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Apr 20, 2009 09:05 PM

Mexico One Plate at a Time

I feel bad about thinking this, and would never tell mr Bayless, because you just don't say those things to people about their children, but am I the only one that thinks his daughter is a big hindrancs to his show?
I've no doubt she's a lovely young woman with multiple talents, but she isn't good for the show, period. He has a weird enough affect (although I've grown to enjoy it) that he's the only odd delivery that the show needs.

Is it just me? My husband agrees with me, which gave me the courage to ask a bigger audience.

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  1. Not as big a hinderance as Jacques Pepin's daughter, Caludine was.

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    1. re: Kristine

      I'm not that bothered by RIck's daugher. But, I have to agree with Kristine about Claudine. She is such an utter klutz in the kitchen that it's hard to believe they share any gene's. I mean have you every seen her with a chef's knife? Stand back! Lidia's daughter is also featured a lot, but she seems to have at least an inkling of what to do in the kitchen. And I enjoy when she has Joe on.

      1. re: bnemes3343

        I also love it when she has her grandkids on.

        1. re: bnemes3343

          LIDIA and her daughter are fine by me as well, I'm not put off at all by her or her adorable mother. As much as I don't enjoy admitting this Joe to me is a handsome man who comes across (to me anyway and quite possibly I'm wrong) as being very full of himself. So I prefer to simply watch him from afar or on that MasterChef show where he's one of the judges.

          1. re: bnemes3343

            Lidia's daughter is all right, but I find Joe dour and self-important.

          2. re: Kristine

            "Not as big a hinderance as Jacques Pepin's daughter, Caludine was."

            ooooooo major BINGO!!!

            we all love our children duh but 'what' did Claudine have to offer at all in any sense?

          3. I'm also not a fan of Bayless's daughter and Jacque Pepin's daughter on TV. I really don't think they add anything to the show. For the longest time, before I realized that Claudine was Pepin's daughter, I thought she was an ex-student that Jacques had slept with and thought it was a big part of an elaborate blackmail scheme. In general, I'm not crazy about when these celebrities bring their family members on the set -- like Rachel Ray bringing in her husband on those travel shows. Why? To promote his band? So that she can keep an eye on him? There really is a reason why certain folks are on TV and most of us aren't. Aside from just pure cooking talent (or in the case of Rachel Ray, I should say hosting abilities), you need to have a certain personality (or at least be able to fake one) to be engaging on the small screen. These people are probably very nice in real life, but I just don't want to watch them on TV.

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            1. re: Miss Needle

              I met Claudine Pépin (she's charming) but the original premise with teaming up with her father was that she is/was a klutz in the kitchen and couldn't cook. "Cooking with…" and "Encore with Claudine" were based on the premise of teaching his kid not to poison the parents so in that context Claudine worked very well.

              Lanie Bayless on the other hand gives me hives. Especially the entire period where she walked around with a puppet (gee - obsess over Ed the Sock much?)

              1. re: wattacetti

                Oh my goodness. Glad I missed the puppet bit.

                Claudine doesn't bother me, but I thought she was his granddaughter,, because of something one of them said- got it wrong, apparently.

                1. re: EWSflash

                  In the series that is currently playing on CreateTV, there is mention of his granddaughter - Claudine's daughter, who is about 4 now. Jacques is a proud grandfather.

                  Of the two daughters, my impression is that Lanie is a better fit, especially on the episodes that center around a party at Rick's home.

                  But does it really matter whether the family members are TV pros or not? Maybe the sticky about 'less bashing' should be extended to family?

                  1. re: paulj

                    I love Rick Bayless' passion and knowledge of Mexican cuisine; his daughter, however, is like finding a hair in your guacamole, if you catch my drift.

                    Dr. Phil is the king of nepotism, hands down, but give Rick a few more years, maybe he can overtake him...


                    1. re: paulj

                      Thankk you for the granddaughter reference, I probably wasn't listening closely enough so I misunderstood what was being said about granddaughters.

                      1. re: paulj

                        I agree with paulj. There have been a ton of posts about how many of the food shows are deceptive or use slick personalities over substance. We rant about hosts that are not really "chefs", but are really entertainers dressed in chef's clothing, schooled in chef-speak. Maybe the better choice would be to compromise & limit the exposure of these not-so-TV-polished family members, using them as an accent rather than a premise for the show.

