613667 Mon Apr 20 21:05:50 -0700 2009 31 33 Food Media and News 0 4613658 I feel bad about thinking this, and would never tell mr Bayless, because you just don't say those things to people about their children, but am I the only one that thinks his daughter is a big hindrancs to his show? I've no doubt she's a lovely young woman with multiple talents, but she isn't good for the show, period. He has a weird enough affect (although I've grown to enjoy it) that he's the only odd delivery that the show needs. Is it just me? My husband agrees with me, which gave me the courage to ask a bigger audience. Mon Apr 20 21:05:50 -0700 2009 105625 EWSflash 1 4615287 Not as big a hinderance as Jacques Pepin's daughter, Caludine was. Tue Apr 21 11:42:50 -0700 2009 4613658 12975 Kristine 2 4615578 I'm not that bothered by RIck's daugher. But, I have to agree with Kristine about Claudine. She is such an utter klutz in the kitchen that it's hard to believe they share any gene's. I mean have you every seen her with a chef's knife? Stand back! Lidia's daughter is also featured a lot, but she seems to have at least an inkling of what to do in the kitchen. And I enjoy when she has Joe on. Tue Apr 21 12:46:09 -0700 2009 4615287 124339 bnemes3343 1 4615562 I'm also not a fan of Bayless's daughter and Jacque Pepin's daughter on TV. I really don't think they add anything to the show. For the longest time, before I realized that Claudine was Pepin's daughter, I thought she was an ex-student that Jacques had slept with and thought it was a big part of an elaborate blackmail scheme. In general, I'm not crazy about when these celebrities bring their family members on the set -- like Rachel Ray bringing in her husband on those travel shows. Why? To promote his band? So that she can keep an eye on him? There really is a reason why certain folks are on TV and most of us aren't. Aside from just pure cooking talent (or in the case of Rachel Ray, I should say hosting abilities), you need to have a certain personality (or at least be able to fake one) to be engaging on the small screen. These people are probably very nice in real life, but I just don't want to watch them on TV. Tue Apr 21 12:41:02 -0700 2009 4613658 10763 Miss Needle 2 4615779 I met Claudine Pépin (she's charming) but the original premise with teaming up with her father was that she is/was a klutz in the kitchen and couldn't cook. "Cooking with…" and "Encore with Claudine" were based on the premise of teaching his kid not to poison the parents so in that context Claudine worked very well. Lanie Bayless on the other hand gives me hives. Especially the entire period where she walked around with a puppet (gee - obsess over Ed the Sock much?) Tue Apr 21 13:38:38 -0700 2009 4615562 196486 wattacetti 3 4615976 Oh my goodness. Glad I missed the puppet bit. Claudine doesn't bother me, but I thought she was his granddaughter,, because of something one of them said- got it wrong, apparently. Tue Apr 21 14:31:05 -0700 2009 4615779 105625 EWSflash 4 4616040 In the series that is currently playing on CreateTV, there is mention of his granddaughter - Claudine's daughter, who is about 4 now. Jacques is a proud grandfather. Of the two daughters, my impression is that Lanie is a better fit, especially on the episodes that center around a party at Rick's home. But does it really matter whether the family members are TV pros or not? Maybe the sticky about 'less bashing' should be extended to family? Tue Apr 21 14:44:30 -0700 2009 4615976 12139 paulj 5 4616333 I love Rick Bayless' passion and knowledge of Mexican cuisine; his daughter, however, is like finding a hair in your guacamole, if you catch my drift. Dr. Phil is the king of nepotism, hands down, but give Rick a few more years, maybe he can overtake him... -cb- Tue Apr 21 16:15:52 -0700 2009 4616040 113190 CucumberBoy 5 4616559 Thankk you for the granddaughter reference, I probably wasn't listening closely enough so I misunderstood what was being said about granddaughters. Tue Apr 21 17:19:41 -0700 2009 4616040 105625 EWSflash 5 4617374 I agree with paulj. There have been a ton of posts about how many of the food shows are deceptive or use slick personalities over substance. We rant about hosts that are not really "chefs", but are really entertainers dressed in chef's clothing, schooled in chef-speak. Maybe the better choice would be to compromise & limit the exposure of these not-so-TV-polished family members, using them as an accent rather than a premise for the show. I haven't seen Bayless's daughter; Claudine doesn't really bother me. She's a bit stiff, but I think they have a nice relationship on camera. It's just not a "slick" show -- more old school basics than many of the newer shows. Wed Apr 22 05:10:56 -0700 2009 4616040 90359 PattiCakes 5 4623157 I also have no problem with the kids on the show. I like to see the chefs interacting with their family. That's real reality TV. Thu Apr 23 15:31:11 -0700 2009 4616040 89493 scubadoo97 1 4618826 I'm sorry to have to agree with you. Yes, his daughter does ..... irritate me (and Mr. PG). I feel the same way about Jacques Pepin's daughter Claudine and sometimes Lidia Bastianich's daughter too. I have seen them both become whiny when even slightly corrected by their chef-parent and it's embarrassing to watch, frankly. Bayless's daughter, Lainie, doesn't quite do that but she's just a little bit too "ON" and the show is about Rick's FOOD, not her. I think it's always the case that one thinks their kids are much cuter than others think they are and that may be why the kids don't translate so well onto their parents' shows. Paula Deen's sons also come to mind.... Wed Apr 22 12:33:24 -0700 2009 4613658 66143 pisang goreng 2 4619015 Not that it's a high-brow