                          3. I thought the episodes where he cooked on location were more cohesive than the ones where they cut to his home because it carried the feeling of the episode through to the end.

                                                                                                                          4. I tuned in to see Baja, not his kitchen at home in Chicago

                                                                                                                          And, unless you live close to the border, or spend (or have spent) a reasonable amount of time in the Baja, this may not make sense to you. There is a particular charm and enchantment to Baja, by abruptly switching to Chicago it broke the spell that many episodes have.

                                                                                                                          I'm neutral on his daughter. I think she is stiff and forced on camera and their whole interaction seems forced and unnatural. Soemtimes the way they look or talk to each other seems more like husband and wife rather than father and daughter which is what I think many people are picking up on and think is creepy.

                                                                                                                          I'll conclude by saying - as I have posted multiple times on CH - I have had the opportunity to take classes with RB in Mexico, so my impressions are going to be filtered through a different lens.

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                                                                                                                            JonParker May 28, 2013 07:11 PM

                                                                                                                            I have to disagree with you on the transitions. I consider that key to the show -- Rick takes you to Mexico and shows how it's done there, then transitions to showing you how to recreate a similar dish in a home kitchen with ingredients that can be easily found in the US.

                                                                                                                            And as I said on the Weir thread, I like Lanie. I think she adds energy and brightness to the show, like lemon zest in a vinaigrette. My only issue is that Rick keeps giving her scut work.

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                                                                                                                              silence9 May 31, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                              After further consideration of this topic, I now believe the issue is less about Lanie and how she relates to RB, but more that it would seem that RB's actual wife is relegated to third-tier status and (perhaps by choice) keeps a very low profie on the show. Whereas Lanie is often seen traveling/eating/cooking/mugging for the camera with RB in Mexico and Chicago, RB's wife will usually be seen only in the last five minutes of an episode handing plates to the party/dinner guests, often silent and looking away from the camera. Maybe that's how they all like things, with a silly/vivacious daughter and a reliably staid wife keeping it real. Me, I just talk back to the TV and implore RB to shave that white goatee :-)

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                                                                                                                                paulj May 31, 2013 09:47 AM

                                                                                                                                Rick and Deann have been partners in the restaurant business from the start. Their first book is attributed to: "Rick Bayless with Deann Groen Bayless". All accounts of the restaurants mention both. But he has always been the public face. I recall reading that she's the expert at the business end. I think it was her parents who provided the initial loan.

                                                                                                                                For what it's worth, I've never seen Jacques Pipin's wife, though he and Claudine have talked about her favorite dishes.

                                                                                                                                People lament that reality shows have displaced instructional shows, but then they talk about shows like this with that same 'reality' mentality. Mexico One Plate at a Time is not a soap opera.

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                                                                                                                                  JonParker May 31, 2013 09:57 AM

                                                                                                                                  Thank you. I have also heard that Deann doesn't really care to be on camera that much. Lanie just got a degree in some sort of film and tv study -- I'm not sure what, but Rick tweeted that he was attending the premiere of her senior project.

                                                                                                                                  It really bothers me that so many people are willing to publicly criticize the relationship between a somewhat geeky teenage girl and her doting father. I just don't see how Bayless family dynamics are anyone's business but theirs.

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                                                                                                                                    silence9 May 31, 2013 11:29 AM

                                                                                                                                    I've seen Jacques Pepin's wife sit down (on the series just prior to the current one airing) with him to taste his food preparation and wine selection on more than one occassion, but certainly not often; the little grand daughter (who abruptly wipes her cheek any time Jacques affectionately gives her a peck on the cheek) makes more appearances than his wife. And If one looks up the word 'elegant' or 'sophisticated' in a dictionary, I wouldn't be surprised to see a photo of Pepin's wife. I reckon she has made a similar decision to RB's wife, regarding a low profile... As regards JonParker's comment about public interest in celebrity family dynamics, I suppose the moment the public viewership and a film crew is invited through the door to my home, interest in my home/family/lifestyle is to be expected. Its' not the papparazzi chasing me through my neighborhood...

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                                                                                                                                      kengk May 31, 2013 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                      Interest in, yes. Making ugly comments, not really appropriate to me.

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                                                                                                                                iL Divo May 31, 2013 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                I agree about 'being in the moment' while watching a show and then they cut to something else. not referring to his show but more in general-sorta 'kills the buzz' you could say.

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                                                                                                                                  paulj May 31, 2013 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                  Andres's Made in Spain makes a particularly big deal about 'flying' back and forth across the Atlantic, between his home and Spain.

                                                                                                                                  Kimchi Chronicles has both Korean and US kitchen segments.

                                                                                                                                  Mind of a Chef is all small segments.

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                                                                                                                        Westy May 29, 2013 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                        I have to say i do like (and own) the cookbook they wrote together.

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                                                                                                                          DiningDiva May 29, 2013 06:28 AM

                                                                                                                          I have it too and like it. It was a gift from a friend who knows both father and daughter; it was even autographed by both. . .Lol. I've cooked some from it; recipes are decent and they work

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                                                                                                                            Puffin3 Oct 14, 2013 06:32 AM

                                                                                                                            The last time I watched Michael Smith was when he used his 'precious' sons name in every second sentence. "Gabe" this and "Gabe" that. Sounds just like the type of parent who allows their kids to get away with anything (wouldn't want to 'break their spirit') they want then can't understand why the kid turned out to be a punk.
                                                                                                                            Anyway. MS has 'moved on' with his life. I'm sure he and 'ChasTITY' and 'Gabe' will be very happy.
                                                                                                                            Leave the GD kids at home! Everyone else does when they go to work.

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                                                                                                                              Davwud Oct 14, 2013 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                              Actually, I see this type of thing a fair bit.
                                                                                                                              "My daughter, who's my little miracle, blah, blah, blah."
                                                                                                                              "My son, my best friend, etc, etc, etc.

                                                                                                                              It's like people these days think loving their kid is a competition. "Oh ya, well you're kid may be your pride and joy but mine is my heart and soul."

                                                                                                                              We know you love your kid(s). You don't have to prove it every second.

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