                        I haven't seen Bayless's daughter; Claudine doesn't really bother me. She's a bit stiff, but I think they have a nice relationship on camera. It's just not a "slick" show -- more old school basics than many of the newer shows.

                        1. re: paulj

                          I also have no problem with the kids on the show. I like to see the chefs interacting with their family. That's real reality TV.

                    2. re: Miss Needle

                      "I'm also not a fan of Bayless's daughter and Jacque Pepin's daughter on TV. I really don't think they add anything to the show."

                      Agree. Plus I want to watch them do their thing which they are both highly acclaimed for. If I want to watch a Father/Daughter show I'll turn on reruns of •Father Knows Best• as at least that was entertaining.

                    3. I'm sorry to have to agree with you. Yes, his daughter does ..... irritate me (and Mr. PG). I feel the same way about Jacques Pepin's daughter Claudine and sometimes Lidia Bastianich's daughter too. I have seen them both become whiny when even slightly corrected by their chef-parent and it's embarrassing to watch, frankly. Bayless's daughter, Lainie, doesn't quite do that but she's just a little bit too "ON" and the show is about Rick's FOOD, not her.

                      I think it's always the case that one thinks their kids are much cuter than others think they are and that may be why the kids don't translate so well onto their parents' shows. Paula Deen's sons also come to mind....

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                      1. re: pisang goreng

                        Not that it's a high-brow show, but I think "At Home with the Neeley's" uses the children well. They are brought in for short short segments when it's to demonstrate the family togetherness or to show that a particular dish can be made with kids, but they are not an integral part of the show. The show itself is carried by professionals who know how to relate to the camera and their audience, and know how to showcase the food.

                        1. re: PattiCakes

                          Haven't seen that show but it sounds like it's a good way of integrating the kids.

                          I meant to add earlier that Claudine Pepin is much better than she used to be. Before she was very sensitive to the slightest comment from Jacques. Now she's more comfortable on camera and less sensitive.

                        2. re: pisang goreng

                          Some of you folks are just too sensitive!

                          I see no problem with Lanie on the show:
                          - She's interested, even enthusiastic about Mexican culture and speaks Spanish
                          - She looks comfortable with kitchen utensils (compared to most of her peers or, say, Sandra Lee)

                          OTOH it seems a bit contrived when Rick has a party with both adults AND teenagers. I can visualize the teen 'handlers' off camera with weapons....

                          I like his laid back personality But his clothes just crack me up. Reminds me of R&D PhD types I worked with 30 years ago.

                          1. re: DiveFan

                            Maybe the relatives spoil the illusion of having a one-on-one cooking lesson with a celebrity chef.

                          2. re: pisang goreng

                            I get no enjoyment out of PD's sons AT ALL.
                            To me they are filler. Plus one has his own show but before they did their road trip together. Gad why do we have to watch these sons have TV shows just because their mother is PD? I'm pretty much over her anyway with the current news she's chosen to hide from her viewers but that's OT, sorry.

                          3. Haven't watched Baiyless in years, but when she was a pre-teen, daughter Lainie was adorable.

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                            1. re: Sharuf

                              I'd say "adorable" has evolved into "hot"...

                              1. re: Jimmy Buffet

                                You're right about that, she's a very pretty young woman. I don't think her on-screen personality adds a thing to the show. Some, or rather most, personalities just don't translate well to film/video, the same way that so many great-looking people photograph horribly. I feel I can say that- I was a professional photographer for over 35 years, and it never ceases to amaze me how often people's appearances can change when viewed through a camera. It's the same with "moving pictures".

                                1. re: EWSflash

                                  In the latest episode that I saw, Mojo de Ajo from 2009, I thought she was more at ease before the camera.

                                  1. re: EWSflash

                                    I have a good looking friend. The camera LOVES her. She really looks good.

                                    For the most part, I find that people I've seen on film/TV look much better in person. Probably because I like girls more natural and that's how they come across in person.


                                2. re: Sharuf

                                  I'm not saying she isn't cute or anything I just don't see the point of her being on. What does her presence bring to the show?
                                  FCOL can RB not carry his own show?

                                3. I love Mexico One Plate at a Time and I don't mind the daughter at all.

                                  Re Jacques Pepin's daughter - no idea, I don't think I've ever seen his show.