show, but I think "At Home with the Neeley's" uses the children well. They are brought in for short short segments when it's to demonstrate the family togetherness or to show that a particular dish can be made with kids, but they are not an integral part of the show. The show itself is carried by professionals who know how to relate to the camera and their audience, and know how to showcase the food. Wed Apr 22 13:12:37 -0700 2009 4618826 90359 PattiCakes 3 4619210 Haven't seen that show but it sounds like it's a good way of integrating the kids. I meant to add earlier that Claudine Pepin is much better than she used to be. Before she was very sensitive to the slightest comment from Jacques. Now she's more comfortable on camera and less sensitive. Wed Apr 22 13:56:50 -0700 2009 4619015 66143 pisang goreng 2 4650885 Some of you folks are just too sensitive! I see no problem with Lanie on the show: - She's interested, even enthusiastic about Mexican culture and speaks Spanish - She looks comfortable with kitchen utensils (compared to most of her peers or, say, Sandra Lee) OTOH it seems a bit contrived when Rick has a party with both adults AND teenagers. I can visualize the teen 'handlers' off camera with weapons.... I like his laid back personality But his clothes just crack me up. Reminds me of R&D PhD types I worked with 30 years ago. Sun May 03 16:34:43 -0700 2009 4618826 23712 DiveFan 3 4651151 Maybe the relatives spoil the illusion of having a one-on-one cooking lesson with a celebrity chef. Sun May 03 18:19:38 -0700 2009 4650885 12139 paulj 1 4620701 Haven't watched Baiyless in years, but when she was a pre-teen, daughter Lainie was adorable. Thu Apr 23 03:23:34 -0700 2009 4613658 13619 Sharuf 2 4710921 I'd say "adorable" has evolved into "hot"... Sun May 24 11:42:09 -0700 2009 4620701 18981 Jimmy Buffet 1 4625624 I love Mexico One Plate at a Time and I don't mind the daughter at all. Re Jacques Pepin's daughter - no idea, I don't think I've ever seen his show. Fri Apr 24 12:27:57 -0700 2009 4613658 16039 SusanB 1 4650400 Maybe he is preparing her to takeover the business, I don't think Lanie fits the bill, maybe she will find a boyfriend or husband that will do better. Sun May 03 12:37:25 -0700 2009 4613658 223112 dolly52 1 4660175 paulj may be on to something. When I'm watching a cooking show hosted by a chef I admire and want to learn from, I don't need any klutzy, awkward teenagers getting in the way. Just me and Rick baby. But really, her part of the show seems much more scripted and forced. Although Rick has his own... uniqueness, he at least seems comfortable in front of the camera. Why do we need a "storyline"? How about you just share some of your favorite recipes with us without us having to meet your daughter, neighbors, or hired friends? Wed May 06 14:15:23 -0700 2009 4613658 106932 Agent Orange 2 4660356 Alton has the storyline with relatives and friends. Except those roles are played by actors (with the notable except of W). Wed May 06 15:03:38 -0700 2009 4660175 12139 paulj 3 4661308 Except on his biscuit episode. That was his real grandmother, Ma-Mae. Wed May 06 20:29:54 -0700 2009 4660356 161386 kmcarr 3 4836468 W is an actress. Ya, she's his chiropractor but the fact that she plays a woman who works in a kitchen supply store makes her an actress. DT Tue Jul 07 09:51:42 -0700 2009 4660356 11291 Davwud 2 4832321 One I enjoy watching is Ming's mother. Aside from her critical mother pokes at him, she does a nice job and just teaches a recipe. It always seems natural to me. Mon Jul 06 00:19:49 -0700 2009 4660175 127625 fern 1 4676983 My parents and I talk about this every time there is an episode on with her. As you said, she seems to be a very friendly, intelligent young woman, but not everyone has good camera presence. The way her and Rick carry on conversations on the show always seems very overacted and stilted. They don't speak naturally. It's almost to the point where we think about turning it off when she is on. Tue May 12 10:55:20 -0700 2009 4613658 50030 theuninvitedguest 2 4711122 I believe you've hit precisely on the source of my discomfort. Stilted, overacted, mysentimens exactly. Not saying I don't lke her as a person (ecause I have no idea), but I will say she does nothing for the show except to throw in a tinny annoying edge, IMO Sun May 24 13:46:08 -0700 2009 4676983 105625 EWSflash 3 4719853 Gotta say, I find Rick Bayless' "new look" to be discomforting, forced, and stilted. A few years ago, he dressed like a normal geek; the last couple of seasons, he's had his hairstyle changed to a much "hipper" look and what's with those silly t-shirts? He looks like a mid-life crisis in progress. Still, I'd eat his nopales in a minute. Wed May 27 14:55:52 -0700 2009 4711122 113190 CucumberBoy 1 4832289 I totally agree that Lanie hinders the show. Hopefully her cooking is better than her acting. Sun Jul 05 23:22:45 -0700 2009 4613658 1091186 ferfin 2 4832795 I agree with most; the Lanie/Rick exchanges are way over-the-top, it's hard to believe they can deliver their lines with a straight face. It doesn't keep me from watching the show though and I would love to be on the list of people who receive invitations to the Bayless parties. I also like Ming's mom & dad. Mon Jul 06 07:32:41 -0700 2009 4832289 163246 tofuburrito 1 4836476 I don't mind the part of Lanie. I think she's good for the show in the over all. She's knowledgeable and knows her way around a kitchen. The problem I have is her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Very annoying. DT Tue Jul 07 09:53:27 -0700 2009 4613658 11291 Davwud 1 4838064 It's campy, fine by me. And the food, for the vast majority, looks terrific. Tue Jul 07 18:57:09 -0700 2009 4613658 23695 JCap